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TMZAt the end of the interview, the officers remind Kline that he twice failed a polygraph test when asked if he knew who killed the teens, and say he deleted his search history shortly afterward.
"Why would you after you failed the polygraph about knowing about the Delphi investigation, come home, delete your Snapchat and your Instagram, which you used to communicate with Libby and then you searched, 'how long does D.N.A last?' Why would you do that?" the detective asked.
Well, BG's face is almost completely obscured in the photo. And as it has been five years, we really don't know what KAK looked like at the time of the murders. People who know him personally would, though. I'm certainly not ruling him out.While walking the trail and crossing the bridge etc would take an obvious physical effort, what happened after the bridge crossing would also take a huge mental effort - adrenaline, fear, excitement etc all rolled into one.
KAK lost his cool several times in that interview just because officers needled him a little bit. I just don’t see him being able to keep a lid on things if he really was BG. I don’t know what it is but for me he just doesn’t fit that photo of BG. I don’t see KAK in any way when I look at that photo. It’s maddening.
Well, BG's face is almost completely obscured in the photo. And as it has been five years, we really don't know what KAK looked like at the time of the murders. People who know him personally would, though. I'm certainly not ruling him out.
There are physical characteristics that don't change without plastic surgery, however - ears, nose, mouth, forehead and hairline with or without hair - which will help identify him.
I feel more hopeful that the case will finally be solved now than ever before.
bbm greenTo rehash what I said earlier
The killer either saw the girls enter the park and followed them , the killer was in the park and came upon them by happen stance
-or-
The killer knew they would be there (perhaps even arranged to meet them there )
Delphi Murders Update: Catfisher Admitted Contacting Girls Night Before They Were Killed, Leaked Police Transcripts Show
Delphi Murders Update: Catfisher Admitted Contacting Girls Night Before They Were Killed, Leaked Police Transcripts Show
Five years on, nobody has been charged.
UPDATE: 3/25/2022 9:15 AM PST
A man linked to the fake Instagram profile used to catfish two Indiana teens has admitted contacting them the night before they were killed, leaked police transcripts show — but he is not a suspect in their murder.
According to court documents, police believe the Instagram profile "Anthony Shots" was used by 27-year-old Kegan Anthony Kline (pictured, above right) to solicit explicit pictures from underage females on social media. They also believe someone using the Anthony Shots account was the last to contact 14-year-old Liberty German the night before she and 13-year-old Abigail Williams were found murdered on Valentines Day of 2017.
But more than five years on, nobody has been arrested or charged in the killings.
On Friday, a police transcript obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast — which Indiana State Police insists they did not release — shows Kline admitted talking to German while she was at a sleepover, the night before she disappeared.
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bbm green
The night, before she (and Abby) disappeared, she was at her own home and Abby had a sleepover, strictly speaking. From memory, the girls were up all night, and when they got up, DG made breakfast for them (something like pancakes).
I use critical thinking when I approach cases ..especially cases that I have followed very closely ..and critical thinking says there is zero indication the girls were catfished at all ..
my reason
1/for the girls to be catfished that day..you need a specific set date which is not possible in a spur of the moment trip ( you can argue all you want about the girls deciding in advance but its the sister who made the final decision )..
2/ the first thing that was searched was the phone..and they had no evidence to suggest the girls were catfished that day ( that text ) or they wouldn't have gone and said ( there is no reason to think about catfishing online ) right after ..or to link this creep or his dad or whomever finally to the crime...
3/ a girl wouldn't take a gf to a secret date but lets say she did ..they had a chat before the abduction that was heard by LE and the family and there is no mention of this date ..does this makes sense even ?
