GUILTY IL - Benjamin Kingan, 16 mos, dies of head injury, Lincolnshire, 14 Jan 2009

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I am sickened that a mentally challenged person was railroaded, evidence was supressed, and an innocent person has had 6 years of her life destroyed.

I understand the need to do what ya gotta do to win your case. But when you manipulate the truth and bury evidence, shame on you.

Things like this make me really hope karma is a real concept.
 
Possibly, a case for negliglence could be made against someone/the facility for not monitoring him more closely and stopping this behavior or cushioning the flooring.

but it was the daycare people that originally noticed the wound and reported it to the parents. they also reported him being lethargic.

the parents took him to the family doctor and somehow, someway, that doctor delcared nothing was wrong with benjamin. that a 4 by 4 skull wound to an infant wasnt important. he also claimed at trial the baby's head was forming normally, which we now know isnt true. so there's severe medical malpractice going on here at the least.



so many lives destoyed, and poor benjamin is gone. and a young woman's life destroyed for nothing. the oringal episode of 48 hours (before the x-ray revelation) said his parents still think melissa is guilty.

i wonder if they have changed their minds.
 
if the new ME hadnt looked at this slides the first time im guessing we'd all still be in the dark on this one.
 
but it was the daycare people that originally noticed the wound and reported it to the parents. they also reported him being lethargic.

the parents took him to the family doctor and somehow, someway, that doctor delcared nothing was wrong with benjamin. that a 4 by 4 skull wound to an infant wasnt important. he also claimed at trial the baby's head was forming normally, which we now know isnt true. so there's severe medical malpractice going on here at the least.



so many lives destoyed, and poor benjamin is gone. and a young woman's life destroyed for nothing. the oringal episode of 48 hours (before the x-ray revelation) said his parents still think melissa is guilty.

i wonder if they have changed their minds.

Parents did settle a lawsuit with the daycare, presumably based on a premise that Melissa is guilty. As such I am not counting on the parents declaring they changed their minds.
 
if the new ME hadnt looked at this slides the first time im guessing we'd all still be in the dark on this one.

The woman is still sitting in prison. And it's not clear if she is even going to get out any time soon.
 
Just watched Melissa's update on 48 Hours. I have never once believed this woman to be guilty, but at this point keeping her incarcerated is just absolutely ridiculous.


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i dont know how much longer the state can justify the conviction.

the Medical witnesses coming forward are under no alliegence or payment by melissa, her family or zellner....in fact one of them works for the county itself...and the evidence is seemingly fullproof that she is innocent.

as to the parents, i think their may be other reasons why they wont change their minds other then the lawsuit but i wont get into that. (TOS)
 
i dont know how much longer the state can justify the conviction.

the Medical witnesses coming forward are under no alliegence or payment by melissa, her family or zellner....in fact one of them works for the county itself...and the evidence is seemingly fullproof that she is innocent.

as to the parents, i think their may be other reasons why they wont change their minds other then the lawsuit but i wont get into that. (TOS)

The state is going to owe this poor woman hugely when her conviction is finally overturned. Perhaps that's why everyone is dragging their feet? I'm relieved at least, that she's in the hands of an incredibly capable lawyer.

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a lot of people have a lot to answer for when this is over.

just think about these things.......

dr choi conducted an autopsy that was completley phony. there was no 'new injury.' no fractured skull. no 'one to two story fall'. for some unknown reason the old 'considerable injury' he will write about 4 years later doesnt even make it into the autopsy. nor will his malformed skull. he tells this to the detectives who are interrogating melissa and other daycare employees.
these detectives use these lies to bully, isolate, corner and coerce melissa into a confession to something that never happened, not by her, not by anyone.
the police and the DA leak the false info about the autopsy to the press. they also leak what is convienent about melissa's 'confession'. they dont mention the 10 hour duration, the 79 denials, melissa's lack of sleep, confsuion, the amount of bullying involved, the fact that the 'confession' doesnt match even their bogus autopsy results..
the police and the DA then release the coup de grace.....they say that little benjamin 'after being slammed to the ground, grabbed his blankie, his pacifer and crawled to his comfy chair.' (in reality he was probably happilly in his chair until the wound he accidentally reinjured with his head banging killed him)

benjamin is dead only 3 days at this point. but its over. she's already convicted in the media and the public with this barrage of what is in actuality, utter nonsense. her lawyers will fight fruitlessly to prove the confession was coerced, and that the medical injuries from 3 months earlier were the route cause of his death.......but neither the jury or the public in general will believe it.

everyone wanted blood. google this case and find articles from 2009 and you will find the most horrible things said about her, most based on her myspace page (where she talks about how much she loves kids and her job in daycare) and her mug shot (how the heck would we look if we hadnt slept in 2 days and spent 10 hours in an interrogation room with ruthless police?)

the question is....WHY? why did they need a patsy in this case? why did they need this to be a homicide at all?

maybe because if the real autopsy came out people would start asking questions.

what caused the hemoraging and skull malformation in late october 2008?

if they believed, that at that point, the parents or someonelse at the daycare (at which time melissa was not working at yet) were responsible, then wouldnt they be under arrest?

why did the kingans doctor lie on the stand about benjamin being healthy right up to the last day? why did he not notice the skull wound or the malformation, or think that it was important?

even if the cause of benjamins death is in actuality, medical malpractice, why would the state cover THAT up?
 
the hearing for a new trial motion is monday.

praying to god someone in the SA's office or the judge sees reason and ends this without even another trial......
 
judge didnt dismiss the motion.
juge gave state 90 days to reply to motion.

if judge rules in defense favor, they get an evidentery hearing to determine whether this constitutes a new trial.

and that wouldnt take place till spring.

what a waste of time this is. good grief, this isnt even listed as a murder. how do you justify a murder conviction?

its good news for the defense so far but this is all so time consuming and pointless. going on 7 years of her life wasted for nothing.
 
