IL - 4 in custody after man tortured on Facebook Live, Chicago, Jan 2017 *GRAPHIC*

[BigCityAccountant]

Was that Conestoga hs? Yes that's near me. Plea deal [emoji35]


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Did LE try to marginalize it like they did in this case at first? They should have gotten the same punishment as these 4. Sorry never heard of the case, but I would be just as outraged about that as well. Like the judge said in this case, Where was their sense of decency?

 

[Elley Mae]

So looking this up last night I came across a story I hadn't even heard, about the 3 white football players that beat and sodomized the black special needs student and got off Scott free? What the hell is wrong with kids? I can't even, it makes me want to sob my heart out.


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I do wonder what you searched to come up with a case that is almost 2 years old? And it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. jmo idk

edit to add. Not trying to be snarky but it ends up derailing the thread, (topic) and becomes confusing. jmo

 

[Elley Mae]

Was that Conestoga hs? Yes that's near me. Plea deal [emoji35]


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no, unless the name was changed.


Hoping to get back on topic.



Dietrich High School

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/john-...ape-black-teammate-tanner-ward-notorious-kkk/

also at this link, his(victim) adopted father was under scrutiny for his teachings at the same school

 

[Elley Mae]

When she lost contact with her son, she tracked down the classmate. He asked for a $300 ransom for her son’s safe return, Cook County prosecutors said Friday at a court hearing that laid out new details in a racially charged kidnapping case that has garnered international attention.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/no-bond-for-four-in-videotaped-attack/

Assistant Public Defender Wendy Fawcett, representing Cooper and Hill, said that Hill had lived most of his life with his grandmother, who is indigent and unable to attend the hearing. Cooper’s brother, Twin Carder, was thrown out of the courtroom as his brother was led into the courtroom by sheriff’s deputies.

Outside the courthouse, Carder said he had tried to tell his brother he would cover his bond.

“He ain’t meant to do that,” Carder said of the abuse. “He was under the influence — high, drunk, whatever he was doing. The dude was one of his friends, knew him. ‘Sposed to be, anyway.”

 

[strawberry]

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Did LE try to marginalize it like they did in this case at first? They should have gotten the same punishment as these 4. Sorry never heard of the case, but I would be just as outraged about that as well. Like the judge said in this case, Where was their sense of decency?

Oh no it was big news around here

http://www.dailylocal.com/general-n...eniors-charged-after-no-gay-thursday-incident

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20160305_DA__3_charged_in_Conestoga_hazing_incident.html?mobi=true


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[BigCityAccountant]

When she lost contact with her son, she tracked down the classmate. He asked for a $300 ransom for her son’s safe return, Cook County prosecutors said Friday at a court hearing that laid out new details in a racially charged kidnapping case that has garnered international attention.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/no-bond-for-four-in-videotaped-attack/

Assistant Public Defender Wendy Fawcett, representing Cooper and Hill, said that Hill had lived most of his life with his grandmother, who is indigent and unable to attend the hearing. Cooper’s brother, Twin Carder, was thrown out of the courtroom as his brother was led into the courtroom by sheriff’s deputies.

Outside the courthouse, Carder said he had tried to tell his brother he would cover his bond.

“He ain’t meant to do that,” Carder said of the abuse. “He was under the influence — high, drunk, whatever he was doing. The dude was one of his friends, knew him. ‘Sposed to be, anyway.”

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With friends like that~~who needs enemies.

 

[drjones]

no, unless the name was changed.


Hoping to get back on topic.



Dietrich High School

http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/john-...ape-black-teammate-tanner-ward-notorious-kkk/

also at this link, his(victim) adopted father was under scrutiny for his teachings at the same school

there was news regarding this story just a few weeks ago and it was all over the news, it is very on-topic and has been brought up in relation to this story basically anywhere it is being discussed.

its interesting that you included the part about the victims adopted father tho, what relevance does that have to the thread or story?.

 

[zencompass]

So looking this up last night I came across a story I hadn't even heard, about the 3 white football players that beat and sodomized the black special needs student and got off Scott free? What the hell is wrong with kids? I can't even, it makes me want to sob my heart out.


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Hi Chirpcheep,

The case you refer to:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ex-idaho-hs-football-player-pleads-not-guilty-coat-hanger-case-article-1.2783422

There is a thread concerning this on Websleuths:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?309237-ID-Rape-Allegation-Race-Glare-of-National-Media-Divide-Town

The town gets paid big money for their school because of football players.

Money and power kept these vile football players from having police records. It is so obvious that all of the officials involved
decided that the reputation of the school was far more important than justice. After all, the money that came into that school and area was dependent on the reputation of the school for football players to attend from other regions. Awful, but that is how
they operate when money and power is concerned.

I am so glad that you mentioned this case, especially because there is evidence (plenty) that this was a hate crime as well as other charges which, in another town, would certainly have been laid. In my opinion.

