IL - Kenneka Jenkins, 19, found dead in hotel freezer, Rosemont, 10 Sept 2017 #1

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Did people see her stumbling around??

I don't know about people seeing her stumbling around. I was referring to the person checking the security cameras.

 

[JaimeInLA]

This kitchen was not in use. It was in a part of the hotel that was being renovated.

I realize that. My question was not is that the freezer she was found in. My question was -- this appears to be the freezer in the main kitchen. Would the freezer she was found in have an entry system similar to this one?

Obviously this is not the construction area. All of the lights are on in the middle of the night. A construction area/closed part of the hotel would be dark, not lit up like daylight.

 

[Gardener1850]

I know the freezer in which she was found was in a construction area. But this does not appear to be a construction area. It looks like a normal functioning kitchen. I don't see any evidence at all of construction. This looks like the main kitchen. It is massive. There is no way that hotel has two full kitchens this size. It looks to me like she is wandering through the main kitchen before winding up in the area that was under construction.

This is not just a hotel it is a huge conference center as well. According to their website they have 55,000 Sq Ft of Meeting Space alone and one of the meeting rooms can seat 3000 people. I'm pretty sure they would have more than one kitchen. They list 3 restaurants on site as well: https://www.ihg.com/crowneplaza/hot...ok/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=YextLocal-_-USA-_-CHIOK

 

[JaimeInLA]

It's been said a couple of times that this was an employee area or was having construction (or both), so this wasn't a main kitchen, and didn't appear to be in use at this time.

Actually, now that I think about it, we do know this is the main kitchen. They told us that there were no cameras on the back up freezer in which she was found. There are very clearly cameras on these freezers. So this has to be the main kitchen, since it has cameras.

Does this help us? I'm not sure. I would presume the freezers were all ordered at the same time and have similar handles to get in, but I guess it's possible that they are different.

 

[iliketotalk15]

Actually, now that I think about it, we do know this is the main kitchen. They told us that there were no cameras on the back up freezer in which she was found. There are very clearly cameras on these freezers. So this has to be the main kitchen, since it has cameras.

Does this help us? I'm not sure. I would presume the freezers were all ordered at the same time and have similar handles to get in, but I guess it's possible that they are different.

They could have meant no cameras on the freezer she went into, meaning that quite literally. Yes, we have her on camera, but no camera showing her going into the freezer.

ETA: I think I'm confused on which freezer you are referring to now, since you are talking about two different freezers?

 

[Satchie]

She wasn't wandering for very long: according to CNN the released surveillance shows:

3:25 am seen exiting the elevator alone
3:32 am walks out of view of surveillance camera in the kitchen.

Her friends called her mother about 4 am, so she hadn't been missing very long.

She'd been seen on surveillance video walking with friends (perhaps just arrived) at 1:13 am. Only 2 hours later she was barely functional, another reason to suspect drugs rather than simply alcohol, although different people have different levels of tolerance.

 

[JaimeInLA]

This is not just a hotel it is a huge conference center as well. According to their website they have 55,000 Sq Ft of Meeting Space alone and one of the meeting rooms can seat 3000 people. I'm pretty sure they would have more than one kitchen. They list 3 restaurants on site as well: https://www.ihg.com/crowneplaza/hot...ok/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=YextLocal-_-USA-_-CHIOK

This is interesting. This says that they have two restaurants, both on the ground floor.

It also says they have 24 hour room service.

So we know that there is at least one kitchen on the ground floor that two restaurants share. OR there are two kitchens on the ground floor.

We know

one was under construction and closed off and not being used. We also know that one had no cameras.

The kitchen she is seen walking through does have cameras, which show freezers. Therefore, that has to be the functioning kitchen.

Where are the 24 hour room service staff?

I must be missing something.

(This feels like "if a train leaves Cleveland, going 35 miles an hour, and a train leaves Philadelphia on the same track, heading towards Cleveland and going 60 mph..." LOL. I was always terrible at those. I need somebody to just tell me what happened!)

 

[Gardener1850]

I realize that. My question was not is that the freezer she was found in. My question was -- this appears to be the freezer in the main kitchen. Would the freezer she was found in have an entry system similar to this one?

Obviously this is not the construction area. All of the lights are on in the middle of the night. A construction area/closed part of the hotel would be dark, not lit up like daylight.

If you are talking about in this video: [video=twitter;908871965703892992]https://twitter.com/AudrinaBigos/status/908871965703892992[/video]

Notice in the lower right hand corner there is a cart of some sort with a tarp and what looks like a paint bucket on it. Not sure what you are seeing that you think is a walk in freezer. The doors on the right all look like upright double door fridges to me. JMO.