This is so sad :( This has happened far too many times. A lot of "shaken baby syndrome" cases have been overturned too, but many people must still be sat in prison for something they did not do :( The prosecution always make these emotive statements about how the injury was comparable to being thrown from a second story building or whatever - just think about that for a second! How is a slight woman going to create such a horrific injury in a child by slamming them on the ground??

An Irish nanny has just had similar charges against her dropped, after spending a long time in jail and being vilified by the press. Here's the thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...tally-beating-Rehma-Sabir-on-her-1st-birthday


Info about shaken baby syndrome:
In 2012, Dr. A. Norman Guthkelch, the neurosurgeon often credited with "discovering" the diagnosis of [Shaken Baby Syndrome],[53] published an article "after 40 years of consideration," which is harshly critical of shaken baby prosecutions based solely on the triad of injuries.[54] Again, in 2012, Dr. Guthkelch stated in an interview, "I think we need to go back to the drawing board and make a more thorough assessment of these fatal cases, and I am going to bet . . . that we are going to find in every - or at least the large majority of cases, the child had another severe illness of some sort which was missed until too late
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaken_baby_syndrome#Legal_issues


Here's a good article from 2011:
We analyzed nearly two dozen cases in the United States and Canada in which people have been accused of killing children based on flawed or biased work by forensic pathologists, and then later cleared.

Some spent years in prison before courts overturned their convictions. In 2004, San Diego prosecutors moved to dismiss charges against a man who'd been imprisoned for two decades for murdering his girlfriend's son....

The thinking of doctors has undergone a radical change. Patrick Barnes, a pediatric radiologist at Stanford University, was a key prosecution witness in what is arguably the most famous shaken-baby case of all, the trial of Louise Woodward. Woodward was a 19-year-old nanny charged in 1997 with shaking an 8-month-old baby to death, hitting his head and causing fatal bleeding. With Barnes' help, the jury found Woodward guilty of second-degree murder. (She was ultimately released after serving less than a year in prison, when a judge reduced her charge to manslaughter.)

Barnes said he wouldn't give the same testimony today. There's been a "revolution" in the understanding of head injuries in the past decade, in part due to advances in MRI brain scanning technology, he said. "We started realizing there were a number of medical conditions that can affect a baby's brain and look like the findings that we used to attribute to shaken baby syndrome or child abuse," Barnes said...

Thogmartin said the charged emotions inevitably triggered by a child's death add another layer of complexity. Forensic pathologists, in his view, can get "caught up in the anger, the emotion, the despair." Their mindset can become prosecutorial, Thogmartin said, until every child death is a "homicide until proven otherwise."
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/28/137454415/the-child-cases-guilty-until-proven-innocent?ft=1&f=1001
 
thanks for posting that rayemonde.

the worst part of this is there was no skull fracture. and no 'one to two story fall' that was all made up by the previous ME all together. there's no 'mistake' here. she was set up to take a fall for something she not only didnt do, but probably never happened. :(
 
i would like to hear from those who crucified her in the beginning of this thread, years ago.

have you changed your mind on her case?

the sad thing is the way the prosecution laid out there case from day one, was manipulative of both the press and public. none of it was true.....but its easy to see.......the 'grabbed his blankie and pacifier and crawled to his bouncy chair'...........she could have had the desired videotape (whatever happened to benjamin's law anyways? guess that vanished too) of her actions showing she didnt do anything but try to help him and people would still have convicted her.

JMO
 
Thing is, "something" happened to this child months prior to the day he died. If I remember correctly from the link here somewhere, he woke up from his nap at DAYCARE with a large bump on his head. Could "head banging", banging his own head, cause such a massive injury in the first place, the one that was exacerbated a second time and killed him?

While I don't believe Melissa is guilty of anything, she wasn't even there, "something" DID happen and I believe we should get to the bottom of it, even if the cause is/was head banging. At the very least, "head banging" should be looked into seriously IF it can cause death.

My opinion only
 
Thing is, "something" happened to this child months prior to the day he died. If I remember correctly from the link here somewhere, he woke up from his nap at DAYCARE with a large bump on his head. Could "head banging", banging his own head, cause such a massive injury in the first place, the one that was exacerbated a second time and killed him?

While I don't believe Melissa is guilty of anything, she wasn't even there, "something" DID happen and I believe we should get to the bottom of it, even if the cause is/was head banging. At the very least, "head banging" should be looked into seriously IF it can cause death.

My opinion only

the original injury causes alot of questions that while it exonerates melissa from even possibly being involved, could implicate a good many others......if we dont believe headbanging caused the original wound then a) either someonelse at the daycare caused the original wound b) someone in his family did and it didnt show up till he was at daycare (it was the daycare people who reported it to the parents, who took him to the doctor who repeatedlly said he was 'fine') or there's medical incompetence going on here (how can the family doctor not know how serious a wound he had? and why did he/she lie on the witnes stand about it?) or it could be a combination of any of those things.

JMO
 
A coworker adopted a child who had spent significant time in an orphanage and banged his head as a result. Even after she got him home, he would raise lumps on his head the size of golf balls. It was like this kid could not feel that he was hurting himself. So I know for a fact that a kid will give themselves raised bumps from banging their own head.
 

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