ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 45

[SteveP]

I hope the source wasn't the Facebook poster who claimed that a local police officer near Kohberger's parents' house had blabbed to her husband. That post did not seem all that credible.

I am pretty sure that is exactly the "source". Was picked up off social media by one, and "borrowed" by all the rest. JMO

 

[NCgardener]

The red stool is where the bouncer sits, I've been told. So I'm assuming it's the bouncer, not a customer, too.

That’s not BCK.

And since he’s not a POI or suspect named by LE, that’s all I’ll say

 

[everybodhi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609737506244952064

Bolger already spoke with the Daily Mail, the one that pays, before DeSales put a stop to it.

From the NYT’s link:
A spokeswoman for the university said the principal investigator on the crime survey —Michelle A. Bolger, who is listed on the university website as an associate professor — and her colleagues would not be granting interviews about their experiences working with Mr. Kohberger.

Unlocked NYT’s link
Idaho Murder Suspect Had Been a Student of the Criminal Mind

He seemed to show a particular interest in crime scenes and serial killers, Ms. Slaven said.

“At the time it seemed as if he was just a curious student, so if his questions felt odd we didn’t think much of it because it fit our curriculum,” she said.

Another student said Mr. Kohberger seemed interested in the thought processes of criminals while they committed crimes and less interested in the social factors that might lead people to do so, saying that he believed some people were just bound to break the law.
The fellow student, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared that speaking publicly could jeopardize his safety, described Mr. Kohberger as the black sheep of the class, often taking contrarian viewpoints and sometimes getting into arguments with his peers, particularly women.

The classmate recalled one instance in which Mr. Kohberger began explaining a somewhat elementary criminology concept to a fellow doctoral student, who then accused him of “mansplaining.” A heated back-and-forth ensued and the doctoral student eventually stormed out of the classroom, he said.

 

[kae27]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609721094042271744

OH NO, another 500 pages on veganism.

 

[Copper107]

I can't like this post enough.

I have seen this on a smaller scale with younger people. Pre-teen (transition age) and younger. My experience is limited, but I've had some children stand out, but one in particular. I was working in private school situation for children with special needs. The majority of the children had downs, MR, non verbal autism, cp. Some behaviors but nothing that schedules, boundaries and calm setting couldn't overcome. I'll never be certain how it happened (but I assume it was misplaced and naive "compassion), but we accepted a child (9) who had been expelled from 2 other schools. He had some DXs (that I don't believe were compatible with the children who were enrolled). But.. he was enrolled. Long story short, this kid could smell weakness from a mile away. He would pinch, trip, etc children who were vulnerable. He understood he could get away with doing things to those who couldn't speak and he was also adept at picking the perfect opportunity and moment when adults were distracted. He was also very physically affectionate. Uncomfortably so. The principal and psych did not want to hear any of it. They took this child under the proverbial wing. They were going to save him. He didn't last long and his tenure there ended up with him stomping another non verbal boy who had autism and CP. The boy who was stomped spent 3 days in the hospital.

I found out later that this child was sexually abused by his siblings while his mother partied. A few years after the above incidents, he placed his infant brother in an outdoor public trash can because he was tired of
hearing him cry. That culminated in him being institutionalized until 18 (which is coming up shortly). Heaven help us all.

Sometimes things are too "wrong". Sometimes, it's too late. Sometimes, a person is too damaged. And sometimes people naively try to "save" these extremely damaged people instead of protecting those innocents around them.

Imho.

Yes, that is so disturbing and sickening. I can't imagine what must occurred in his young life, it sounds absolutely horrific. Children can be irrevocably damaged by acts of neglect, abuse, and the subsequent trauma associated with it. Without a doubt, some overcome others will spiral into people who can't fit into a moralistic society and never will. IMO

 

[Charlot123]

The first time I saw BCK's mugshot on Friday I thought he looked like Timothy McVeigh...

I might be the only one who sees in him the unbeatable Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth.

 

[newredtabby]

Bryan Kohberger harassed women at Pennsylvania brewery: report

Bryan Kohberger, accused of brutally murdering four University of Idaho students last month, frightened female staffers at a Pennsylvania brewery near his hometown, according to a report.

nypost.com

Bryan Kohberger raised some red flags at Seven Sirens Brewing Company. He was often a bully there.

Nothing in this article states BK bullied anyone at the bar.

 

[JohnBull]

This was a good read:

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/accused-university-of-idaho-killer-bryan-kohberger-was-creep-to-girls-at-school-former-classmates-allege/news-story/147afb65411afd1dea02d84538e04bb8?amp

That's really interesting. A social outcast who loses a massive amount of weight (perhaps because of drugs) and finds that there's more to popularity than being thin. You could write a novel on that theme (if it hasn't been done already). He finds that he's attractive physically to the girls but doesn't have the social skills to court the opposite sex, which leads to extreme sexual frustration and ultimately a desire to wreak vengeance on the people, or representatives of the people, whom he feels have slighted him.

