IL - Kenneka Jenkins, 19, found dead in hotel freezer, Rosemont, 10 Sept 2017 #1

[Spellbound]

I posted this elsewhere but I think she's on the other side walking by the Kennedy, Orly, Dulles rooms etc on the floor plan it's listed as 2nd floor. Imo this is the parallel corridor to where she held the handrail.

There is a floor plan? Would you have a link? (I will try to find one, if you don't have it handy).

ETA ... by golly, I do believe I finally found what I have been looking for! Thanks, Denouement! !

Floor plans, Crowne Plaza Ohare:
http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-floorplans-1401168053.pdf

 

[tru2it4u]

I posted this elsewhere but I think she's on the other side walking by the Kennedy, Orly, Dulles rooms etc on the floor plan it's listed as 2nd floor. Imo this is the parallel corridor to where she held the handrail.

http://whotv.com/2017/09/17/police-...-of-chicago-teen-found-dead-in-hotel-freezer/

Last clip it says on the upper left hand corner of the screen llwesthall . I had posted this late last night. I think it means Lower level West hall (main level of floor plan) where the ball rooms are.


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[Dénouement]

There is a floor plan? Would you have a link? (I will try to find one, if you don't have it handy).

http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-floorplans-1401168053.pdf

 

[Elainera]

Do we have confirmation from a reliable source that there was in fact an exit near the freezer that is off camera? Garbage disposal? Delivery entrance? It makes sense that such an exit/entrance would be at the rear of any large kitchen, plus in the officer's statement he said something about "garbage". But it would be good to know if there's really such a door close by that is not covered by the camera.

 

[tru2it4u]

There are several good videos on your link. The one with the couple checking in is second from the bottom ... screenshot with faces blurred out:

a motel will rent to a group of young people. I don't know if there is an actual age limit. If there is, it is possible someone in this group was at/over the required age, or an altered ID was used. Or had someone else's credit card.



I wondered the same, Lorinda. But thanks to true2, I just saw more video that I must have missed.

I had not seen this part in the videos before and cannot tell where the hall in this clip is located in the hotel ... is this the floor of the party room?
( it is also from true2's link in the quoted section of my post).

screenshot of Hall that I don't recognize--- can someone enlighten me?:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/kenneka-jenkins-hotel-freezer-death-surveillance-video-rosemont-chicago-444719063.html

Pretty certain it's the same hall.

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[JaimeInLA]

Do we have confirmation from a reliable source that there was in fact an exit near the freezer that is off camera? Garbage disposal? Delivery entrance? It makes sense that such an exit/entrance would be at the rear of any large kitchen, plus in the officer's statement he said something about "garbage". But it would be good to know if there's really such a door close by that is not covered by the camera.

No. The police have said there is only one entrance/exit to that area, the one K took. Her sister said there are seven ways in/out. That is a massive discrepancy. But we don't really know what the truth is. We haven't really been able to identify where the kitchen under construction is on the floor plan.

 

[verbiage]

Long time lurker first time poster. Been seeing this case blow up crazy on social media and came here to see if you guys were talking about it. <modsnip> As a twenty-something who lived a similar lifestyle in my teens I hope to offer some clarification/speculation on some things.

First off as far as her jeans appearing to be not as ripped in the footage as they are in the Snapchats when she first get there....when you wear tight jeans usually over the day they loosen up a bit with movement / sitting / standing / walking. You can see they pinch her stomach a bit in the Snapchat but in the footage they're sliding down and she adjusts them. That's what's causing them to look less ripped because as they slide down the threads are closer together. Snapchat also flips your images if I'm not mistaken but the mirror seems to have flipped it back, but that's relevant for the other Snapchats as I see people mention her wristwear.

Her hair looks "wiggy" as it seems to be extensions. They were tucked neatly behind her ear at first but when she was frantically wondering the hair moved forward and she seemed to be too inebriated to worry about that at that point.

Running a train doesn't necessarily refer to gang rape. It can be consensual. But I think the implication in that instance was otherwise. I don't believe that's what happened to her personally. Also I think it was cleared up that her friends were referring to the parking issues in the background. The tickets may be so high for losing your stub or whatever they were talking about because it's apparently close to an airport so people may attempt to park there instead of the airport and that may be in place as kind of a deterrent.

