Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #45

[indicolite22]

There are 21 posts to this thread by Annie Cushing ...Tylee's Aunt.
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https://twitter.com/AnnieCushing/status/1278008913900732416


Annie Cushing

@AnnieCushing

DAY 2: Someone from the cult group [allegedly] wrote an email that was removed from one subreddit and then republished. I believe it's authentic because it addressed facts that hadn't been released to the public yet: https://bit.ly/reddit-email

. #lorivallowstory #lorivallow (1/21)

This is the so-called "zombie email" that has been published simultaneously (in early February) on YouTube and that were weren't allowed to discuss here. The background of the email is explained elsewhere. It is basically MG's account of the case.

 

[longtimereader]

SEE IT: ‘Cult Mom’ daughter Tylee Ryan was ‘always sick,’ and doctors could never figure out why, friend says [VIDEO]

I had not heard this before. Tylee was often sick with a unknown ailment and had surgeries trying to id the problems. I remember the doctor office gave her records to LE. Hopefully this will shed light on any other abuse and establish a pattern of behavior. Jmo

 

[Teche]

https://twitter.com/jlumfox10/status/1278001169797754880
As we reported, two new charges officially filed in Fremont County, ID. Vallow will appear in court at 4:30 MST today. #fox10phoenix
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Justin Lum
@jlumfox10
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BREAKING: New charges filed against Lori Vallow per source. Two counts of conspiracy to conceal, alter or destroy evidence. Remains of her kids JJ and Tylee were found on her husband’s property June 9. #fox10phoenix



9:23 AM · Jun 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

I would love an updated mug shot!

 

[RexburgSleuth]

There are 21 posts to this thread by Annie Cushing ...Tylee's Aunt.
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Annie Cushing

@AnnieCushing

DAY 2: Someone from the cult group [allegedly] wrote an email that was removed from one subreddit and then republished. I believe it's authentic because it addressed facts that hadn't been released to the public yet: https://bit.ly/reddit-email

. #lorivallowstory #lorivallow (1/21)

Be careful what you believe from any source that is not verified. Mods, please leave this reply because it is important for people to stop running after every bit of news that seems to fit the narrative. I cannot confirm or deny the authenticity of this alleged email from the unknown source. Even so, some things about are factually impossible. Even though this is again shared by Annie Cushing, it's not verified.
I have addressed the same email message once posted to a YouTube channel earlier:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #18

The very first paragraph of this alleged email is factually incorrect:
"They met Technically Sept 23 2019 [sic], through Jason Mow at temple. Chad was told around that time by one of the 3 Nephites, Mathoni, that a special woman would come into his life."
The email then proceeds to outline events in their relationship in 2018. Obviously 2019 is inaccurate and should be 2018. However, September 23, 2018 was a Sunday. How could JM introduce CD to LV at the Temple on a day it was closed? Further, from my earlier remark on this same subject:
"September 23, 2018 was also a Sunday wherein Chad would have been in ward council (2nd and 4th Sundays of the month) in the early morning and then three hours of church (2-hour church wasn't announced until 2 weeks later and implemented the following January). The earliest he could have left for Arizona would be noon. Driving would not get him there until September 24th. Flying would have been unlikely as well because it would be more expensive from Idaho Falls if there was a flight or time consuming to drive 4+ hours to SLC and fly from there. Either way. Chad did not meet Lori Vallow at the temple on September 23, 2018."

This and the fact that 'Chad was excommunicated in October/November 2019' seem to keep creeping into the dialogue of this case on social media. Both are simply not true. How much of the hearsay and rumor are not true?

Please understand my intentions. This is a horrific series of crimes. Those guilty should be found out and prosecuted. Our hearts and prayers are in behalf of those who have and are suffering from the evil acts committed here. Let's stick to the facts which are serious and sad enough. We don't need to sensationalize things. It's bad enough as it is.

 

[Lyrarya]

Deleted, something went wrong and my phones dying.

 

[montegrl]

Since November 26, 2019, the Rexburg Police Department has been involved in the search for JJ Vallow, DOB: 5/25/2012, (hereinafter JJ) and Tylee Ryan, DOB: 9/24/2002 (hereinafter Tylee). The search for these children began when Kay Woodcock, JJ’s grandmother, called Gilbert Arizona Police to report that she had not had any contact with JJ for several months. Gilbert Police contacted the Detective Ray Hermosillo of the Rexburg Police Department (RPD) due to the RPD helping the Gilbert Police with an investigation in which JJ’s and Tylee’s mother, cousin, and uncle were persons of interest. https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-838/Affidavit of Probable Cause.pdf

This can be considered an official statement that MBP was a POI, correct?

