ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 67

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As far as I know, we don't know for sure. But since they were one of (IMO) relatively few items taken from his house, I suspect the police strongly believe they are related to the crime. MOO
Or they didn't want to miss anything. I would err on getting too much stuff, rather than missing something important. This case is big, who would want to be holding the bag if they messed up, and BK got off on some arcane technicality?

BK has nothing to do all day, but look at the evidence against him, in minutiae. I bet he will be obsessed with minor details.
 
Do you think his defense attorney will advise him to plead out, rather than trying to mount a convoluted defense strategy?
I think this case will go to trial: it is so early in discovery that we have no idea what the prosecution has beyond that which was delineated in the Affidavit-- It also depends how strong the prosecution case is and we do not know if their case is weak or strong at this point. BK strikes me as a person who wants his day in court--- even if the prosecution case turns out to be strong, I believe he thinks he can impress a jury.
 
Are several of these media outlets being "willfully ignorant" or are they just flat out dumb when it comes to reading these documents?

So many of them reporting things that were "found" (i.e. shoes, computer information, etc.) when all the document says is that they were instructed to "look" for those items. As far as I can tell they took the computer to investigate, but no such confirmation on computer connections to the victims being verified exists in those documents.
The very long and detailed search warrant document includes detail of application for warrant where LE request and explain why they need to search for all the electronic data, physical evidnence etc etc. The media outlets that you infer have taken this amazingly detailed document that explains process and justification for the warrant and somehow read it as proof of some actual evidence that has already been found, instead of an explanation of what any potential seized items from the house, ie shoes, computers etc might produce in terms of evidence after testing and analysis, after specialist assistance and so forth. The items in return of service list have been seized and analysis of them (including electronics and receipts and hairs and bits of pillow) is underway. That's all we know. MOO
 
I don't suppose there's much harm in calling them other than occupying their time taking the call. Unless they are actively staking out a person as in this case, they will just make a note of such a report.

The bins are owned by the city. They are not your property. Once they are put on the street, they are on public property and nothing in them belongs to you any longer.

Anyone can go through your trash (when it is on the curb). They can add more trash to your bin, take possession of your discarded items etc. If your bin is full and there is room in a neighbor's, you can use theirs for your excess. I'd ask permission out of courtesy, but it's not necessary.

That's the whole reason police can go through trash and collect evidence without a warrant as they did in this case. The suspect must have been a poor student not to realize that.

I own my bin/trash can, I know that LE can take your trash, my point was a Neighbor putting their trash in my can is wrong and i would confront them about, Just so they know I saw them. That’s just me,
 
It is, assuming there was something of evidential value he put in his neighbours trash, he had been forensically aware on one hand… but the other, he put it in his NEIGHBOURS trash. I mean, does he really think that wouldn’t be traced back to him? Has he not considered LE would clock on that it was likely him? Considering he goes to uni 10 miles from the crime scene! I know he’s intelligent but Jesus, where’s his common sense?
IMO, i dont believe he was being surveilled. So his attempt to conceal his trash, by placing it in the neighbors, would not have occurred if he had known. So I believe he thought he was not going to be connected to that trash.
 
Ok, no offense to you, but I can't stand the NYP! I read the search warrant and it's news to me that LE found the shoes in BCK's apartment. Maybe I need to read it, again?

And the NYP saying LE found the shoes that match the FOOTPRINTS in the victims' house? Footprints??? Ugh. SHOEprints, not footprints. Big difference.

Lol, I can't even with the NYP! OK, rant over.
No, no shoes. Return of Service document. MOO. My link is too big to link again. It's on numerous of my posts in last hour or so or someone may just have a link to the Return of Service DOc.
 
If I saw someone put trash in my can idycall the police or that person’s significant other cause they are up to no good in my mind.

Jmo
How close are the houses? I don't buy his can was full so he went to the neighbors can. I'm sure they had more then 1 can and even if full, most people just rest the bag next to it until the next pick-up. It's just odd to me. JMO
 
I'm trying to remember from the affidavit if they said the dog was heard barking at 4:17am. One thought I had was, if there was a murder happening on the 3rd floor before then, why would the dog start barking at 4:17? It seems the dog would start barking when it either encountered BK or he heard or saw the attack. I don't think the dog would wait until after all the chaos was over on the 3rd floor and THEN start barking.