Now for the drug speculation. As far as her sipping lean/purple drank ( Codeine Cough syrup with Promethazine usually mixed with some kind of soda etc ) I don't think so. I've been around that scene quite a bit in my wild years and I know lean is pretty expensive now a days. Not something you bring to a party unless you have a surplus of funds, especially as a teen. Something in regards to a large company discontinuing manufacturing due to abuse. Entertainers use it but they have the means to buy it. It's also a downer and leaves you in your own little world so it's not a big party drug like something like coke / molly / x.

That's not to say she wasn't under the influence of some kind of opiate. Percocets are more likely to be seen at a party, cheaper and easier to come by. Those pills usually take some time to kick in though and it seems she wasn't there that long. Although other factors matter, ie: did she take them before she left? did she drink something like orange juice to promote them kicking in? did she eat before she took them, etc etc etc.

When I saw her my first instinct was Xanax + Alcohol. Also cheap and commonly used. It seems she's under the influence of something that's making her body feel heavy which maybe be why she's kind of stomping at some points. Xanax kicks in really quick as it's an instant release anxiety medication. It makes you feel kind of drunk. It's also really easy to overestimate your dose if you don't use it frequently and listen to the doses that other people use. Especially when you mix it with alcohol. It also causes blackouts and plenty of people, including young me, to do things that make absolutely no sense with no recollection of periods of time. Some people compare it to the Quaaludes of yesteryear.

As far as Molly / X I don't really see it. IMO there would've been a little more pep in her step, that leaves you wired. Kind of like baby speed. I have heard of Molly reacting badly with some people though. I don't think it was GHB. It's not really common in urban communities as far as I've experienced.

I've seen a lot of conspiracy theories out there and I've looked into a few out of curiousity but I honestly think it may have been a case of overestimating her tolerance whether or not it was just alcohol or something more potent.

Hope this helps. Happy to clear any other slang / drug questions up. Or at least I'll try.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Pretty certain it's the same hall.

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Whoa. This makes a world of difference to me. In the low resolution security videos, I thought she was walking on linoleum floor, and assumed it looked like a service area.

This is a public area right outside the conference rooms. Those video screens are what they use to tell you what is happening inside each conference room.

I think this will help us locate that kitchen. The conference rooms were one level up from the lobby, not one level down from the lobby, correct?

So she was in a very public hallway (albeit in the middle of the night), checking door handles. I bet you she was looking for a bathroom. That also makes sense why she would leave the lobby where her friends were going to return for her. She probably had to pee.

She must have found a door knob that finally worked, it led into that kitchen, she walked through the kitchen and into the freezer. Maybe, in her impaired state, she even knew it was a freezer, but didn't care. It was private, nobody would see her, and she really had to go. (No judgment, I have been there. I have peed in a parking garage in Vegas when it was an emergency! Embarrassing and horrible, and probably on camera. But when you were drunk, you don't care.)

 

[Elainera]

No. The police have said there is only one entrance/exit to that area, the one K took. Her sister said there are seven ways in/out. That is a massive discrepancy. But we don't really know what the truth is. We haven't really been able to identify where the kitchen under construction is on the floor plan.

bbm I have been looking at the floor plan too and can't find anything marked as kitchen. Frustrating!

 

[verbiage]

Whoa. This makes a world of difference to me. In the low resolution security videos, I thought she was walking on linoleum floor, and assumed it looked like a service area.

This is a public area right outside the conference rooms. Those video screens are what they tell you what is happening inside each conference room.

I think this will help us locate that kitchen. The conference rooms were one level up from the lobby, not one level down from the lobby, correct?

So she was in a very public hallway (albeit in the middle of the night), checking door handles. I bet you she was looking for a bathroom. That also makes sense why she would leave the lobby where her friends were going to return for her. She probably had to pee.

