From the article I read - and I'm trying to find it again - they were not entering data in the national database.I’m talking about criminal history information - Scottsdale PD wasn’t sharing that with NCIC/nationally?
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From the article I read - and I'm trying to find it again - they were not entering data in the national database.I’m talking about criminal history information - Scottsdale PD wasn’t sharing that with NCIC/nationally?
I can see that. One problem I see is what if he did this before or since and he was successful in abducting a girl. And maybe it happened 100, 2oo or more miles away. And he killed her in the same manner as Abigail and Liberty, but her body has not been found. LE has no link.I lean towards this being his first time, but I'm admittedly not well-versed in serial killers. I guess I lean that way because they think he's local, yet no other local crimes prior to these murders stand out as a connection, and because the girls were found so soon after they were murdered, and the risks involved in committing the crime in a relatively public place, and within a fairly short time frame.
It's not my solid stance. It's fluid. In part because I don't know if murder was even the initial motive, or an outcome of something going wrong.
I had in mind the original reporter's quote not the scanner (which we cannot discuss)
I could see girls clothing in Deer Creek east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby
Abby had a pink top and Libby had a tie died fringed top, which is what was described on the LE poster IIRC. Those colours would show up IMO especially in Feb without much greenery or flowers around.
ETA If I could find the LE poster mentioning the clothes and shoes, I would post it but I haven't found it yet, still looking.
More info. This report states that only 15% of unidentified remains are entered in NCIC. Why? LE agencies state they don't have the time or resources to enter the data. It also goes on to state that many LE agencies are not familiar with NCIC and the other FBI databases such as ViCAP (Violent Criminal Apprehension Program, which BTW does NOT interface with NCIC in spite of the fact that the FBI runs both).
Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains: The Nation’s Silent Mass Disaster
No resources to train and screen them. That’s a huge project in itself. It’s a disgrace the thin resources LE is given.MOO- to me, entering data in a database could easily be done by volunteers who have been trained and screened.
I was reading up on another case this morning which made me wonder whether a profile has ever been shared for BG? I realise people have mixed views on the accuracy of them and therefore the importance of having one, but I’d be interested to read on if it existed.
I had in mind the original reporter's quote not the scanner (which we cannot discuss)
I could see girls clothing in Deer Creek east of the bridge and knew full well that the girls where found very nearby
Abby had a pink top and Libby had a tie died fringed top, which is what was described on the LE poster IIRC. Those colours would show up IMO especially in Feb without much greenery or flowers around.
ETA If I could find the LE poster mentioning the clothes and shoes, I would post it but I haven't found it yet, still looking.
That how my group were addressed growing up, my Dad would say "Ladies". I also heard "Girls". "Guys" was used between us or if we were talking to our age group of guys. It was also used by teachers sometimes trying to get a hold of a classroom but then I think I heard "People" more than "Guys". Could just be my period in time type thing and using "Guys" for two female is just the norm now. It seems a little odd to me also, BG saying "Guys".
I’m not sure of the age groups of everyone here, but I am a 37 year old female and I call my friends ‘guys’ in groups. For people my age it’s extremely common.
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In my opinion the shoe was a "stock picture", not her real shoe. Same with the phone they showed. They insinuated those two items were related to the crime, but never actually made that claim. moo
Yet another theory this suspect is also known to at least one of the girls and possibly both. He has a very distinctive chin and is the youngest of my suspects. This person may kill again because his motive was not the same as my first 2 suspects. Again DNA could be easily explained away unless there was a sexual assault leaving DNA behind. Moo
or he had an accomplice who did not get recorded. MOO.Even for a predator you have a set of balls to attack not one but two in that area. Two changes everything. It either means he did this before and somehow by some miracle hasnt been caught which I highly doubt because it is too brazen or he knew them or knew of them and it was a planned hit.
Yes I also address my friends like that sometimes. I just know when I was 13-14, an adult man, unless he was a teacher in a classroom or a Summer camp counselor etc...wouldn't have addressed my girlfriend and I as "Guys". I would have expected a "Girls" or "Ladies" but then I never, thank God, ran across a man with murder on his mind. You're right though, it could just be that I'm a child of the 60's and 70's and language was different then.I’m not sure of the age groups of everyone here, but I am a 37 year old female and I call my friends ‘guys’ in groups. For people my age it’s extremely common.
Yes I also address my friends like that sometimes. I just know when I was 13-14, an adult man, unless he was a teacher in a classroom or a Summer camp counselor etc...wouldn't have addressed my girlfriend and I as "Guys". I would have expected a "Girls" or "Ladies" but then I never, thank God, ran across a man with murder on his mind. You're right though, it could just be that I'm a child of the 60's and 70's and language was different then.