 

[zencompass]

The topic of hate crimes needs to be discussed, and often, in my opinion.

 

[strawberry]

Hi Chirpcheep,

The case you refer to:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ex-idaho-hs-football-player-pleads-not-guilty-coat-hanger-case-article-1.2783422

There is a thread concerning this on Websleuths:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?309237-ID-Rape-Allegation-Race-Glare-of-National-Media-Divide-Town

The town gets paid big money for their school because of football players.

Money and power kept these vile football players from having police records. It is so obvious that all of the officials involved
decided that the reputation of the school was far more important than justice. After all, the money that came into that school and area was dependent on the reputation of the school for football players to attend from other regions. Awful, but that is how
they operate when money and power is concerned.

I am so glad that you mentioned this case, especially because there is evidence (plenty) that this was a hate crime as well as other charges which, in another town, would certainly have been laid. In my opinion.

Oh sorry I had the wrong case. The one I mentioned was just in the news the other day. Sorry for the mixup


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[Dogface]

Honestly, in the other case, I feel as we(a collective we, those of us who advocate for victims) really dropped the ball. Those twisted criminals should be sitting in prison. Not playing football.

 

[zencompass]

I have this gut feeling that if the neighbor hadn't called the police then this young person would have been murdered.

As it is, he may never get over this. I felt terrified just listening to the video let alone watching it. I couldn't watch much more than a minute or two of it but I listened a bit more.

I feel badly for his parents who thought he was being invited over to a sleepover at a friend's. There sure was some planning involved in this. Horrible.

Just my opinion.

Judge Refuses to Release 4 Accused of Beating Shown on Facebook Live

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-refuses-release-4-accused-beating-shown-facebook-live-n704226

 

[zencompass]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-refuses-release-4-accused-beating-shown-facebook-live-n704226

"Judge Refuses to Release 4 Accused of Beating Shown on Facebook Live"

"A prosecutor told the judge that the suspects forced the victim to drink toilet water, kiss the floor and then allegedly stuffed a sock into his mouth and taped it shut as they bound his hands with a belt."

Individuals have suffocated due to objects (socks) in their mouth.

 

[JeannaT]

Didn't the public defender say Cooper had a twin brother he helps out with, who is in a wheelchair?

The Sun-Times article shows his twin brother, Carder, and there is no wheelchair that I could see. So, it's like the defense couldn't find one single true positive thing to say about Cooper.

 

[strawberry]

Didn't the public defender say Cooper had a twin brother he helps out with, who is in a wheelchair?

The Sun-Times article shows his twin brother, Carder, and there is no wheelchair that I could see. So, it's like the defense couldn't find one single true positive thing to say about Cooper.

That confused me too


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[katydid23]

Didn't the public defender say Cooper had a twin brother he helps out with, who is in a wheelchair?

The Sun-Times article shows his twin brother, Carder, and there is no wheelchair that I could see. So, it's like the defense couldn't find one single true positive thing to say about Cooper.

Maybe thats not his twin but is a different brother?

 

[DropthePuck]

Didn't the public defender say Cooper had a twin brother he helps out with, who is in a wheelchair?

The Sun-Times article shows his twin brother, Carder, and there is no wheelchair that I could see. So, it's like the defense couldn't find one single true positive thing to say about Cooper.

I think this brother's name is Twin Carder and he's not actually Cooper's twin brother that the public defender was referring to. According to the article, "Cooper, she said, lived in Cicero with his mother and six siblings, including a paralyzed brother whose care Cooper helped provide"

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/no-bond-for-four-in-videotaped-attack/

 

[strawberry]

I think this brother's name is Twin Carder and he's not actually Cooper's twin brother that the public defender was referring to. According to the article, "Cooper, she said, lived in Cicero with his mother and six siblings, including a paralyzed brother whose care Cooper helped provide"

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/no-bond-for-four-in-videotaped-attack/

That explains it


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[JeannaT]

I think this brother's name is Twin Carder and he's not actually Cooper's twin brother that the public defender was referring to. According to the article, "Cooper, she said, lived in Cicero with his mother and six siblings, including a paralyzed brother whose care Cooper helped provide"

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/no-bond-for-four-in-videotaped-attack/

So Cooper has a twin brother who's in a wheelchair, and he also has a brother whose NAME is Twin?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-parents-texts-beating-video-found-44597327

 

[chirpcheep]

I do wonder what you searched to come up with a case that is almost 2 years old? And it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. jmo idk

edit to add. Not trying to be snarky but it ends up derailing the thread, (topic) and becomes confusing. jmo

Sorry, I was reading a article on this case and a link to the quote I spoke about was in the article, I mentioned it because it is VERY similar circumstances apart from the fact that the skin colour is swapped around. Didn't mean to take attention away from the case at hand sorry about that.


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