She must have found a door knob that finally worked, it led into that kitchen, she walked through the kitchen and into the freezer. Maybe, in her impaired state, she even knew it was a freezer, but didn't care. It was private, nobody would see her, and she really had to go. (No judgment, I have been there. I have peed in a parking garage in Vegas when it was an emergency! Embarrassing and horrible, and probably on camera. But when you were drunk, you don't care.)

I think the rep that gave the press conference about the footage mentioned she stopped in a bathroom in the basement at some point. I think he said it was the men's but if you gotta go who cares lol. I mean some may take what he said with a grain of salt due to the controversy with viewing the footage without her mother though.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Long time lurker first time poster. Been seeing this case blow up crazy on social media and came here to see if you guys were talking about it. <modsnip> As a twenty-something who lived a similar lifestyle in my teens I hope to offer some clarification/speculation on some things.

First off as far as her jeans appearing to be not as ripped in the footage as they are in the Snapchats when she first get there....when you wear tight jeans usually over the day they loosen up a bit with movement / sitting / standing / walking. You can see they pinch her stomach a bit in the Snapchat but in the footage they're sliding down and she adjusts them. That's what's causing them to look less ripped because as they slide down the threads are closer together. Snapchat also flips your images if I'm not mistaken but the mirror seems to have flipped it back, but that's relevant for the other Snapchats as I see people mention her wristwear.

Her hair looks "wiggy" as it seems to be extensions. They were tucked neatly behind her ear at first but when she was frantically wondering the hair moved forward and she seemed to be too inebriated to worry about that at that point.

Running a train doesn't necessarily refer to gang rape. It can be consensual. But I think the implication in that instance was otherwise. I don't believe that's what happened to her personally. Also I think it was cleared up that her friends were referring to the parking issues in the background. The tickets may be so high for losing your stub or whatever they were talking about because it's apparently close to an airport so people may attempt to park there instead of the airport and that may be in place as kind of a deterrent.

Now for the drug speculation. As far as her sipping lean/purple drank ( Codeine Cough syrup with Promethazine usually mixed with some kind of soda etc ) I don't think so. I've been around that scene quite a bit in my wild years and I know lean is pretty expensive now a days. Not something you bring to a party unless you have a surplus of funds, especially as a teen. Something in regards to a large company discontinuing manufacturing due to abuse. Entertainers use it but they have the means to buy it. It's also a downer and leaves you in your own little world so it's not a big party drug like something like coke / molly / x.

That's not to say she wasn't under the influence of some kind of opiate. Percocets are more likely to be seen at a party, cheaper and easier to come by. Those pills usually take some time to kick in though and it seems she wasn't there that long. Although other factors matter, ie: did she take them before she left? did she drink something like orange juice to promote them kicking in? did she eat before she took them, etc etc etc.

When I saw her my first instinct was Xanax + Alcohol. Also cheap and commonly used. It seems she's under the influence of something that's making her body feel heavy which maybe be why she's kind of stomping at some points. Xanax kicks in really quick as it's an instant release anxiety medication. It makes you feel kind of drunk. It's also really easy to overestimate your dose if you don't use it frequently and listen to the doses that other people use. Especially when you mix it with alcohol. It also causes blackouts and plenty of people, including young me, to do things that make absolutely no sense with no recollection of periods of time. Some people compare it to the Quaaludes of yesteryear.

As far as Molly / X I don't really see it. IMO there would've been a little more pep in her step, that leaves you wired. Kind of like baby speed. I have heard of Molly reacting badly with some people though. I don't think it was GHB. It's not really common in urban communities as far as I've experienced.

I've seen a lot of conspiracy theories out there and I've looked into a few out of curiousity but I honestly think it may have been a case of overestimating her tolerance whether or not it was just alcohol or something more potent.

Hope this helps. Happy to clear any other slang / drug questions up. Or at least I'll try.

I completely agree with you. Xanax or maybe even Fentanyl. Either of those are extremely dangerous when mixed with alcohol. The combination of Xanax and alcohol has killed many young celebrities in recent years. It slows down the heart rate so much that respiration stops. Her friend said she drink one cup. One cup full of hard alcohol mixed with Xanax would be enough to kill a person with a small frame and a low tolerance.

