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I can’t imagine LE altering it when what they need is for someone to recognize his voice.Audio: Was it slowed down to hear the "words" and therefore is deeper than actual voice? Seems maybe?
I can’t imagine LE altering it when what they need is for someone to recognize his voice.Audio: Was it slowed down to hear the "words" and therefore is deeper than actual voice? Seems maybe?
Let me know if my profile on page #31 has incorrect facts so I can rethink my profile. Anyways, I glad to be here! @MassGuy -- another MA guy here too!
That is some kind of scary. MOOGray just put this new video out an hour ago. I scrolled back and didn't see it posted
Let me know if my profile on page #31 has incorrect facts... (rsbm)
Dear x_files,
Yes, it could be any one of these you've mentioned that needs to happen for the LE to tie this together and make the arrest.
Plus - who knows how much information they have on one or two viable suspects - they just need as you say - one more thing.
I have faith in this investigative team and after watching the recent press conference - there is momentum!
L.E. will get what they need, hopefully sooner than later, but they will get this guy.
May tomorrow be the day for the arrest!
Wow, you are awesome!I’ve compiled a list of all the WS discussion threads for Abby and Libby to date, 1-98:
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Regarding the question why nobody (seemed to have) heard anything. IMO the victims may have been gagged, taped or quickly incapacitated - or - the terrain in combination with a little wind (between 6 mph N and 13 mph W) buffered the sounds?
Here is a map with circles originating form the SE end of the bridge with .1/.2/.4/.5 and 1 mile radius in case someone wants to estimate how far sounds would have carried. The map also includes direct visibility lines (colored) on the trail leading to the bridge:
I would think it would be easy to miss even if there was a lot of blood.
Blood turns brownish, and appears darker as it dries, and may have blended in with the ground, old leaves, or any sticks or branches lying around. Imo
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It might be as simple as one person unbeknownst providing the alibi may need to be interrogated again, and he/she is traveling in Laos, Cambodia, or Tibet, a place without Internet?
I am making totally random assumptions, but it could be that simple. Waiting for the person to come back to ask him/her really scratch the memory.
(Ahahahahaha, you obviously haven’t read back far enough LOL—-all kinds of potential various “syndromes” mentioned!! )
(Ahahahahaha, you obviously haven’t read back far enough LOL—-all kinds of potential various “syndromes” mentioned!! )
DISCLAIMER: First time poster here, in fact, I made profile just so I could my amateur opinion. Many of the things I say will read as common sense, or, a culmination of other things I've read, heard, or listened to that resonated with me. So, please do not thing in any way that I am passing my thoughts off as my own, or, rehashing things that may have been stated 2 years ago. I had to sift thru numerous closed threads that I really would've liked to have read in their entirety, but, alas, I am here to add my own thoughts.
2.) This is not a criminal mastermind. At all. I agree with @MassGuy that this is someone who was extremely lucky to pull off such a high risk offense in broad daylight.
3.) I do not believe this is a sociopath/psychopath, or likely to commit a heinous crime like this again. I think this a god-fearing person with a conscience, and is well aware of right and wrong from a biblical and legal standpoint.
How such a person descended into committing such a horrible crime is beyond comprehension.
He is probably way less mature than his biological age. Probably a teenager in an adult body, and lots of these questions are the norm for teenagers.4.) I do not this person would be described as charming, and, likely is incredibly social awkward around women his own age. In fact, I would venture a guess that this person has had limited, or, no, successful relationships with women. In fact, I would take a guess that this person has likely questioned their own sexuality, and, repressed their own desires in an feeble attempt to satisfy social norms more closely aligned to that which was taught int he bible.
5.) I would guess this person may be described as a bit of introverted, bordering on a loner -- but, does indeed have friends, family, and acquaintances -- but are unable to form close relationships with anyone in their age group, or express what is truly eating away at them.
6.) I suspect this person has deep-seeded body image issues, and, likely rejects themselves from men/women their own age, due to a perceived flaw that is likely not even noticeable. I think they're unable to express themselves and feel overly helpless, unlovable, and, destined to be miserable.
7.) I think this person certainly has ties to the community, and, could've been a former alter boy, eagle scout, an all american midwestern kid. I would guess that women, however, have found themselves uncomfortable around this individual, but few could put their finger on why.
8.) I think this person went to the bridg with added layers to conceal suspicious instruments, and, so they didn't emerge from the woods with blood spatter. I would guess they probably washed up in the creek. It doesn't strike me an organized offender, though some elements seem meticulously planned. I would guess he had binding instruments, some kind of chemical, like bleach, for instance, and a weapon. I think he ideally wanted a single, slightly older victim. And, wanted to do a blitz style attack before they saw his face, but, was prepared to kill if this was required during the commission of the crime.
12.) I am guessing he flashed a badge and/or weapon, and used some plea to authority, knowing that his added life experience wouldn't make it super challenging to overpower, or, trick the girls into a very dangerous situation. I am guessing it was something like:
"Guys, This bridge is very unsafe and you shouldn't have walked across it. Down the hill."
"Guys, I saw you litter. Down the hill to pick it up."
"Guys, this is my private property... Down the hill and "
Some type of authority as an adult, and, to make them feel like THEY did something wrong, when the reality was it was the other way around.
Welcome ejtheintj! In this case, I personally believe this IS the root of BG's problems. Keep your mind open and listen. We have some great physical and mental health members here. I am convinced BG's issues stem from something that occurred about 10 years ago that had a devastating effect on him. What the trigger was/is for this atrocious act he committed, I have no idea. And, I don't think he is serial killer, but who knows. JMO. . . I haven't seen anyone attribute some obscure medical diagnosis that affects like .0001% of the population . . .
I really didn't want to be the one to mention this, but what if "Guys" was spoken after the murders? "Guys, why did you make me do this to you?" Now I'm just off to use the brain bleach.This may have been covered, but I couldn’t find anything on this, so if it has, someone correct me, but do we know for sure that the audio they released was in sequence, exactly as it was said?
Could they have cut some out? Could he have said “Guys, whatcha up to?” “Guys, why aren’t you 2 in school?” “Guys, can you tell me how to get down to the creek?” ANYTHING to strike up a conversation and put their guards down? Because they were talking about the weird guy, and then he shows up behind them. They were probably noticeably freaked out and defensive. He may have said something to drop their guard and at that point they may have thought “Hmmm...he looks a little familiar....” And after letting their guard down a bit then he could begin his attack and order them “down the hill”. It would be easier to subdue them if he somehow gained their confidence, even for a short time. I still think he may have known of these 2 girls, perhaps had seen them attend church, around town, at high school sports, etc.
MOO
Terrifying, because it can happen that quickly they probably didn't feel safe running back across the bridge, I know I wouldn't too dangerous of a drop. They were kinda cornered. Also, it was too late to run.... sleeping with the lights on tonight.