IL IL - Timmothy Fry-Pitzen, 6, Aurora, 13 May 2011 - mom found dead - #1

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blazelet said:
Im a little confused about something. According to articles it says she made the calls on Friday from the Sterling \ Rock Falls area. Sterling, WI and Rock Falls, WI are almost 3 hours apart ...
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It's Sterling and Rock Falls ILLINOIS, not Wisconsin. Look for I-88 in Illinois.
 
fedfan4life said:
Yikes, I don't have kids, but if my husband ever left overnight w/one of my dogs w/o any explanation or contact, he and I would likely no longer be married. Allowing that type of behavior set a very unhealthy precedent.
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People are different, though. If she had taken off before for a day or an evening, he probably went to bed that first night thinking she'd be home any minute. When he woke up the next morning she wasn't there, and that's when he knew something wasn't right.
 
fedfan4life....great timeline.

You could add that she was reported missing on Thursday, I believe I read it was around 1:00 PM. Is it confirmed that she walked home from work to get the vehicle?

Also, has anyone seen anything about what she told her work (what happened there) and what she told the school?

I'm not sure I see the Minnesota route and back home. But she went to the Sterling area for something/someone, because she did come back to the Rockford area (she most likely went through the Rockford area from the Dells to Sterling).

Has there been any report of amount of gas left in her car? If she filled up in Johnson Creek, WI....at minimum, she had to travel about 225 miles. With a 26 gallon tank at 12 mpg (I have a 2003 expedition, I'm being gererous on the mileage)...she should have about 7-8 gallons left (about 80-90 miles to empty)...any less may direct us to how far west she went or if there should be more gas station receipts from somewhere? Just a thought.

Did the service station in LaGrange log her mileage, never been to one that doesn't. That may help to determine how much father she roamed on Friday.
 
Amy seems to have been a very loving mother. I daresay she would have seriously considered the devastating effect it would have on Timmothy's life if she were to kill herself. She would never want him to have to feel that pain, so the only way she could bring herself to go thru with the suicide was if Timmothy would never know.

Can anyone think of any way she could have "protected" him from knowing about her suicide without killing him as well? He is old enough to remember who he is and where he lives, so even if she gave him to someone he would probably talk about who he is.

Would she have made up some reason, like a summer-long visit with "Aunt Jane and Uncle John", instructing them to fabricate some excuse like an accident to explain why he can't go home? Would she have just sent him "on vacation" with someone without any explanation to the child?

I am running out of ideas here. I guess he most likely is dead, but what if he is not?
What if some unscrupulous person tricked her into thinking they would take good care of him?

What if she contacted one of those underground groups that hide children from abusive parents? I am not saying Dad is abusive, just wondering if she might have used that excuse to send Timmothy far away, so he would never know that she killed herself?
 
I can't see how this is relative or helps...but grasping at straws here.....anyone find her name interesting. Is Fry her maiden name....her mothers name was anderson though, but you know how that could chnage. Her second husband's name was Campbell. I can't see keeping a past husbands name hyphonated with current husbands name. Anyway...interesting.
 
pjessie said:
I can't see how this is relative or helps...but grasping at straws here.....anyone find her name interesting. Is Fry her maiden name....her mothers name was anderson though, but you know how that could chnage. Her second husband's name was Campbell. I can't see keeping a past husbands name hyphonated with current husbands name. Anyway...interesting.
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To make it even more interesting, the child's name is 'Fry-Pitzen' as well. But, you're right, not sure how that is relevant...
 
"People are different, though. If she had taken off before for a day or an evening, he probably went to bed that first night thinking she'd be home any minute. When he woke up the next morning she wasn't there, and that's when he knew something wasn't right. "
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absolutely true, maybe a very different relationship. Any word on the reasons the last 2 marraiges didn't work?

Also, where did she go and what were the circumstances the last time she 'took off'....may be able to draw some motive or similarities?
 
TGIRecovered said:
Amy seems to have been a very loving mother. I daresay she would have seriously considered the devastating effect it would have on Timmothy's life if she were to kill herself. She would never want him to have to feel that pain, so the only way she could bring herself to go thru with the suicide was if Timmothy would never know.

Can anyone think of any way she could have "protected" him from knowing about her suicide without killing him as well? He is old enough to remember who he is and where he lives, so even if she gave him to someone he would probably talk about who he is.

Would she have made up some reason, like a summer-long visit with "Aunt Jane and Uncle John", instructing them to fabricate some excuse like an accident to explain why he can't go home? Would she have just sent him "on vacation" with someone without any explanation to the child?

I am running out of ideas here. I guess he most likely is dead, but what if he is not?
What if some unscrupulous person tricked her into thinking they would take good care of him?

What if she contacted one of those underground groups that hide children from abusive parents? I am not saying Dad is abusive, just wondering if she might have used that excuse to send Timmothy far away, so he would never know that she killed herself?
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I bolded the part I think happened, and makes a lot more sense, for even a mentally challenged person, with emotions that are based on mental issues leading her, would STILL care enough in this way to try and save her child from this type of heartache. I can see a woman who is mentally ill or emotionally overwrought to the point of suicide, still caring as she is doing the planning of her own demise to as well, protect the child (in her own way) from a life without his mommy.