4/ the first thing a digital killer would do is to erase his digital print connecting him to the victim and to look for the phone when approaching the victims.. which didnt happen here
5/catfishing usually involves direct rape.. cause that victim was chosen and stalked..the killer wouldn't be able to control himself..but we know this didnt happen here..if he wanted to appease his desires thru kill thrill.. he could have done that with any random victim..also noting the young age of the victims.. we cant say this is a case of an online stalker being angry over constant rejection which also cant be proven here
JMO
If I'm not mistaken isn't catfishing just the act of presenting yourself as a different more attractive person than you are to interact with people on the internet. It didn't have to have a meeting in place or for a rape to occur to be catfishing. Women catfish men in many cases for money without intention ofever seeing them in person.
JMO, MOO
It’s pretty clear now that the girls were catfished, and that they were going to meet someone. Many of us had suspected all along that the murders weren’t random, and that they had planned to meet someone. But now MSM is reporting it so we can discuss it on these threads.I use critical thinking when I approach cases ..especially cases that I have followed very closely ..and critical thinking says there is zero indication the girls were catfished at all ..
my reason
1/for the girls to be catfished that day..you need a specific set date which is not possible in a spur of the moment trip ( you can argue all you want about the girls deciding in advance but its the sister who made the final decision )..
2/ the first thing that was searched was the phone..and they had no evidence to suggest the girls were catfished that day ( that text ) or they wouldn't have gone and said ( there is no reason to think about catfishing online ) right after ..or to link this creep or his dad or whomever finally to the crime...
3/ a girl wouldn't take a gf to a secret date but lets say she did ..they had a chat before the abduction that was heard by LE and the family and there is no mention of this date ..does this makes sense even ?
4/ the first thing a digital killer would do is to erase his digital print connecting him to the victim and to look for the phone when approaching the victims.. which didnt happen here
5/catfishing usually involves direct rape.. cause that victim was chosen and stalked..the killer wouldn't be able to control himself..but we know this didnt happen here..if he wanted to appease his desires thru kill thrill.. he could have done that with any random victim..also noting the young age of the victims.. we cant say this is a case of an online stalker being angry over constant rejection which also cant be proven here
JMO
A couple of pages later in the transcript, the trooper confronts Kline saying that Anthony Shots was supposed to meet Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day she died.
“See I don’t remember ever saying to meet up with me though,” Kline responded.
Earlier, the trooper quoted Kline’s message to another person after he learned about Libby and Abby’s murder where Anthony Shots wrote “Yeah, we were supposed to meet but she never showed up.”
A break in the Delphi murders? Transcripts reveal new detailsAccording to the transcripts, investigators said they knew Libby was speaking to Anthony Shots at the sleepover the night before she went to the Delphi trail with Abby. Police said they believe Libby was being groomed by the account. “Unfortunately she was completely enthralled with Anthony Shots,” investigators said in the transcripts.
Yes, a date needs to be established for a meet up, but if they couldn’t have gotten a ride, then so be it - on to the next thing.I use critical thinking when I approach cases ..especially cases that I have followed very closely ..and critical thinking says there is zero indication the girls were catfished at all ..
my reason
1/for the girls to be catfished that day..you need a specific set date which is not possible in a spur of the moment trip ( you can argue all you want about the girls deciding in advance but its the sister who made the final decision )..
2/ the first thing that was searched was the phone..and they had no evidence to suggest the girls were catfished that day ( that text ) or they wouldn't have gone and said ( there is no reason to think about catfishing online ) right after ..or to link this creep or his dad or whomever finally to the crime...
3/ a girl wouldn't take a gf to a secret date but lets say she did ..they had a chat before the abduction that was heard by LE and the family and there is no mention of this date ..does this makes sense even ?
4/ the first thing a digital killer would do is to erase his digital print connecting him to the victim and to look for the phone when approaching the victims.. which didnt happen here
5/catfishing usually involves direct rape.. cause that victim was chosen and stalked..the killer wouldn't be able to control himself..but we know this didnt happen here..if he wanted to appease his desires thru kill thrill.. he could have done that with any random victim..also noting the young age of the victims.. we cant say this is a case of an online stalker being angry over constant rejection which also cant be proven here
JMO
And at the prior sleepover is my understanding. Seems like A LOT of communication in the days prior :-0bbm green
The night, before she (and Abby) disappeared, she was at her own home and Abby had a sleepover, strictly speaking. From memory, the girls were up all night, and when they got up, DG made breakfast for them (something like pancakes).
