And murder isn't? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
And yet still a fair point.
However, divorce can't be hidden. Neither can murder, at least not usually, but sometimes people think differently.
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And murder isn't? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
What I fear is that Lori thought her children were replaced with an entity. The same as Charles was. I fear the kids met the same fate as he did.
And bouncing off your post, IMO, getting rid of JJs dog, is the same as parents who murder their children, report them missing, then give away their possessions. Because a dead child isn't going to need their toys, bedding, clothes, furniture....
eta:And Lori gave away Tylee's car.
Where is Lori reported to have owned the Nissan Rogue?I saw the info about it being a Lexus, but if you also compare the video to a Nissan Rogue, it looks similar to me. I may be remembering this wrong, do we know for sure Lori had a Nissan Rogue?
Why don't LE bring her in for questioning in this case? I don't really understand that. She was only 7 when her mother (Lori's sister) died, so they are very close.
Where is Lori reported to have owned the Nissan Rogue?
That 2nd gen (2003 - 2007) or more likely 3rd gen ( 2008-2015) Lexus RX to me
Edit: Removed the speculation of non POI.
Edit2: Changed "Who is" to "Where is Lori"
Yes that is true. I don’t think we ever really confirmed what car was in the garage on July 11, either. But, if not the Rogue in garage, it wasn’t there, nor was Tylee’s Jeep.I used the Web Sleuths search function and found a post on December 23 about the Nissan Rogue
“someone posted that Lori has 2019 Nissan Rogue(Imagine that) haha! Chad has a 2011 Chevy Equinox. no plate numbers”
Dec 23, 2019
How do the authorities know that he kids aren't with Lori and Chad? They could have been taken to the same secret hiding place at different times. One possible explanation: the police have proof that Lori and Chad flew somewhere (e.g. to Hawaii), but no record that the kids arrived there.
True. However, I think LE could be going by the neighbour report of them packing up and leaving Rexburgh on Nov 27th without the kids though. I think the kids left Rexburgh Sep 24th the day after JJ was last seen. BB had not been shot at then so BB and MB would not even have been known to LE then IMO.We don't know that Melani hasn't talked to LE. LE wouldn't necessarily tell us if she has. I think it's possible that other people were with Lori and Chad when they left Idaho and perhaps someone who is no longer with them has spoken to the police a little. That may be how LE knows that the children were not with Lori and Chad when they left Idaho and also how police can say so confidently that Lori knows what happened to the children. Police always have more info than what they release. MOO.
Can anyone remember or link any details on Alex taking dogs to desert? I’m wondering where, and which desert.
I've tried that unsuccessfully. However, I'm nearly 100% the California cliff-jumping car (MOO:Lexus RX 3rd gen) isn't on our list of known vehicles for this case.Yes that is true. I don’t think we ever really confirmed what car was in the garage on July 11, either. But, if not the rogue it wasn’t there, nor was Tylee’s Jeep.
Here is the article indicating two witnesses and that the video is real and a photo from article.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article239369388.html
I will move any of my further comments to the thread on the car specifically.
ETA: surely some authority has the ability to zoom in and see occupants from the video?
Rexburg's near a few deserts too.I believe it was the youtube guy that interviewed Kay Woodcock. (The one people quote here, just cant remember the name) There are a lot of deserts to choose from around here. Cox's had lived in a lot of cities that are a 20 minute drive or less to being out in the desert.
I agree. I've always thought that the kids left Rexburg the last week of September, that the vehicle they were in was Tylee's Jeep, and that the driver of the vehicle was AC.True. However, I think LE could be going by the neighbour report of them packing up and leaving Rexburgh on Nov 27th without the kids though. I think the kids left Rexburgh Sep 24th the day after JJ was last seen. BB had not been shot at then so BB and MB would not even have been known to LE then IMO.
My LONG thoughts- MOO
She has always moved on to the next person with “more”. More money, or “more” of whatever she was attracted to.
She seems to move based on need, escape or help.
Hawaii - because she wanted to and because it could escape joe ryan. Personally, I’ve always thought Hawaii. Maybe it has something to do with me, or my avatar. But my question with Hawaii is why Kauai? I’ve personally been there and to Maui. I’m not sure why someone chooses to live on Kauai over a bigger island. Yes it’s gorgeous, yes there is lots to see and yes it is probably the most lush, with hidden waterfalls, canyons, trails, and gorgeous coastline. Things are more expensive there. But I think there is a reason she chose Kauai. I’m not sure what it is, but knowing her, it was that SOMEONE could do something for her. Did she know people living there? Did Tylee? Did they have a great deal on a rental or did they just like the ward/stake, or did they even attend? Did she have a history there? Did she go there as a child? Does she have people that can help her there?
Have her doomsday beliefs taken over and they are in a bunker somewhere? I’m pretty sure I heard a famous author talking about a nonprofit foundation and having some bunkers. What I don’t get about this though is that there aren’t “others” missing. If they truly believe they are to gather the 144k, why aren’t they? Honestly, I just don’t know what to think. I don’t know if this is about beliefs or running from crimes.
I do think Lori and Chad are together. Lori is NEVER without a man. BUT— I’m confused by IF LE know where they are. I don’t understand why there isn’t a warrant for their arrest yet LE says they believe the kids are in danger.
I do not think the kids are alive. I don’t think they could be brainwashed this long without contacting someone. The only way that could happen- them not contacting someone- is if they are being held in not great conditions. Otherwise, I see one or both running away, sneaking out, sneaking a phone, etc. Think about it, in order for them to be ok with not contacting anyone or being seen and reported this long, 4 months, is that they are completely sold on the idea, or completely prevented from doing so. IMHO both of those ideas would be very difficult to accomplish with these kids. How do you sell them on staying quiet-threats, promises, fear and worse? And preventing them would have to be something like restraining them. Locking them in a cellar or bunker, without escape. Both ideas are horrid to think about.
I think it’s possible that Lori poisoned the kids and Alex took them to the desert after. I think that would be a logical explanation for Alex to either be killed or to commit suicide.
One thing I feel certain about- MOO Lori will not get gray roots. And, honestly as “the conquest exhilaration” fades, I see her quickly tiring of Chad. If I were Chad, I would be very concerned.
It was from the GH Youtube when he was reading the text exchange with Lori's family member/friend? (doesn't say who but I think I know who it is) She mentioned it in reference to what she thought happened to the kids. Alex took Lori's dogs, the ones Charles had given, out to the desert. Min: 29:40Can anyone remember or link any details on Alex taking dogs to desert? I’m wondering where, and which desert.
I'd also think away from Texas (even though Texas is huge) because it's closer to those from whom I think she's keeping JJ and Tylee (Kay and Larry).Arizona and Texas might be on the table for destinations as well-- although I think Lori would want to stay out of AZ due to the multiple death investigations going on there.