:(
 
Channel 12 in Milwaukee aired an interview on Wednesday's late news with Timmothy's father and showed the video from the Kalahari. In the interview, the dad said that he hopes the other person in the video (standing to Amy's left) comes forward, thinking she might know something or at least have seen or heard something.

blazelet said:
This article talks about new search efforts coming up and states that Amy's cell phone has not yet been located.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-timmothy-pitzen-0526-20110525,0,3984980.story

That's odd about the cell phone.
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I think that's so interesting, and there are so many possibilities. She may have just tossed it after those calls to relatives because she didn't want anybody or anything to weaken her resolve. Or she could have left it with Tmmothy, if he is deceased. Or if she did give him to someone, and that person has her cellphone number, she might not have wanted the authorities and her family to find Timmothy that quickly if those people called her. Maybe she told quite a story to get them to take him, and that story would fall apart if they called her number and found out the truth.

Of course, I have no idea why she would go to that extreme. But so much of this story doesn't make sense anyway.
 
pjessie said:
I can't see how this is relative or helps...but grasping at straws here.....anyone find her name interesting. Is Fry her maiden name....her mothers name was anderson though, but you know how that could chnage. Her second husband's name was Campbell. I can't see keeping a past husbands name hyphonated with current husbands name. Anyway...interesting.
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Amy's obituary lists her father's and brother's last name as Fry, so that would be her maiden name.
 
I have to think the person in the video to Amy's left was simply someone else standing in line waiting to check in or check out of the Kalahari. I doubt they would have overheard anything or have any information on Amy's plans following check out.

I'm particularly interested in the stop for car repairs. LaGrange is not an area someone residing in Aurora (or even their previous address according to Veromi.net in Lombard IL) would plan on using, it is simply too far out of the way from Aurora and Lombard. What was the reason for the stop at the body shop? What work did she have done? I'm almost certain she didn't have an appointment so did she just stop in to have the car gone over and and oil change for a road trip? I hope LE has interviewed the shop employee's who might provide additional information which might provide additional clues.

ETA: The only thing that makes sense regarding taking the car for repairs in LaGrange is it is not far from the Zoo if she was heading towards the Zoo on 31st street.
 
I think someone previously might have mentioned the odometer - the body shop should have taken it down. If that's the cast it would help LE get an idea of how many extra miles she would have driven in the missing hours.
 
As the huntfor 6-year-old Timmothy Pitzen enters its third week, Aurora police said Wednesday that they will soon search an area around a cellphone tower near Sterling, a small town on the Rock River in northwestern Illinois.

Surrounded by rolling fields and ravines cut with creeks and rivers, the tower is the last place to receive a cellphone signal from the boy's mother, Amy Fry-Pitzen, who later committed suicide in a Rockford hotel, police said.

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Her cellphone was not with her and has not been found, Ferrelli said

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-timmothy-pitzen-0526-20110525,0,3984980.story


If her last cell phone signal was in the Sterling Rock Falls IL area, there is nothing to confirm she made it further west to the Quad Cities. Unless LE has survellience video or information on purchases she made in the Quad Cities which they have not released.

It almost makes me think the cell phone is wherever Timmy is, which is likely (at least from info released) near the Rock Falls/Sterling area.


She ditched the cell phone for a reason.
 
It's possible based on the odometer reading she could have put enough miles on the vehicle to go to the Quad cities prior to the Rockford area. However just the miles alone wouldn't confirm that is where she went, just that she put enough miles on the car to have possible driven there.

That she ditched the cell phone is telling. She calls several family and friends and then ditches the cell phone which doesn't give her an opportunity for communication with whomever she allegedly left Timmy with - unless she had access to one of those prepay track phones or something simliar. I'm not seeing that there was much planning behind this trip so I don't see her having access to a second cell phone as being very likely.
 
From what we know the last place Amy purchased gas was in Johnson Creek WI. I haven't looked at a map but I don't know that she could have driven from Johnson Creek WI to the Dells down to Rock Falls then west to the Quad Cities and back east and then north to Rockford on a single tank of gas. Even with higher MPG with highway miles I'm not sure she could have made that route on a single tank of gas.
 
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_engines.aspx?modelid=10879&trimid=-1&src=vip

According to the above a 2004 Ford Expedition has a 28 gal tank and gets between 17 and 19 highway MPG. Even if she filled up in Johnson Creek and lets say she was getting the full 19 MPG hwy that's 532 miles for a full tank.

the distance between Johnson Creek onto the Kalahari Resort and then to Rock Falls according to Google Maps is 252 miles.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...6281,-89.274902&spn=3.570564,7.042236&t=h&z=7


anyone know where she was expected to have gone in IA to add to the map to determine estimated miles?

thanks
 
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