Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #15

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Nothing we have seen indicates his children hate him. I am hoping that Maxxor might have some factual information at some point, but i do not believe we have heard a peep about his kids.
I wonder if they had seen his wedding photos before they were plastered all over the news. I guess not. Two weeks and a couple of days after Tammy's death and playing the ukulele!
 
I can see that too but she paid Oct, Nov, and Dec didn't she? It was only the January payment that got refused which could be the probate if it was a card on a joint or business account. If you were using it as a dumpster then you'd only pay one month surely?
I still feel there might have been a reason to keep those items specifically to be picked up by someone to take to children later. We know from LW and KW just how important that little scooter was, and all the pictures on the blankets--one of a kind, and probably very special to the kids. I do not think this was a dumpster situation at all. By Dec, there was lots of scuttlebut in the air, so they were prob afraid to continue with whatever plan was in the winds. And obviously in January everything exploded, so no way could a simple earlier plan work. Obviously none of my tumbling tumbleweed discussion addresses the removal of the heavy stuff and the in-and-out tire.... but still there could have been some simple reasons for the use of the storage unit.
 
Do you think they still have their passports then? I figured they wouldn't. If the search warrant took their phones and purse contents don't you think the passports were confiscated too? I suppose it is irrelevent as the latest article from Nate says FBI and LE would be tracking their movements anyway.

did CD travel internationally for his books or talks? Lots of State movement, but did Lori ever go out of the country. I know we assume they have passports, but is their any possibility that they don't even have passports???????
 
Charles owned a small business.
Of note, Charles was a financial planner in his 60s. I would think he would have some $$$ saved. By law, retirement accounts must be separate, so it would be in his name alone. Many plans actually require the spouse be the beneficiary. I think she would be exempt from the early withdrawal penalty since she inherited the plan, but she would have to pay taxes on the amount as income. She might have withheld an estimated tax from her withdrawal to avoid the tax burden coming due in April. She doesn’t strike me as one who files taxes on her own. This could be a source of money she is living on. If she doesn’t file taxes and had any income at or above $12,200 in 2019, and doesn’t report it, the IRS can build a case. I bet Charles listed her as an employee since she had access to his business account. This would have covered both her and the kids health insurance. That baggie of cash she carries around may do her in.
 
I was pointing this out in response to a comment that appeared to be thinking in terms of a retirement plan that would be typical for a medium or large corporation, not a small business with at most a handful of employees like what Charles had. As for how much income he had, he at least claimed in one document I saw here (or linked to from here) that he was claiming to have and income of 20K per month. That's not as good as what Chad and Lori claimed, but is more believable too.
hmmmm... I find this a bit strange, for the second time... Most people with money don't refer to their wealth "by the month", they say 100K or 150K or whatever. I thought this when "by the month" was stated by CD. I remember once, when I tried being part of an MLM business for some extra side money (that I swore was not a MLM...ha ha ha)., that's how recruiters and motivators talked...But not really the way people who do have some wealth tal Unless its a real Western thing... IMHO...
 
Of note, Charles was a financial planner in his 60s. I would think he would have some $$$ saved. By law, retirement accounts must be separate, so it would be in his name alone. Many plans actually require the spouse be the beneficiary. I think she would be exempt from the early withdrawal penalty since she inherited the plan, but she would have to pay taxes on the amount as income. She might have withheld an estimated tax from her withdrawal to avoid the tax burden coming due in April. She doesn’t strike me as one who files taxes on her own. This could be a source of money she is living on. If she doesn’t file taxes and had any income at or above $12,200 in 2019, and doesn’t report it, the IRS can build a case. I bet Charles listed her as an employee since she had access to his business account. This would have covered both her and the kids health insurance. That baggie of cash she carries around may do her in.
Charles also could have named his retirement account in his Living Trust as beneficiary at least you can do that in AZ. Seems he is savvy enough to set up his estate that way.
 
did CD travel internationally for his books or talks? Lots of State movement, but did Lori ever go out of the country. I know we assume they have passports, but is their any possibility that they don't even have passports???????

That's why I asked the same thing. We've heard they were heading to Mexico awhile back. What exactly is our proof? I'm to the point they could have got tickets to mess with people. Jmo
 
I haven't read the last 60 pages, so if i'm behind on this comment, please excuse: If Lori off'd the children to protect them from going through the "end of times experience," is the video at the storage facility more important with the moving of the heavy totes? And did anyone read anywhere that LE attempted dog use at the storage facility? In the Kelsey Berreth case, the dogs were able to hit on the place where the perp stored the tote holding her body.
We all keep asking if any cadaver dogs were brought in.... but think LE is just keeping anything about this close to the vest, if they did.
 
I still feel there might have been a reason to keep those items specifically to be picked up by someone to take to children later. We know from LW and KW just how important that little scooter was, and all the pictures on the blankets--one of a kind, and probably very special to the kids. I do not think this was a dumpster situation at all. By Dec, there was lots of scuttlebut in the air, so they were prob afraid to continue with whatever plan was in the winds. And obviously in January everything exploded, so no way could a simple earlier plan work. Obviously none of my tumbling tumbleweed discussion addresses the removal of the heavy stuff and the in-and-out tire.... but still there could have been some simple reasons for the use of the storage unit.

Agreed. If Lori knew she would be traveling but not coming back to the home, she might put treasured possessions in a storage. What is the status of the house she was living in prior? Did she own or rent? A storage unit is more affordable than a house/apartment. And there would be no need to bring those things to Hawaii as the kids were not coming with her. This indicates to me that, at some point, she planned to come back or the preppers who have the kids were going to retrieve the items. Probably after the July 2020 date they believe catastrophe will strike.
 
hmmmm... I find this a bit strange, for the second time... Most people with money don't refer to their wealth "by the month", they say 100K or 150K or whatever. I thought this when "by the month" was stated by CD. I remember once, when I tried being part of an MLM business for some extra side money (that I swore was not a MLM...ha ha ha)., that's how recruiters and motivators talked...But not really the way people who do have some wealth tal Unless its a real Western thing... IMHO...

I think it's because CD's is referenced from a rental application that usually goes month to month. CV's listing is from family court documents and in my experience a the monthly income is usually used to determine maintenance in the calculators.
 
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261311"]hmmmm... I find this a bit strange, for the second time... Most people with money don't refer to their wealth "by the month", they say 100K or 150K or whatever. I thought this when "by the month" was stated by CD. I remember once, when I tried being part of an MLM business for some extra side money (that I swore was not a MLM...ha ha ha)., that's how recruiters and motivators talked...But not really the way people who do have some wealth tal Unless its a real Western thing... IMHO...

I think it's because CD's is referenced from a rental application that usually goes month to month. CV's listing is from family court documents and in my experience a the monthly income is usually used to determine maintenance in the calculators.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what I did there?
 
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