 

[Elainera]

Whoa. This makes a world of difference to me. In the low resolution security videos, I thought she was walking on linoleum floor, and assumed it looked like a service area.

This is a public area right outside the conference rooms. Those video screens are what they use to tell you what is happening inside each conference room.

I think this will help us locate that kitchen. The conference rooms were one level up from the lobby, not one level down from the lobby, correct?

So she was in a very public hallway (albeit in the middle of the night), checking door handles. I bet you she was looking for a bathroom. That also makes sense why she would leave the lobby where her friends were going to return for her. She probably had to pee.

She must have found a door knob that finally worked, it led into that kitchen, she walked through the kitchen and into the freezer. Maybe, in her impaired state, she even knew it was a freezer, but didn't care. It was private, nobody would see her, and she really had to go. (No judgment, I have been there. I have peed in a parking garage in Vegas when it was an emergency! Embarrassing and horrible, and probably on camera. But when you were drunk, you don't care.)

bbm According to the floor plan, the conference level is below the lobby.

http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-floorplans-1401168053.pdf

 

[Dénouement]

Pretty certain it's the same hall.



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How? In the video that's a double door at the end

 

[JaimeInLA]

bbm According to the floor plan, the conference level is below the lobby.

http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-floorplans-1401168053.pdf

Thank you. So we have been correct all along, and she did go down one level. She was literally standing at the bottom of the steps in that video. I don't understand why she didn't just go back up those stairs!

Yes, she came down an elevator. But she could have just gone back up the stairs that she was standing near! Ugh. Poor thing.

 

[tru2it4u]

bbm According to the floor plan, the conference level is below the lobby.

http://www.crowneplazaohare.com/pdf/doc-floorplans-1401168053.pdf

IMO, I don't think she was on the conference level. I think she was on the main level and so is that hidden vacant kitchen.


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[verbiage]

I'm not so sure about one cup and some Xanax, being lethal in terms of potency but I won't say it isn't either. I think its more likely that one cup and a Xanax bar may put you in a situation where you end up dead based on being totally out of it.

I don't think it would be Fentanyl though. That's kind of hard to come by too. In urban areas a lot of younger people don't even know things like that exist unless they're really into drugs. At least in my experience. At that age its all about Xanax, Percocet, E Pills, Molly, Weed, Vicodin, maybbbbbe Adderall, Lean if it's available and someone has the money. Then more hardcore would be like crystal, heroin, coke, or crack but I don't see that for them really. They don't really look like "junkies" I know they come in all shapes and forms but it's probably more of a once in a while kind of thing.... if that which might be why she over estimated.

Common stuff that's easy to get, affordable with $20 from mom or a part time job is more likely IMO.

 

[Elainera]

IMO, I don't think she was on the conference level. I think she was on the main level and so is that hidden vacant kitchen.


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They said that kitchen was located in the "basement"? I assumed that would mean the level below the lobby which you enter from street level. jmo

 

[Gardener1850]

bbm I have been looking at the floor plan too and can't find anything marked as kitchen. Frustrating!

I think the kitchen is on a level below the floor plans and that floor is not shown on public maps. Those floor plans linked above appear to be the same floor plans you can see on the google walk around on lighted maps on the wall: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.977...386485-ro-0-fo100!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i21

If the kitchen was really in an area that is supposed to be employee only they would not put it on a map for public use. There may be a map on the wall on that basement level for emergency exit purposes, but the maps available online seem to be focused on conference attendants and the rooms they may need to find for a conference or wedding. I walked around all the Google dots and it doesn't seem to go to the level we need to see. JMO.

 

[CARIIS]

How? In the video that's a double door at the end

The sister desribes going through a double door but also said the cops told her there were 7 ways in which fits with the floorplans that have been posted here.

But then - hard to tell with with the timestamps - going by them it only took her two minutes from the elevator to kitchen .

But the sister describes a long schelp

 

[Dénouement]

It's a double door at the end of that hallway as well.



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I see. I still believe she was on Conference level by those stairs and Midway auditorium imo is the men's restroom she went into and I believe the other hallway footage is where the Kennedy, Orly rooms are. Imo the alcoves from the video do not match to the ballroom from the floor plan