It’s pretty clear now that the girls were catfished, and that they were going to meet someone. Many of us had suspected all along that the murders weren’t random, and that they had planned to meet someone. But now MSM is reporting it so we can discuss it on these threads.
A break in the Delphi murders? Transcripts reveal new details
For all we know it was agreed that he would be bringing a friend to meet Abby. There are so many apps that wipe the texts away as soon as they were read and some of them have been mentioned in relation to this investigation and KAK specifically (Kik, Snapchat) In the beginning, some of the media dubbed this "the snapchat murders"Yes, a date needs to be established for a meet up, but if they couldn’t have gotten a ride, then so be it - on to the next thing.
Kids hide chats all kinds of places on phones ( different apps, chats of online games, etc). It may have taken LE awhile to find that stuff, especially if anonymous.
Maybe the perp wiped Libby’s phone of these things? Would take LE longer to dissect and find.
I’m not sure the perp went there to kill them. Maybe he was mad she brought a friend and went nuts. And absolutely young people might bring friend to a secret meeting. We tell them to be safe all the time! Remember they were 14 - so young.
Just to clarify, "Catfishing" - is merely contacting someone under a false identity in order to obtain something from them.
Its a form of fraud, usually based under the pretenses of starting a relationship or romantic interest.
Its has been used for many different criminal purposes, such as to obtain money, to defame individuals, to blackmail others, or to obtain sexual favors, and has in a few cases, resulted in murder.
Per wiki
"Catfishing is a deceptive activity where a person creates a fictional persona or fake identity on a social networking service, usually targeting a specific victim. The practice may be used for financial gain, to compromise a victim in some way, as a way to intentionally upset a victim, or for wish fulfillment."
There are plenty of stories , of people that have been defrauded out of thousands of dollars by people they have never actually met, people raped under the pretense of meeting someone for innocuous reasons, and people have even been lured to their deaths by people they never even met .
So an actual physical relationship does NOT need be established in order for one to be catfished .
Yes and in regards to KAK, this where I lose the alignment of the storyline to KAK being a possible suspect. He was obviously getting sexual gratification from catfishing and impersonating himself as a wealthy, good looking hot young guy. In his dreams he thrived on having online relationships with young girls as an ego booster, I’d presume.
So if he planned to meet up with anyone in person, no way would he pass himself off as anything but an overweight dorky unappealing man and the gig would be up. We know of no connection he had to the Delphi trails or bridge so even if he intended to experiment with murder, even though nothing we know of gives basis to that, how would he have known in advance that location would give him the opportunity as opposed to getting busted?
I use critical thinking when I approach cases ..especially cases that I have followed very closely ..and critical thinking says there is zero indication the girls were catfished at all ..
my reason
1/for the girls to be catfished that day..you need a specific set date which is not possible in a spur of the moment trip ( you can argue all you want about the girls deciding in advance but its the sister who made the final decision )..
2/ the first thing that was searched was the phone..and they had no evidence to suggest the girls were catfished that day ( that text ) or they wouldn't have gone and said ( there is no reason to think about catfishing online ) right after ..or to link this creep or his dad or whomever finally to the crime...
3/ a girl wouldn't take a gf to a secret date but lets say she did ..they had a chat before the abduction that was heard by LE and the family and there is no mention of this date ..does this makes sense even ?
4/ the first thing a digital killer would do is to erase his digital print connecting him to the victim and to look for the phone when approaching the victims.. which didnt happen here
5/catfishing usually involves direct rape.. cause that victim was chosen and stalked..the killer wouldn't be able to control himself..but we know this didnt happen here..if he wanted to appease his desires thru kill thrill.. he could have done that with any random victim..also noting the young age of the victims.. we cant say this is a case of an online stalker being angry over constant rejection which also cant be proven here
JMO