ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #68
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Summary of tweets for Trial Day 2, 4/11/23 - State Witness: Rexburg Police Detective Ray Hermosillo.
Nate Eaton
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NEW DAY, NEW THREAD: Back in the courtroom. Lori is sitting between her attorneys dressed in a pink blouse. She's wearing black-rimmed glasses, smiling, very chatty with Jim Archibald and John Thomas. The first witness today will be Rexburg Police Dept. Detective Ray Hermosillo.
Larry Woodcock is here in the courtroom with some family members but Kay Woodcock is absent.
I'm told there are 16 people watching the trial in the Madison County Courthouse room this morning.
John Prior, Chad Daybell's attorney, is in the courtroom again this morning. We are waiting for the jurors to be brought in.
Judge Steven Boyce has entered the courtroom. Prosecutors Rob Wood, Rachel Smith and Lindsey Smith are here.
Jurors are brought in, Det. Ray Hermosillo is sworn in.
Hermosillo has been a detective for four years and has been with RPD for 22 yrs. He says he became involved in the investigation on Nov. 1 when he was contacted by the Fremont County Sheriff's Office that there was a Jeep in Rexburg that was possibly involved in a homicide.
Hermosillo contacted Gilbert police about the Jeep and they asked him to conduct surveillance on Lori Daybell's apartment on Pioneer Road. They observed Chad and Lori but they never saw a teenage girl or young boy with Lori.
Hermosillo says police seized the Jeep on Nov. 4 from the residence. Gilbert police came to Rexburg on Nov. 18 to serve a warrant on the Jeep data information system. That is when Hermosillo first heard about JJ and Tylee.
RPD was told JJ's grandmother was concerned that she had not heard from JJ in a while and police in Arizona were going to check if he was down there.
On Nov. 25, a Gilbert detective contacted Hermosillo and said they could not find JJ. Kay Woodcock asked a welfare check on JJ. The next morning, Hermosillo and Det. Hope from RPD went to Lori's house.
They saw Chad Daybell and Alex Cox unloading a pickup. Hermosillo walked up to Alex, asked if Lori was home and Alex said Lori was not. Hermosillo said he was there to do a welfare check on JJ. Alex looked at him with a "blank look" and then Alex looked at Chad
Chad and Alex did not say anything. Hermosillo became suspicious and he again asked Alex where JJ was. Alex said JJ was with Kay in Louisiana and Hermosillo said that wasn't possible as Kay was the one who asked for the welfare check.
Hermosillo asked if Alex had Lori's phone number. Alex said he did not, which Hermosillo did not believe. Hermosillo and Hope knocked on Lori's door but nobody answered.
He and Hope began knocking on other doors and Hermosillo observed Chad leaving in his Chevy Equinox. Hermosillo stopped him and asked Chad when was the last time he saw JJ. Chad said it was in October in Apt. 107 with Lori Vallow.
Hermosillo asked Chad how he knew Lori. Chad responded he hardly knew her and said they had only met a couple times.
Hermosillo knew Chad was lying because police were award Chad and Lori had recently got married. Hermosillo asked Chad for Lor's phone number and he said he didn't have it.
Eventually Chad gave Hermosillo the number and said he originally didn't provide it because he thought Hermosillo was accusing him of something.
Hermosillo called Det. Ron Ball and said he was concerned about JJ's whereabouts. Other detectives were called and they began knocking on doors at the complex.
Ball told Hermosillo to go to the prosecutor's office for a search warrant while the other officers stayed on scene to wait for Lori, Alex or Melani Boudreaux.
Police did not get a warrant that day because Lori returned Det. Hope's call and agreed to open the door to talk with Det. Ball and Det. Stubbs. They were wearing body cameras that recorded the interaction.
Hermosillo begins to describe what he saw on the body camera footage but Thomas object and says it's hearsay. Attorneys now in a sidebar conference with the judge. Sidebars are private and white noise is played in the courtroom so nobody can overhear what is said.
Wood back to questioning Hermosillo. The detective says he contacted a Gilbert police detective late that evening and said they still did not know where JJ was. Another detective then reached out to Melanie Gibb to see if JJ was with her, Gibb said he was not.
The next morning, Nov. 27, police obtained a search warrant for the apartments of Lori, Alex and Melanie P. They started with Lori's and had to break down the front door.