 

[JaimeInLA]

If you are talking about in this video: [video=twitter;908871965703892992]https://twitter.com/AudrinaBigos/status/908871965703892992[/video]

Notice in the lower right hand corner there is a cart of some sort with a tarp and what looks like a paint bucket on it. Not sure what you are seeing that you think is a walk in freezer. The doors on the right all look like upright double door fridges to me. JMO.

Yes, that video. I see the refrigerators with the horizontal silver handles. But the last one on the right looks like it has a vertical black handle. I thought that was a freezer.

I guess those could be construction supplies in the lower right. But it doesn't look like there is any ongoing construction in that room. And why are all of the lights on at 3 AM? I just have a gut feeling that we are being misled about that area. For some reason either the hotel or the police are not telling us the full story. When I heard about and off-limits area that was closed and under construction, I didn't picture a fully functional kitchen that a hotel guest could just wander through. I pictured tarps, dust, things actually in some stage of being remodeled.

If I were Kenneka, and I were intoxicated, I probably would not recognize that this was a "closed off construction zone" as we have been led to believe. Her friend was a hotel employee. She may have just wandered down there to look for her, not realized she was in an area where she was unlikely to be found, and somehow at herself into that terrible situation.

I guess I'm just wondering why we were led to believe that it was so hard for her to get to where she was at. Looks pretty easy to get there to me.

 

[CARIIS]

Boy oh boy i am spinning

there is really no motivation for the hotel to hide if something bad happened in one of their rooms

a bar is not responsible if one patron puts date rape in another

at the same time it seems pretty hard understood that the poor lady was running around lost for an hour and there not be more video of her

they have released what 10 minutes

out of 60 min?

there are cameras all over the place the
notion that she if off video for 40 min is hard to buy

that being said the only motivation i can think of for the hotel doing something ( hiding tapes ?)is that if somehow there is knowledge that one of their employees saw her and did nothing

or maybe a staff member passed her in a hallway and did nothing

i am getting the sense that it is not exacly a good neighborhood --

 

[rsd1200]

Thank you. So if they had viewed the security footage when they were asked to (immediately following her disappearance), I would have seen she was in that area, gone down there, and wouldn't have been able to hear her screaming and rescue her. Presumably when you were looking for somebody, you yell out their name.

It is insane to me that she was on video in that area the entire time they were supposed to be looking for her, yet nobody checked that area until 8:30 PM the following day, and at that point just stuck their head in, looked around, and left. WTF!!! They didn't find her for an additional four more hours! This hotel is in deep, deep, trouble.

If she had alcohol, and/or drugs in her system, hypothermia would set in quickly. A walk-in would be between 35-38 degrees. A[FONT=&quot]lcohol dilates blood vessels in your legs, arms, hands, so you feel warm. You're not though, it's just the extra blood flowing to your extremities. Your core body temp is actually cooling down. It's possible she was deceased within a 1/2 hour after she walked in there. Due to the warm feeling, and being intoxicated, sitting down for what may have been a few minutes, then falling asleep could be a very real possibility. [/FONT]

 

[CARIIS]

I don't know about people seeing her stumbling around. I was referring to the person checking the security cameras.

I doubt they have someone like watching them jmo

 

[CARIIS]

She might have gone to lie down in back room and a guy came in the room and tried....

 

[Satchie]

I know the freezer in which she was found was in a construction area. But this does not appear to be a construction area. It looks like a normal functioning kitchen. I don't see any evidence at all of construction. This looks like the main kitchen. It is massive. There is no way that hotel has two full kitchens this size. It looks to me like she is wandering through the main kitchen before winding up in the area that was under construction.

Presumably the kitchen was being readied for use, since the freezer was running, they must have finished most of the construction or else it would've been locked up as a hazardous construction site.

It may have been very unfortunate timing that the area was no longer in active construction, but not yet under proper hotel security, since there was nothing there yet to steal.

As someone said, the hotel has a conference centre as well as 2 restaurants. Along with a conference business come huge banquets serving hundreds of people at a time, so it doesn't surprise me they had another full kitchen facility.

 

[Gardener1850]

Yes, that video. I see the refrigerators with the horizontal silver handles. But the last one on the right looks like it has a vertical black handle. I thought that was a freezer.

I guess those could be construction supplies in the lower right. But it doesn't look like there is any ongoing construction in that room. And why are all of the lights on at 3 AM? I just have a gut feeling that we are being misled about that area. For some reason either the hotel or the police are not telling us the full story. When I heard about and off-limits area that was closed and under construction, I didn't picture a fully functional kitchen that a hotel guest could just wander through. I pictured tarps, dust, things actually in some stage of being remodeled.