 

[fred&edna]

There are 21 posts to this thread by Annie Cushing ...Tylee's Aunt.
If you click the hyper link you can follow the entire thread.


https://twitter.com/AnnieCushing/status/1278008913900732416


Annie Cushing

@AnnieCushing

DAY 2: Someone from the cult group [allegedly] wrote an email that was removed from one subreddit and then republished. I believe it's authentic because it addressed facts that hadn't been released to the public yet: https://bit.ly/reddit-email

. #lorivallowstory #lorivallow (1/21)

oh wow... these adult "children" are messed up JMO

 

[indicolite22]

Be careful what you believe from any source that is not verified. Mods, please leave this reply because it is important for people to stop running after every bit of news that seems to fit the narrative. I cannot confirm or deny the authenticity of this alleged email from the unknown source. Even so, some things about are factually impossible. Even though this is again shared by Annie Cushing, it's not verified.
I have addressed the same email message once posted to a YouTube channel earlier:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #18

The very first paragraph of this alleged email is factually incorrect:
"They met Technically Sept 23 2019 [sic], through Jason Mow at temple. Chad was told around that time by one of the 3 Nephites, Mathoni, that a special woman would come into his life."
The email then proceeds to outline events in their relationship in 2018. Obviously 2019 is inaccurate and should be 2018. However, September 23, 2018 was a Sunday. How could JM introduce CD to LV at the Temple on a day it was closed? Further, from my earlier remark on this same subject:
"September 23, 2018 was also a Sunday wherein Chad would have been in ward council (2nd and 4th Sundays of the month) in the early morning and then three hours of church (2-hour church wasn't announced until 2 weeks later and implemented the following January). The earliest he could have left for Arizona would be noon. Driving would not get him there until September 24th. Flying would have been unlikely as well because it would be more expensive from Idaho Falls if there was a flight or time consuming to drive 4+ hours to SLC and fly from there. Either way. Chad did not meet Lori Vallow at the temple on September 23, 2018."

This and the fact that 'Chad was excommunicated in October/November 2019' seem to keep creeping into the dialogue of this case on social media. Both are simply not true. How much of the hearsay and rumor are not true?

Please understand my intentions. This is a horrific series of crimes. Those guilty should be found out and prosecuted. Our hearts and prayers are in behalf of those who have and are suffering from the evil acts committed here. Let's stick to the facts which are serious and sad enough. We don't need to sensationalize things. It's bad enough as it is.

I agree that by allowing Annie Cushing's Twitter on WS, sources that are otherwise not allowed here (SM and other unverified info) will be introduced. She isn't bound by journalistic standards.

That said, the aforementioned letter isn't a police report or a news article. I don't expect every detail to be accurate.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Somehow, I don't think these people were real concerned about breaking leases even if it wasn't a month to month rental.

Same. They do a lot of things that are out of the ordinary. Jmo

 

[Forever Young]

SEE IT: ‘Cult Mom’ daughter Tylee Ryan was ‘always sick,’ and doctors could never figure out why, friend says [VIDEO]

I had not heard this before. Tylee was often sick with a unknown ailment and had surgeries trying to id the problems. I remember the doctor office gave her records to LE. Hopefully this will shed light on any other abuse and establish a pattern of behavior. Jmo

Munchausen by proxy?

 

[Ohmeohmy]

https://twitter.com/NateNewsNow/status/1278045929438756864
New details in court doc: - Lori told Melanie Gibb she told Kay that she had cancer in order to convince Kay to take JJ. - Tylee’s remains were too damaged by fire & dismemberment that she had no recognizable features. Dental x-rays confirmed it was her.



Lori Daybell lied and conspired to conceal the deaths of her children, documents allege | East...
ST. ANTHONY — Court documents released Tuesday detail how police say Lori Vallow Daybell conspired to conceal evidence in the deaths of her children. They also describe the horrific manner in which...
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12:21 PM · Jun 30, 2020·Twitter Web App

 

[RexburgSleuth]

I agree that by allowing Annie Cushing's Twitter on WS, sources that are otherwise not allowed here (SM and other unverified info) will be introduced. She isn't bound by journalistic standards.