There were couches, dishes in the sink, food in the pantry, food in the refrigerator, beds and toiletries were upstairs - everything that looked like somebody had lived there "except there were no clothes on any of the hangers. All of the hangers were empty."
Nobody was in the apartments and apt. 107 was completely empty.
Police found a few toys,items belonging to JJ including a prescription medication. They also found several guns in the garage of apt. 175, several Army-type knives, empty magazines for various weapons - "there were things of that nature in the garage that caught our eye."
Hermosillo says in apt. 175, they found a rental agreement for a storage unit in Rexburg. Police obtained a search warrant for the storage unit. Here's a story I did in Feb. 2020 about the storage unit and what was inside.
State asks to admit into evidence three images of the apartment complex and interior photos taken the day the search warrant was executed. Pictures are admitted.
The 1st photo is the exterior of Lori's apartment. The 2nd photo is the front room of apt. 175 looking into the living room/dining area. The next photo shows the living room/area going upstairs. The next photo is a Star Wars suitcase with 3-5 preparedness bags with emergency kits
The next photo was taken looking down the stairs. The next photo is the master bedroom. The next photo is the master bedroom closet with all the empty hangers in the closet. No clothes - just a towel hanging on the back door.
"Normally when people go on trips and plan to come home, they don't take all their belongings from their closet. This caught our attention because there was nothing in the closet other than empty hangers."
The next photo is another bedroom with some of Alex Cox's belongings. His name was on a plastic tub in the closet. In another room was some Hazmat-looking white suits lying on the floor. A tub on the closet had Alex Cox's belongings.
Hermosillo now being shown images of the contract Lori signed with the storage unit company. Lori signed her name as Lori Ryan.
Hermosillo now being shown images of items found in Lori's garage. The photos are admitted into evidence.
First image shows items in a garage that were taken out of a tub. There is a Ghilli (camouflage) suit laid out on the ground. Police also found gun magazines and silencers to put on the end of a gun to keep it quiet when it's fired.
Second image shows clothing laid out on the ground. Third image shows several rounds of ammunition that was discovered in a tub. "A lot of ammunition in that specific tub," Hermosillo says.
Fourth image shows a rifle found in the garage and the barrel is threaded for a silencer. Fifth image shows the same rifle laid down on the table at the police department. Another rifle was inside of the same bag.
Next image shows two silencers found inside the garage. Next image shows knives that were found near the rifles. Next image shows a handgun found in a tub in the garage. Next image is a Halloween mask that was found on top of a plastic Walmart bag.
Inside the bag was rope and duct tape. Next image shows Alex Cox's active passport found inside the garage.
Next image shows documents found inside Lori's garage. There were emails from Chad Daybell. As Hermosillo is reviewing this evidence, Lori is taking notes.
Wood shows an image that displays more emails from Chad Daybell along with another photo showing books written by Chad that were also found in the garage. The final photo is a cell phone found in the garage.
After serving the search warrant, Hermosillo says RPD contacted FBI & were trying to get a hold of Lori & Chad. Police contacted Colby Ryan, who told them he had not spoken to his sister in a while.
The search for JJ now included the search for Tylee. Hermosillo says Chad and Lori's phones were shut off.
Hermosillo says they contacted any family members who would take their calls to try and find the kids. He says Lori Vallow never called the police about her missing children.
Hermosillo says they contacted any family members who would take their calls to try and find the kids. He says Lori Vallow never called the police about her missing children.
Police set up a tipline and issued a news release on Dec. 20, 2019 about the missing children. Here is the original story East Idaho News did when we learned JJ and Tylee were gone. https://
The first photos the world ever saw of Tylee and JJ issued with that original news release.
Hermosillo says through his investigation, police used cell phone data and tips to determine Chad and Lori were in Kauai. Hermosillo and other officers went to Hawaii to assist Kauai police in issuing a court order on Jan. 25, 2020.
RPD also assisted Kauai Police in issuing a search warrant on Daybell's rental vehicle and their condo.
Hermosillo says the last date he is aware of "proof of life" of Tylee Ryan is from Sept. 8, 2019 based on a photo of her in Yellowstone. Last date of "proof of life" for JJ is Sept. 22, 2019 based on a photo of JJ sitting on a couch in Lori's front room.