 

[kittythehare]

Anyone else frustrated by how the media posts so many sound bites on this story but reporters don't even have all the info that's available? It took me like 20 mins to catch up on the arrest and all the details and these reporters are supposed to be following the story and don't even provide accurate reporting... one example that was frustrating was I think News Nation, an "expert" talked about how BK could have discarded the murder weapon "anywhere" on his cross-country drive but neglected to add or consider (if they even knew) that BK's dad was on the ride with him. Like, seems less likely he could throw a bloody knife over the side of a bridge with his dad riding shotgun... sigh

If they're bored, there's more than enough alarming Covid xBB.1.5 reports that the general public might find more useful than copied unverified anonymous social media posts by cousins of friends of sister of etc etc etc

 

[Panniniclaus]

I might be the only one who sees in him the unbeatable Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth.

I pardon you

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Does this look like Bryan Kohberger

Vigil at Boise State for 4 murdered UI students

On Thursday night, people gathered by the hundreds at a candlelight vigil to remember the lives of Kaylee, Ethan, Xana and Madison.The four were University of

idahonews.com

 

[North_Idaho_Nony]

That's really interesting. A social outcast who loses a massive amount of weight (perhaps because of drugs) and finds that there's more to popularity than being thin. You could write a novel on that theme (if it hasn't been done already). He finds that he's attractive physically to the girls but doesn't have the social skills to court the opposite sex, which leads to extreme sexual frustration and ultimately a desire to wreak vengeance on the people, or representatives of the people, whom he feels have slighted him.

Alternatively, it was never about his physical appearance in the first place but rather his dark vibe. Intuition is invaluable.

Moo.

 

[Breakout]

Exactly.
It's not like nobody has mentioned it.
Now, I'm not sure he stated it as a certainty as opposed to 'as an example' but having said that for accuracy, I'd say it's likely.
I also have a feeling he took film or photographs of his alleged handiwork and a phone would have been the most useful for those purposes.. JMO

If he turned on Airplane Mode; turned off wifi, cell data, and location services, would any of those actions inhibit or limit the tracking?

 

[Palinsmom]

Posting for clarification on my part. I posted an opinion/ theory on thread #44 suggesting that ( shortened version and more simplified) perhaps during a possible struggle between BK and one of the victims that maybe he was hit in the nose causing it to bleed to provide a possible link to DNA.

My original post must have been confusing because a reply stated that he did not shave his head and something else about his body hair.?

I did not say anything about him shaving his head or body.

Sorry for the confusion, I did say that possibly the back of a victims head could have bumped his nose causing it to bleed.

My point was bloody nose equals DNA at scene perhaps on victim/s

 

[Copper107]

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Does this look like Bryan Kohberger

Vigil at Boise State for 4 murdered UI students

On Thursday night, people gathered by the hundreds at a candlelight vigil to remember the lives of Kaylee, Ethan, Xana and Madison.The four were University of

idahonews.com

Who are you suggesting may look like the suspect?

I don't see what you're seeing but would like the opportunity to.

 

[Normancita]

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Does this look like Bryan Kohberger

Vigil at Boise State for 4 murdered UI students

On Thursday night, people gathered by the hundreds at a candlelight vigil to remember the lives of Kaylee, Ethan, Xana and Madison.The four were University of

idahonews.com

I can’t tell but it’s definitely possible.

 

[Zella]

Alternatively, it was never about his physical appearance in the first place but rather his dark vibe.

Moo.

He's also repeatedly been described as someone who, for lack of a better word, doesn't play nicely with others. There are numerous MSM reports of people who knew him who talk about how he could be a very aggressive and violent bully. One former friend also said that he was extremely condescending and made a point of telling this person he was stupid constantly, and that kind of vibe seems to be a recurring theme with his classmates--that he felt he was smarter than other people and wasn't very subtle or gracious about it.

I agree his appearance is unsettling and his morbid interests may have been an automatic turnoff, but it sounds like he treats people pretty poorly and has a hard time maintaining social relationships because of his own obnoxious behavior. And that's going to be as much of a turnoff to most potential romantic partners as it will with former friends and classmates. MOO

I don't doubt the accounts of classmates that he was bullied about his weight and his awkwardness in school, but it seems like his social defense mechanism since then was to push people away and ridicule them before they ridiculed and rejected him, even after the bullying stopped.

 

[JohnBull]

Sorry for the confusion, I did say that possibly the back of a victims head could have bumped his nose causing it to bleed.

My point was bloody nose equals DNA at scene perhaps on victim/s

Not at all an unlikely scenario, in my opinion.

 

[kittythehare]

If he turned on Airplane Mode; turned off wifi, cell data, and location services, would any of those actions inhibit or limit the tracking?

I'm sure they would but that was not the point his temporary lawyer was making in this instance

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

Without DNA analysis and new sequencer tech, he might have, though. It's SUCH a relief that this guy is off the streets.

Now they're going to find microscopic evidence from 1122 King in his car.

THere's no way, IMO, that he showered at the scene (without leading TONS of DNA) so of course he got into the car, as far as we know. Sure, he might have changed all of his clothing (what a risk, possibly doing it inside the house - but you can't really change all your clothes with big old kevlar gloves or any usual style of glove without using your ungloved hands). The gloves have the most blood - they *must* be taken off, but the fingers are going to touch blood.

Which will then be on the steering wheel. I know I said it before, but this guy clearly didn't take even an introductory course in human genetics (and that doesn't surprise me, given his course of study).

Completely agree.
He thought he knew it all but only understood the theory.
AFAIK he didn't take any 'lab' courses?
ETA: grammar