The affidavit does not clearly establish that the dog (Murphy) was barking and only states that 'a' dog was recorded barking.
 
Or they didn't want to miss anything. I would err on getting too much stuff, rather than missing something important. This case is big, who would want to be holding the bag if they messed up, and BK got off on some arcane technicality?

BK has nothing to do all day, but look at the evidence against him, in minutiae. I bet he will be obsessed with minor details.
Definitely, it just seems to me like they didn't take all that much evidence. Like it just mentions 2 receipts and a tag, not a whole bunch of receipts and papers and tags. This is all just my amateur impression though, I have no idea about evidence collection.
 
I was thinking that the trash he put in neighbors can was the rags/towels he used to clean the vehicle.



Bryan Kohberger, the suspect who is accused of murdering four University of Idaho students, was reportedly seen by law enforcement moving trash into neighbors' trash cans in the middle of the night and wearing gloves frequently while at his family's Pennsylvania home before his arrest.

Kohberger, 28, also "cleaned his car, inside and outside, not missing an inch" before being taken into custody, per CNN.

 
IMO, maybe BK snuck a load of laundry in at his apt after the murders and it’s still sitting in the dryer? Except for his socks. As we all know socks disappear in the dryer.

It's been confirmed that his apartment complex doesn't allow washers/dryers in the apartments. So, that would mean he took potentially bloody clothes to the laundry room, risking being seen by others, washed and left them to mold for 2 months. Or dried them and left them in the dryer for 2 months. If he was going to leave them in the laundry room, why not just ditch them when he ditched the knife?
 
RBBM
Finding info about the victims in his apartment is significant. Which victims & what kind of data compilations?

Sounds like clear evidence of PREMEDITATION to me!

I want to know more about this particular evidence.

JMO
BBM, AFAIK, no info about the victims and data compilations related to the victims has been released to the public. I'm assuming specialist and investigators are analysing what was seized under the search warrant at this time. The official document in question simply explains what LE was looking for under the search warrant and why. MOO
 
It's been confirmed that his apartment complex doesn't allow washers/dryers in the apartments. So, that would mean he took potentially bloody clothes to the laundry room, risking being seen by others, washed and left them to mold for 2 months. Or dried them and left them in the dryer for 2 months. If he was going to leave them in the laundry room, why not just ditch them when he ditched the knife?
Plus the concept you leave clothes undisturbed in an apartment complex laundry facility for 2 months doesn't compute. At all. JMO
 
Much of this language was new to me when this case first started and I thought circumstantial evidence was weakest. But after researching and learning, I now know the prosecution will feel much more confident going to court with a circumstantial case than they would with direct evidence because they can help the jury see the logic of it. If it’s direct evidence, it’s something that can be refuted or rebutted.
This case is a good example of why eyewitnesses are not the best evidence for either side. The testimony of the roommate witness will show BK fits her description But she is going to be brutally cross-examined.
 
I paused one of the traffic stop videos and got a good view of the center stack. I found the specs for the same head unit and it is not a GPS-capable one. The other option available for that year does have GPS but it has a giant screen ("infotainment" type) and it not even similar to what he has in the video.

Just to add a source of verification:
I don't have a screencap handy of the traffic stop video but this is the head unit model I saw in his car: 2011 - 2015 Hyundai Elantra OEM Single CD AM FM SAT MP3 Radio Receiver
and this is the GPS-capable one:
2014-2016 Hyundai ELANTRA OEM GPS Navigation System Bluetooth XM CD Radio
Great sleuthing!
 
It is, assuming there was something of evidential value he put in his neighbours trash, he had been forensically aware on one hand… but the other, he put it in his NEIGHBOURS trash. I mean, does he really think that wouldn’t be traced back to him? Has he not considered LE would clock on that it was likely him? Considering he goes to uni 10 miles from the crime scene! I know he’s intelligent but Jesus, where’s his common sense?
This…it’s like he’s smart enough to leave minimal (virtually none) DNA at the scene but too stupid to discard DNA of evidentiary value in a trash bin that’s not across the street from his parents’ home?!?
 
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