Court is now taking a 15-20 minute morning break.
link: https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow
Nate Eaton
@NateNewsNow
·
1h
NEW DAY, NEW THREAD: Back in the courtroom. Lori is sitting between her attorneys dressed in a pink blouse. She's wearing black-rimmed glasses, smiling, very chatty with Jim Archibald and John Thomas. The first witness today will be Rexburg Police Dept. Detective Ray Hermosillo.
Larry Woodcock is here in the courtroom with some family members but Kay Woodcock is absent.
I'm told there are 16 people watching the trial in the Madison County Courthouse room this morning.
John Prior, Chad Daybell's attorney, is in the courtroom again this morning. We are waiting for the jurors to be brought in.
Judge Steven Boyce has entered the courtroom. Prosecutors Rob Wood, Rachel Smith and Lindsey Smith are here.
Jurors are brought in, Det. Ray Hermosillo is sworn in.
Hermosillo has been a detective for four years and has been with RPD for 22 yrs. He says he became involved in the investigation on Nov. 1 when he was contacted by the Fremont County Sheriff's Office that there was a Jeep in Rexburg that was possibly involved in a homicide.
Hermosillo contacted Gilbert police about the Jeep and they asked him to conduct surveillance on Lori Daybell's apartment on Pioneer Road. They observed Chad and Lori but they never saw a teenage girl or young boy with Lori.
Hermosillo says police seized the Jeep on Nov. 4 from the residence. Gilbert police came to Rexburg on Nov. 18 to serve a warrant on the Jeep data information system. That is when Hermosillo first heard about JJ and Tylee.
RPD was told JJ's grandmother was concerned that she had not heard from JJ in a while and police in Arizona were going to check if he was down there.
On Nov. 25, a Gilbert detective contacted Hermosillo and said they could not find JJ. Kay Woodcock asked a welfare check on JJ. The next morning, Hermosillo and Det. Hope from RPD went to Lori's house.
They saw Chad Daybell and Alex Cox unloading a pickup. Hermosillo walked up to Alex, asked if Lori was home and Alex said Lori was not. Hermosillo said he was there to do a welfare check on JJ. Alex looked at him with a "blank look" and then Alex looked at Chad
Chad and Alex did not say anything. Hermosillo became suspicious and he again asked Alex where JJ was. Alex said JJ was with Kay in Louisiana and Hermosillo said that wasn't possible as Kay was the one who asked for the welfare check.
Hermosillo asked if Alex had Lori's phone number. Alex said he did not, which Hermosillo did not believe. Hermosillo and Hope knocked on Lori's door but nobody answered.
He and Hope began knocking on other doors and Hermosillo observed Chad leaving in his Chevy Equinox. Hermosillo stopped him and asked Chad when was the last time he saw JJ. Chad said it was in October in Apt. 107 with Lori Vallow.
Hermosillo asked Chad how he knew Lori. Chad responded he hardly knew her and said they had only met a couple times.
Hermosillo knew Chad was lying because police were award Chad and Lori had recently got married. Hermosillo asked Chad for Lor's phone number and he said he didn't have it.
Eventually Chad gave Hermosillo the number and said he originally didn't provide it because he thought Hermosillo was accusing him of something.
Hermosillo called Det. Ron Ball and said he was concerned about JJ's whereabouts. Other detectives were called and they began knocking on doors at the complex.
Ball told Hermosillo to go to the prosecutor's office for a search warrant while the other officers stayed on scene to wait for Lori, Alex or Melani Boudreaux.
Police did not get a warrant that day because Lori returned Det. Hope's call and agreed to open the door to talk with Det. Ball and Det. Stubbs. They were wearing body cameras that recorded the interaction.
Hermosillo begins to describe what he saw on the body camera footage but Thomas object and says it's hearsay. Attorneys now in a sidebar conference with the judge. Sidebars are private and white noise is played in the courtroom so nobody can overhear what is said.
Wood back to questioning Hermosillo. The detective says he contacted a Gilbert police detective late that evening and said they still did not know where JJ was. Another detective then reached out to Melanie Gibb to see if JJ was with her, Gibb said he was not.
The next morning, Nov. 27, police obtained a search warrant for the apartments of Lori, Alex and Melanie P. They started with Lori's and had to break down the front door.