If I were Kenneka, and I were intoxicated, I probably would not recognize that this was a "closed off construction zone" as we have been led to believe. Her friend was a hotel employee. She may have just wandered down there to look for her, not realized she was in an area where she was unlikely to be found, and somehow at herself into that terrible situation.

I guess I'm just wondering why we were led to believe that it was so hard for her to get to where she was at. Looks pretty easy to get there to me.

The kitchen may not be in use for guest events but might still be open for employees to keep their lunch in, for example. Toward the top of that video there is what looks like a normal upright fridge with top freezer. This is the type a fridge that might be open for employees to use and that would mean the lights would be on at all times for employees to access this area. I don't think this looks like an area where that they could just lock a single door and leave the lights off. There seem to be multiple entrances and exits. It should have been hard for a guest to wander in there but in reality it was not. There could have been a sign warning it was construction zone but in her state, I doubt Kenneka was able to stop and read the sign. The hotel will probably be forced to examine this and put new safety features in place to keep people out of areas like this such as locks on doors.

 

[rsd1200]

Boy oh boy i am spinning

there is really no motivation for the hotel to hide if something bad happened in one of their rooms

a bar is not responsible if one patron puts date rape in another

at the same time it seems pretty hard understood that the poor lady was running around lost for an hour and there not be more video of her

they have released what 10 minutes

out of 60 min?

there are cameras all over the place the
notion that she if off video for 40 min is hard to buy

that being said the only motivation i can think of for the hotel doing something ( hiding tapes ?)is that if somehow there is knowledge that one of their employees saw her and did nothing

or maybe a staff member passed her in a hallway and did nothing

i am getting the sense that it is not exacly a good neighborhood --

We used to rent rooms in motels in my younger days. There were people jumping in pools with their clothes on, parties in rooms, people wandering here and there and losing their rooms, and staying in other folk's rooms, etc.. The motel staff did not really pay any attention to us unless someone got stupid drunk (as in a danger to themselves or others, or just loud, and out of hand), they would then get to stay the night in the Crossbar Hotel. Have ya'll seen the size of the Rosemont? If it's the Rosemont in Downtown Chicago, it's ginormous. They probably searched from the roof on down. I'm leaning toward a very tragic accident. I've been wrong before though.

 

[JaimeInLA]

She wasn't wandering for very long: according to CNN the released surveillance shows:

3:25 am seen exiting the elevator alone
3:32 am walks out of view of surveillance camera in the kitchen.

Her friends called her mother about 4 am, so she hadn't been missing very long.

She'd been seen on surveillance video walking with friends (perhaps just arrived) at 1:13 am. Only 2 hours later she was barely functional, another reason to suspect drugs rather than simply alcohol, although different people have different levels of tolerance.

But she was seen on the Facebook live video with a timestamp of 3:24 AM. None of these timestamps add up! (it's possible the hotel security cameras are off by an hour because of daylight savings time or something.)

 

[Gardener1850]

If she had alcohol, and/or drugs in her system, hypothermia would set in quickly. A walk-in would be between 35-38 degrees. A[FONT=&amp]lcohol dilates blood vessels in your legs, arms, hands, so you feel warm. You're not though, it's just the extra blood flowing to your extremities. Your core body temp is actually cooling down. It's possible she was deceased within a 1/2 hour after she walked in there. Due to the warm feeling, and being intoxicated, sitting down for what may have been a few minutes, then falling asleep could be a very real possibility. [/FONT]

Thank you, I had wondered how long it would take her to die from just the cold alone. If this is correct, she could have already been dead when her friends were calling her mother. Very sad.

 

[rsd1200]

She wasn't wandering for very long: according to CNN the released surveillance shows:

3:25 am seen exiting the elevator alone
3:32 am walks out of view of surveillance camera in the kitchen.

Her friends called her mother about 4 am, so she hadn't been missing very long.

She'd been seen on surveillance video walking with friends (perhaps just arrived) at 1:13 am. Only 2 hours later she was barely functional, another reason to suspect drugs rather than simply alcohol, although different people have different levels of tolerance.

BBM
We don't know what she was drinking. Just three or four Jagerbombs, or just plain Jager, in quick succession, can mess you up, especially if you are a smaller female.

 

[CARIIS]

This is from MSM media release does anyone see anything behind her? [video=youtube;fQO57rw2fak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQO57rw2fak[/video]