First of all, I subscribe to the old adage "innocent until proven guilty".
Next, you refer to double jeopardy. I ask you to look at the case of Bianca Jones/D'Andre Lane where a man was convicted of murder purely on circumstantial evidence & cadaver alerts, despite the child not being found to date. What's so different about Deorr's case?
If LE want closure they should still be searching, not leaving it to a PI to scratch around for evidence they may have missed. Did Klein take Chance up to Stone Reservoir?
You refer to lies & electronic footprints. Where can I find precise details of all the discrepancies in the statements made by JA & VDK, along with the records of the phone pings, please? - or are we merely to accept the word of LE/Klein?
Having listened to the recent interview given by IR (and Klein specifically stated IR had been truthful) what led Klein to state that Deorr was never at the campsite? Surely any half-decent PI would have ensured he had statements from ALL parties at the scene before making a decision on culpability.
The Libel is a side issue which I cannot discuss if US civil law is at great variance with UK Law. I have a vague recollection of a case in the US in which someone was awarded circa $250000 for being the recipient of what was deemed a racially offensive comment. Is that somehow more serious than being accused of disposing of your child?
"First of all" I defended J and V's innocence for months. You have not been here since the beginning and clearly haven't read the media thread in full. Many many many of us here were in full support of J and V from day one... but that all changed based on their behaviours and LE info, not Klein info. My opinion had changed before I ever heard anything from Klein the first time. (Not sure why it even matters whether it came from LE or PI since the PI sends his evidence to LE anyway...)
Second, you refer to the Bianca/D'Andre case: I* will draw your attention to this (just one of many articles):
" The Michigan appeals court has affirmed the murder conviction of a Detroit man whose 2-year-old daughter has not been found.
The court says there was sufficient circumstantial evidence to support DAndre Lanes convictions. He was charged with first-degree child abuse and murder committed during another felony."
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https://www.google.ca/amp/detroit.c...urder-of-missing-2-year-old-bianca-jones/amp/
So they had enough evidence for a conviction in that case.* Something we don't yet have here since LE still don't have a crime scene and lack DNA evidence (with or without a body). You need to realize that anything that will be evidence at trial is kept close to the vest and not divulged to the public. That's why we have no idea what they know.* Do you think for a second that if LE believed Deorr was on that mountain they would stop searching? Hell no they wouldn't. They obviously have enough info that we don't know about to confirm he wasn't there. You know, the fact NO ONE else saw him comes to mind. The police suspect Deorr is deceased, therefore there isn't as much urgency to "find" him as there is to gather solid evidence to build a good foundation for their case.Remember, in the US guilt must be proven, reasonable doubt for a juror is enough to set them free. I am not the first (or last) to mention the possibility of double jeopardy taking place in this case. If they can cast reasonable doubt and there is no body they would walk free. Also I will add for arguments sake that When it comes to the Bianca/D'andre case:African Americans often get the short end of the stick in the US legal system, there is no denying that.
And yes I refer to electronic footprints because it's common sense that if they all had cells and made calls and texts there will be a footprint and cell tower pings. This comes into play in pretty much any investigation in the 21st century. They have even commented about how Vernal claimed to have travelled down the road to call 911 when based on call records they know that isn't the case. They will be able to pin point a lot based on those cells. They have also commented on Jessicas cell activity and inactivity the night before and day of.
When it comes to your questions about the search dogs and the cell phone info and J and V's discrepancies in their statements I will say one more time: go read the media thread! I'm not gonna waste my time searching through media articles I've read a hundred times to spoon feed you info that you should've researched yourself before defending/commenting. All the info we discuss here is available there since due to TOS we can only discuss LE, Klein and MSM info. It's all in that thread. Please verse yourself in it.
You ask if we are "merely" to accept the info from Klein and LE.... umm yes. You should believe the FBI and LE over the people who aren't even mourning their missing son.* Like... come on!! Was that a joke? And you say Klein said IR was truthful. He never said that. They said IR has been the most CONSISTANT in his statements.
And you're reference to that Libel case payout is irrelevant to this case. The one you refer to was likely an innocent person being harassed and slandered.* Big difference from a PI repeating what LE has said about two MURDER SUSPECTS and then released recordings of their words. That is not Slander and does not constitute grounds for a Libel case. They will never win. Mark my words.
Then you close by asking if the racial Libel case is more serious than being accused of disposing of your child. Umm... the Sheriff has named them as SUSPECTS in their sons suspected intentional homicide. Therefore anything Klein or anyone else says in reference to that is speculation and would be considered legal. They are murder suspects.* Klein isn't posting an uninformed opinion. He is posting what has come directly from J and V for the most part. Sure, if I went on the radio and said my neighbour killed someone and hadn't he could sue the pants off me. But when LE names my neighbour a murder suspect that's a different story.
Now, maybe you should go read the media thread in full. I wish we didn't have 28 million threads in this discussion because I would suggest you read everything we have covered since day 1 but that would take you months.