There were couches, dishes in the sink, food in the pantry, food in the refrigerator, beds and toiletries were upstairs - everything that looked like somebody had lived there "except there were no clothes on any of the hangers. All of the hangers were empty."
Nobody was in the apartments and apt. 107 was completely empty.
Police found a few toys,items belonging to JJ including a prescription medication. They also found several guns in the garage of apt. 175, several Army-type knives, empty magazines for various weapons - "there were things of that nature in the garage that caught our eye."
Hermosillo says in apt. 175, they found a rental agreement for a storage unit in Rexburg. Police obtained a search warrant for the storage unit. Here's a story I did in Feb. 2020 about the storage unit and what was inside.
State asks to admit into evidence three images of the apartment complex and interior photos taken the day the search warrant was executed. Pictures are admitted.
The 1st photo is the exterior of Lori's apartment. The 2nd photo is the front room of apt. 175 looking into the living room/dining area. The next photo shows the living room/area going upstairs. The next photo is a Star Wars suitcase with 3-5 preparedness bags with emergency kits
The next photo was taken looking down the stairs. The next photo is the master bedroom. The next photo is the master bedroom closet with all the empty hangers in the closet. No clothes - just a towel hanging on the back door.
"Normally when people go on trips and plan to come home, they don't take all their belongings from their closet. This caught our attention because there was nothing in the closet other than empty hangers."
The next photo is another bedroom with some of Alex Cox's belongings. His name was on a plastic tub in the closet. In another room was some Hazmat-looking white suits lying on the floor. A tub on the closet had Alex Cox's belongings.
Hermosillo now being shown images of the contract Lori signed with the storage unit company. Lori signed her name as Lori Ryan.
Hermosillo now being shown images of items found in Lori's garage. The photos are admitted into evidence.
First image shows items in a garage that were taken out of a tub. There is a Ghilli (camouflage) suit laid out on the ground. Police also found gun magazines and silencers to put on the end of a gun to keep it quiet when it's fired.
Second image shows clothing laid out on the ground. Third image shows several rounds of ammunition that was discovered in a tub. "A lot of ammunition in that specific tub," Hermosillo says.
Fourth image shows a rifle found in the garage and the barrel is threaded for a silencer. Fifth image shows the same rifle laid down on the table at the police department. Another rifle was inside of the same bag.
Next image shows two silencers found inside the garage. Next image shows knives that were found near the rifles. Next image shows a handgun found in a tub in the garage. Next image is a Halloween mask that was found on top of a plastic Walmart bag.
Inside the bag was rope and duct tape. Next image shows Alex Cox's active passport found inside the garage.
Next image shows documents found inside Lori's garage. There were emails from Chad Daybell. As Hermosillo is reviewing this evidence, Lori is taking notes.
Wood shows an image that displays more emails from Chad Daybell along with another photo showing books written by Chad that were also found in the garage. The final photo is a cell phone found in the garage.
After serving the search warrant, Hermosillo says RPD contacted FBI & were trying to get a hold of Lori & Chad. Police contacted Colby Ryan, who told them he had not spoken to his sister in a while.
The search for JJ now included the search for Tylee. Hermosillo says Chad and Lori's phones were shut off.
Hermosillo says they contacted any family members who would take their calls to try and find the kids. He says Lori Vallow never called the police about her missing children.
Hermosillo says they contacted any family members who would take their calls to try and find the kids. He says Lori Vallow never called the police about her missing children.
Police set up a tipline and issued a news release on Dec. 20, 2019 about the missing children. Here is the original story East Idaho News did when we learned JJ and Tylee were gone. https://
The first photos the world ever saw of Tylee and JJ issued with that original news release.
Hermosillo says through his investigation, police used cell phone data and tips to determine Chad and Lori were in Kauai. Hermosillo and other officers went to Hawaii to assist Kauai police in issuing a court order on Jan. 25, 2020.
RPD also assisted Kauai Police in issuing a search warrant on Daybell's rental vehicle and their condo.
Hermosillo says the last date he is aware of "proof of life" of Tylee Ryan is from Sept. 8, 2019 based on a photo of her in Yellowstone. Last date of "proof of life" for JJ is Sept. 22, 2019 based on a photo of JJ sitting on a couch in Lori's front room.
Court is now taking a 15-20 minute morning break.
link: https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow
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