Thought it would be interesting to see how many different "profiles" the paid professionals are coming up with. Keep in mind they DO NOT have the data LE has. They are working with the same info we have but have their knowledge and experience.
1. Incel theory - Carole Lieberman (Forensic Psychiatrist)
Police have not yet identified a suspect in the killings of four University of Idaho students who were found dead in their beds on November 13.
www.newsweek.com
Forensic psychiatrist Carole Lieberman said she is confident the slayings were not a random attack or the work of a serial killer. The "multiple stabbings and bloody mess are signs that it was personal and that the killer was enraged," Lieberman told
Newsweek.
- Personal
- Enraged
- Not random or serial
- Felt rejected or would be suitor
2. Young & knew at least one victim - Jim Clemente (Former FBI profiler)
The murderer who ruthlessly slaughtered four University of Idaho students is likely a “younger” man and a first-time killer, famed former FBI profiler Jim Clemente said.
nypost.com
The murderer who ruthlessly slaughtered four
University of Idaho students is likely a “
younger” man and a first-time killer, famed former FBI profiler Jim Clemente said.
Clemente, a criminal behavioral expert and former New York State prosecutor, believes the person
who killed Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Ethan Chapin, 20, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Madison Mogen, 21 on Nov. 13 likely knew
at least one of the victims.
- Young
- Comfortable with blood
- First-time killer
- Lives in the area
- Doesn't mind "wet work" and profession will say the same
And here:
Idaho college killer likely a stalker or knew students, ex-FBI profiler says he says this:
- Stalker
- Not Sophisticated criminally or forensically
3. Potential Serial Killer -Dr. Casey Jordan (criminologist, behavior analyst, attorney)
Could Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle have been killed by a serial killer? Criminal profiler Dr. Casey Jordan says it's possible.
www.insideedition.com
You could have somebody who is a potential
serial killer who has been thinking about doing this for a very long time,” he tells Inside Edition. “If the fantasy was fulfilled, then the fantasy will bloom even larger and very often, we will find a perp who feels compelled to do it again.”
But Jordan says another, and perhaps stronger, possibility is that the victims were acquaintances with their killer.
- Potential Serial Killer
- Acquaintances w/ killer
- From the community
- In the house before
4. Instrumental Violence-Mary Ellen O'Toole (Retired agent and profiler FBI)
Paraphrasing interview: Targeted has meaning. Equal targets or not?
- Not evidence conscious
- Likely cut themselves and left DNA evidence
- Likely been in the home prior
- Prior experience being in other people's homes
- Had to be a sturdy knife
- Up close and personal
- Sloppy crime scene but efficient with knife means experienced
- Doubtful the knife was tossed
- The knife has been used before but not necessarily in a murder
- Instrumental not reactive violence
- cold-blooded, predatory, callous violence perpetrated frequently on strangers
- Psychopathic individuals lacking empathy and guilt commit high-risk crimes b/c they enjoy the crime
- Believes there is a threat to the community
- High risk for reoffending
5. Young male -Jonathan Gilliam (Former FBI Special Agent)
- Young male
- One, not two killers
- Could get in and out w/ out being seen
- Entered the second floor
- Not the first time this person did this
- Adrenaline filled incident
- Odd or manacing behavior toward people close to him
- Typically a killing like this is not the first kill unless in the family environment (which this is not)
- Sees this as an escalation
- 3-hour travel distance this person probably lives
6. Copycat killer - Bill Warner - (Private Detective)
THE University of Idaho students’ murderer may be responsible for at least two other deaths, following in serial killer Ted Bundy’s footsteps, a private investigator has claimed. ItR…
www.the-sun.com
Bill Warner, a private detective from Sarasota,
Florida, called the murderer a "copy cat
serial killer" after tracing down the same
killing spree pattern as the infamous
Ted Bundy murders.
"Current trail of unsolved murders in Washington, Oregon, and Moscow Idaho mimics trail of murders committed by serial killer Ted Bundy in 1970's," he said.
Bundy "appears to have started his murder spree in Feb 1974 in Washington, then May 1974 in Oregon and then May 1975 in Idaho and then many, many more, he was just getting started," Warner explained.
He added: "No coincidence when the same exact geographic path used by serial killer Ted Bundy in 1970's mimicked by current copy cat serial killer murders in Washington, Oregon and the case in Moscow Idaho, three for three."
Early 30's
- Above Avg. height
- Fighting Skills
- Powerful build
- Martial arts training
7. Targeted & In their orbit-Bill Daly (Former FBI Investigator)
Former FBI investigator Bill Daly told Fox News that he believes the Idaho quadruple murders was a targeted attack and that someone in the slain college students' orbit caused it to happen.
www.dailymail.co.uk
A former
FBI investigator said he believes that the
Idaho quadruple murders were a targeted attack and that someone in the slain college students' 'orbit' caused it to happen.
Former FBI investigator Bill Daly provides expert analysis of the four University of Idaho students who were mysteriously murdered two weeks ago today on ‘Fox & Friends Weekend.’
www.foxnews.com
- Two unharmed people
- Would have to know the home
- Not mass murderer rampage b/c others downstairs unharmed
- Think LE have more than we are aware
- DNA & Fingerprints are only good if they have something to compare to right now, but great later
8. In their Circle - Nancy Grace
CrimeOnline’s Nancy Grace isn’t concerned that police in Idaho haven’t named a suspect or found a weapon in the gruesome murders of four University of Idaho students two weeks ago. She told Fox News that she “doesn’t agree” with online comments that police don’t know what they’re doing. “Anybody...
www.crimeonline.com
- Someone in their circle
- No connection w/ person that called it in
9. Someone knew the house-Brad Garrett (Former FBI)
"You're going to have to start spreading out to people they had just a casual relationship with," former FBI agent Brad Garrett said.
abc7ny.com
"It tells me that someone came into the house with a comfort level -- that they probably knew their way around the house," Garrett said.
Garrett said investigators should be broadening their search outside the victims' immediate circle of friends and family.
"You're going to have to start spreading out to people they had just a casual relationship with," he said.
10. Likely Female -Rodney Demery - (Former homicide detective-podcaster "murder chose me")
#MurderChoseMe host and former homicide detective Rodney Demery believes it's "very likely" a woman is behind the murder of four college students in Idaho. "I think it was someone that had a rage, a certain passion, to create such violence," Demery says. #Banfield
www.newsnationnow.com
ormer homicide detective Rodney Demery believes it's "very likely" a woman is behind the murder of four college students in Idaho. "I think it was someone that had a rage, a certain passion, to create such violence," Demery says.
- 7% female mass murderers
- Passion
- Rage
- Same-sex relationship
11. Not Serial Killer - Mark Furhman -(Former LAPD Detective & lives in Idaho)
Former LAPD detective Mark Fuhrman joins 'Jesse Watters Primetime' to give his take on the latest in the Idaho murders investigation.
www.foxnews.com
Retired LAPD detective and Fox News contributor Mark Fuhrman reveals his takeaways from the quadruple murder investigation and his conversations with University of Idaho students.
www.foxnews.com
- Not a serial killer
- Targeted crime
- Killer sought out and knows one or more of the victims
- Knife is a weapon of rage
- Should be able to find the order of killings, height, footprint, right or left-handed from blood spatter analysis
- Should be able to get blood type even if DNA is not in the system
