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LE will not let this go public :banghead: but I will add I can understand why.
Yes I said earlier here, I know MY cell bill comes monthly with a list/log of EVERY call in & out and every text message, in & out for ALL the 5 persons on my family plan. I have to think the bill came in at least once, maybe twice for Beths cell.
Bank statements and credit card statements came in as well, and charges from that weekend should show up on any bill or statement- wouldn't have to wait for LE to expose those now.
Info on fb regarding the phone in the discussion area. Link above. Too long and too detailed to paraphrase. <mod edit>
Not an attack on you Paschein, so please don't take it that way...
but it just strikes me as incredibly odd that, although LE is not releasing ANY info publicly...
just about everyone who knows anyone involved, even a little, seems to have some tidbit of confidential information they cannot share.
It just makes me wonder who's going around telling this information to all of these people... if LE has advised them not to?
Unless they are immediate family, or have been interviewed by LE... someone, somewhere along the way, has given out information that LE has instructed them not to, no?
I can't recall hearing the police ever tell someone "Keep that information confidential... well, except for your friends, and your friend's friends..."
I would think if it is confidential, it's probably for a reason, and giving that information out could actually hinder the investigation, if the wrong people found out about it.
No offense meant to anyone... just pointing out another strange aspect of this very odd case.
So funny you should mention that. My friend asked JW about the boat ride on Saturday on Rend Lake. I believe there has been no discussion of WHO exactly was on that boat up until now. JW told my friend that it was Beth, JW, RR, NR and two other males.
2 gals/4 guys??????.......This is where IMOO the Match.com & AFF earlier theories of profiles advertising may just possibly be relevant; to revisit this top secret touchy area of speculation MOO - 1/2 a dozen RED FLAGS!!!
How can JW know every guy that Beth slept with and provide the LE with their names..................
While SB thinks BB is with JW in WI because she doesn't like to drive alone to see her sick grandmother (that BTW has the sick grandchild) ...... And this couple talked several times a day/said ILY 20+ times a day (these particular days??) ......MOO - Layers & Groups of Ludicrous RED FLAGS!!
I'd like to see her phone if she even made one call to Beth to see where she was, or did she just leave? Could be a very big clue to determine whether JW knows more than she's saying.
IMO The phones & locations will all come out in the wash after the investigation is complete and/or sooner if any updated press releases appear......MOO another dozen RED FLAGS
In my opinion, JW was a willing participant to cover and lie for Beth all the time, so it's logical to me that she would lie if she had something to hide. Her story makes no sense, Her story has changed.
You are Always Thinking Always Thinking!!!!!
I wonder if JW is on WS reading all this as a guest?
Great post r131313, but there is one thing ... The LE does not only provide info to immediate family. The LE will provide info to anybody SB tells them to, which may include someone outside the immediate family. So in all reality, Paschein may be authorized to receive info directly from the LE regarding the case, not saying that Paschein is authorized, I don't know who she is, but, it is possible that she has been authorized by SB to receive info.
We would all welcome JW to join WS, as long as she would be properly verified.
All comments are my opinion & reaction
Frosty Mug Is NOT a hole in the wall! Very clean place with great food and good people! Beth was there Friday night before she went missing with 3 other people. One of the guys was under age and the waitress would NOT serve him. Don't know who the young guy and NOt saying anything negitive about Beth this is just a fact!
Kinda sad but posters are down in a lot of places in Mt Vernon and people forget about Beth. I was willing to help <snip> Thanks for the welcome!
With regards to LE not letting this go public and you understand why. Is that because of speculation or something you know but were told in confidence and can not share? I'm asking not to 'flaunt' you have info yu can't share but a simple yes LE knows or not kind of thing. IMO, a simple yes or no will speak volumes if members are putting the pieces of the puzzle together in their mind.
Where is the link that the drop off time has been changed to between 5 & 7? If it has been stated as late as 7 and that is confirmed versus 'rumor' that speaks a lot too, because it would be proof JW lied to LE about the train, no?
I'm going to bet it was BB that paid for the pontoon boat rental on Saturday. I'd be very very interested to know what CC or DC purchases Beth made on Sunday. I'm sure they did not use cash all weekend so LE must have a timeline of where they were and what they did that weekend. I sure as heck would be interested to know if there is any cc or dc activity on BB's cards after that 4:15 phone call to SB. NO WHERE has it been stated the last DC or CC activity for Beth was at 4:15. IIRC LE only said there was no phone or cc activity after BB was reported missing and that was not until late Monday evening IIRC. (IIRC is 'if I recall correctly' in case anyone is wondering.)
Thinking along the lines of what is not said and what has not been made public I'm going to lean heavily on the side of LE building a strong case and figuring out what happened - even if Beth has not yet been located and JW has been fully forthcoming and honest about the events of the weekend.
Think of it this way. SB is an attorney. He has some sort of working relationship with LE in the area as well as judges in the area by way of his business and the clients he represents. Attornies, LE and Judges all do a little give and take. They all do a little negotiating and compromising here and there. I can't for a minute think LE would not take that into consideration working Beths case. After all, they all need to maintain their business 'relationships'. There could be future cases LE is working on where SB is the clients attorney and they may wish to negotiate a deal on certain things..... The last thing they would want to do is let poor LE work on this case become a wrench in future dealings.... (within the law of course. I am not insinuating in any way things are being done outside the law. Just the usual we work together and any one in that network could be asking for favors or willing to negotiate X for Y or vice versa at some point.)
Hope that makes sense...... but I see LE doing extra hard work for someone within the judicial community.
JMHO
... (while with) friend, I asked specifically about the boat ride, and if NR was on it. She said he was, along with Beth, RR, JW and two other guys. ...
Welcome to WS soillinois. Thank you for your interest in Beths case.
I think JW's boyfriends younger brother NR is under 21. It might have been him who was not served. Hopefully one of the verified members can let me know if I am correct assuming NR is not yet 21.
Thank you on the info on the Frosty Mug. If I may ask are you an employee there or a customer?
Again, thanks for the info and welcome to WS.
Cubby