ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 6

[Oregonmama]

PRESSER LINK

 

[Jacpansea]

What if E and X had someone with them when they got home? What if the person was just a drunk college kid and there was a fight between e and the kid that turned deadly. He had to kill everyone who saw him there to eliminate witnesses. Maybe that’s why the police are not focusing on when the girls came home and are putting out the 1:45 for when they think the couple came home to see who the other person that came back with the couple was.

 

[Too Right]

Some things I wonder:
1. Could one of the friends have used Find My Friends? 2. Didn’t any of them regularly lock their bedroom doors for privacy given there was a history of lots of guests? 3. Wouldn’t a houseful of such lovely women created jealousy in other women whose love interest maybe paid them too much attention? 4. An official said it was an especially horrifying scene. Were the victims tortured or desecrated? 5. How can the families and friends be comforted after something like this?

 

[Aus94]

If every single initial strike didn’t immediately kill them, they would be able to scream right? I imagine some screaming and others waking up to help, but no 911 calls is strange.

It would really depend on what was injured or struck first. If carotid is cut first, there would be no hope for any noise .

 

[Tricia]

We will livestream the press conference at 6:00 PM Eastern.

 

[NWguy22]

The general automobile exception allows a police officer to search a car when the officer believes that there is “probable cause” that the vehicle contains evidence of a crime.
(Idaho law office: When can a police officer search my car? - Atkinson Law Office)
At any rate it would not take a week in the case of a quadruple homicide.

ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 5

Would the deceaseds’ cars be left at the scene of the crime? I initially thought they’d be towed to police headquarters but if they don’t feel any part of the crime took place in the cars, then maybe not. Still in that situation, would families of the deceased take the cars away and back home...

www.websleuths.com

I don’t know what to tell you, that’s just wrong. Have a look at Arizona v Gant

Arizona v. Gant - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

And that’s incident to arrest. Here we have a car that’s just been sitting there and has been for a week. I can pretty much guarantee permission or a warrant is required

 

[uburoi1]

I don’t know what to tell you, that’s just wrong. Have a look at Arizona v Gant

Arizona v. Gant - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

And that’s incident to arrest. Here we have a car that’s just been sitting there and has been for a week. I can pretty much guarantee permission or a warrant is required

Don't tell me; tell the Idaho law firm that published it on its page.

 

[Sillybilly]

Update 8:28 p.m. ** CLARIFICATION ** The cell phone used to call 911 belonged to one of the surviving roommates.
Source

Thanks for the big correction. I dunno. That update was yesterday. Today the same source says:

"Initially, the 911 call made at 11:58 a.m. on November 13th requested aid for an unconscious person. The call was made from inside the residence on one of the roommates’ cell phone. Moscow Police Department arrived shortly thereafter and found all four victims. "

 

[Ed Teach]

I mentioned the white car in an earlier thread. You can see this same car in the Google maps image which I believe is from 2021. So whoever owns/drives that car has maybe lived in that house longer than the others.

 

[Jbootneil]

I mentioned the white car in an earlier thread. You can see this same car in the Google maps image which I believe is from 2021. So whoever owns/drives that car has maybe lived in that house longer than the others.

A couple of the victims were seniors. Probably one of their’s.

 

[layer]

How can the families and friends be comforted after something like this?

Right before the holidays. The pain is unfathomable.

 

[Arkay]

Couldn't bring it over from the previous thread, but a poster earlier suggested that American kids know where the heart is located, because they daily recite the Pledge of Allegiance from kindergarten on. Then I believe it was @gitana1 who replied that the heart is actually more centrally located in the chest.

I taught 8th graders and I can state that the majority of my students, over my 25 years of teaching, had no idea what they are even saying when they pledge. It's just rote recitation. (I did some lessons on this to enlighten them).

IMO, they learn no more about the location and anatomy of the heart during the Pledge of Allegiance than a soldier learns about the brain's anatomy when he or she salutes.

I don't mean to suggest that the killer here had medical training, just that we cannot presume anything at this point. He likely just kept stabbing their general chest areas until they were dead.


Jmo

 

[Tillicum]

Some thoughts on how the suspect entered the home.

I've heard there was a security "code" used to access the home. Was this for the front door only?

I also notice some tape on the back sliding door. Not sure if that means LE has ruled out that entry or if it was broken.

If the suspect did use a "code" to enter, that would be significant I would think.

It's my understanding that the tape is used to detect if anything could have been moved, opened or contaminated after the tape was placed there. It won't stop someone from messing with entrance and exit points, but it will alert LE if they've been tampered with.

 

[nao]

If every single initial strike didn’t immediately kill them, they would be able to scream right? I imagine some screaming and others waking up to help, but no 911 calls is strange.

Moo..i believe screaming is uncommon. If you getting a beat down or being stabbed in the heat of the moment there is not time or energy to scream. If you see someone at a distance coming at you...then you might scream...moo

 

[WtfHappened]

Link please to where it says she had a current bf

 

[Alethea]

I don’t know what to tell you, that’s just wrong. Have a look at Arizona v Gant

Arizona v. Gant - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

And that’s incident to arrest. Here we have a car that’s just been sitting there and has been for a week. I can pretty much guarantee permission or a warrant is required

Cynically LE will always get a search warrant so they can say they executed 257 search warrants in their investigation at trial. It's just good practice to have down why you want to search something and what you think you will find.

 

[FruitTingles]

Now I’m hoping I haven’t misinterpreted what has been put out there. J is the ex, there is another J from my understanding (and tell me if I’m wrong), whom Kaylee was reportedly currently dating.

I am thinking you are getting confused by MM’s long-term partner whose name also starts with a J.

 

[Alethea]

So would it be safe to assume she does not have a new bf? I’m sure her parents would have said something in all of their interviews so far. They’ve been pretty open IMO.

Honestly I have no idea! I was just saying if it wasn't from an approved source we couldn't talk about it lol

 

[itsrak]

When I hear 'temporary break' in a relationship, make me think there could be concern someone might not handle a permanent break well, so just call it a temporary break while you GTFO.

 

[Snoop Sister]

That's very interesting,I had no clue she had a new boyfriend.

From the following article it states her sister thought she would be eventually getting back with J. Additionally, it is stated that the 911 call came from one of the surviving roommates‘ phone. The info on msm regarding the murders appear so contradictory and convoluted…it is difficult to know what is fact.

Idaho Murders: What We Know

A man who was studying for a Ph.D. at a nearby university is charged in the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho undergraduates. Many questions remain.

www.nytimes.com