That said, the aforementioned letter isn't a police report or a news article. I don't expect every detail to be accurate.

Thank you. You said it better than I did.

 

[longtimereader]

Munchausen by proxy?

Raises lots of questions. Munchausen, poisoning or caused by anxiety and stress? Would be interesting to know if this was a specific time frame such as Hawaii when she was not in school and should have been/taken from het dad. April knew them in HI. Jmo

 

[nodamselindistress]

Munchausen by proxy?

Exactly what I was thinking! More attention/sympathy for LoLo.

 

[indicolite22]

Thank you. You said it better than I did.

No, your fact checking was on point. I was just speaking in general.

 

[Tortoise]

Since November 26, 2019, the Rexburg Police Department has been involved in the search for JJ Vallow, DOB: 5/25/2012, (hereinafter JJ) and Tylee Ryan, DOB: 9/24/2002 (hereinafter Tylee). The search for these children began when Kay Woodcock, JJ’s grandmother, called Gilbert Arizona Police to report that she had not had any contact with JJ for several months. Gilbert Police contacted the Detective Ray Hermosillo of the Rexburg Police Department (RPD) due to the RPD helping the Gilbert Police with an investigation in which JJ’s and Tylee’s mother, cousin, and uncle were persons of interest. https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-838/Affidavit of Probable Cause.pdf

This can be considered an official statement that MBP was a POI, correct?

That is a reference to the investigation of BB's shooting, not JJ and Tylee.

 

[Tortoise]

Did anyone notice, in the probable cause affidavit (clause 46) it says that similar paneling was found in Chad's barn.

06/29/2020 Probable Cause Affidavit of Detective Ron Ball

 

[Webbie16]

Did anyone notice, in the probable cause affidavit (clause 46) it says that similar paneling was found in Chad's barn.

06/29/2020 Probable Cause Affidavit of Detective Ron Ball

It didn't say that in CDs. So was that added after the search yesterday? or would that have to be there before in order to perform the search? I get iffy on some of the legal steps.

 

[montegrl]

That is a reference to the investigation of BB's shooting, not JJ and Tylee.

Oh yes, I agree. I should have made that clear. Sorry! There were statements yesterday about it and I think this backs those up. MOO

 

[Sulamith]

Be careful what you believe from any source that is not verified. Mods, please leave this reply because it is important for people to stop running after every bit of news that seems to fit the narrative. I cannot confirm or deny the authenticity of this alleged email from the unknown source. Even so, some things about are factually impossible. Even though this is again shared by Annie Cushing, it's not verified.
I have addressed the same email message once posted to a YouTube channel earlier:
Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #18

The very first paragraph of this alleged email is factually incorrect:
"They met Technically Sept 23 2019 [sic], through Jason Mow at temple. Chad was told around that time by one of the 3 Nephites, Mathoni, that a special woman would come into his life."
The email then proceeds to outline events in their relationship in 2018. Obviously 2019 is inaccurate and should be 2018. However, September 23, 2018 was a Sunday. How could JM introduce CD to LV at the Temple on a day it was closed? Further, from my earlier remark on this same subject:
"September 23, 2018 was also a Sunday wherein Chad would have been in ward council (2nd and 4th Sundays of the month) in the early morning and then three hours of church (2-hour church wasn't announced until 2 weeks later and implemented the following January). The earliest he could have left for Arizona would be noon. Driving would not get him there until September 24th. Flying would have been unlikely as well because it would be more expensive from Idaho Falls if there was a flight or time consuming to drive 4+ hours to SLC and fly from there. Either way. Chad did not meet Lori Vallow at the temple on September 23, 2018."

This and the fact that 'Chad was excommunicated in October/November 2019' seem to keep creeping into the dialogue of this case on social media. Both are simply not true. How much of the hearsay and rumor are not true?

Please understand my intentions. This is a horrific series of crimes. Those guilty should be found out and prosecuted. Our hearts and prayers are in behalf of those who have and are suffering from the evil acts committed here. Let's stick to the facts which are serious and sad enough. We don't need to sensationalize things. It's bad enough as it is.

Maybe Chad did not attend church on Sept. 23, 2018. The LDS church keeps attendance records so LE could or maybe already have checked that out. MOO Even though the temple was closed on Sun. , the trio could have met on the temple grounds. Plenty of people who cannot go into the temple yet, go to the grounds to pray. Especially couples who go and pray to get confirmation that they should get married. IMO