Hi, I've been lurking this thread from the start but haven't posted yet. I actually haven't very active on WS for a long time (since the Charli Scott search in Maui that had such a sad ending) but this case brought me back. I wanted to chime in on something that there seems to be quite a bit of discussion on-- BG's clothing, and speculation regarding his socio-economic status or personality or other traits based on his clothing. I grew up in the midwest and now I live on one of the coasts near a major metro area, so I've thought a lot about the differences in dress in different areas. I think there can also be a lot of misconception about a person if you're not aware of midwestern clothing choices. For example: where I grew up, I had access to a major, modern metro area filled with fashion and the latest trends etc, but I had just as much access to a much more rural, farming/hunting lifestyle. Most of the people growing up in those communities dipped into both lifestyles. For example, a middle-aged man might go to work in the city during the week wearing a suit and tie and crisp shiny shoes, but then be dressed very similarly to BG on the weekend, to go out into the woods to hunt or to the lake to fish, or even just to work on the house or yard. Every single adult man I knew in my extended midwestern family had clothing like BG for those work/recreational purposes, whether he was a lower-class laborer or an upper-middle-class professional. Another thing I noticed after moving away from the midwest: midwestern men have a very recognizable "uniform". This struck me particularly when I flew home to visit and I was looking for my father in the baggage claim, and realized that 95% of the middle-aged men milling about looked just like him. (In the summertime, that would be cargo shorts, a tee-shirt or golf-shirt, athletic shoes, and a ball cap; in the wintertime, work boots, or athletic shoes depending on the weather, jeans, a sensible thick jacket or coat (definitely layers), and, again, the ball cap, or ski cap if it's cold.) My point is that, I didn't recognize my own father until I actually SAW him and then was finally able to discriminate him from the sea of other men who looked JUST LIKE HIM from most angles. My point is also that BG could be a drifter, or a hunter, or a motorcycle guy, or he could also be any kind of professional wearing a pretty typical work/recreational outfit for a midwestern man in the 20-50 age range. I mean, as others have pointed out, even the guy whose property the bodies were found on is wearing a work coat over a hoodie, and a cap. One thing I disagree with, but it's just a personal thing, is that I've heard other posters say they wouldn't have thought anything of this man being on the trail (because his attire isn't anything unusual). And while I agree on the attire thing, I definitely disagree on not being alerted. If I'd been on that trail, either as a girl or a woman, I would have been very alerted to this guy. There's something about his manner (that comes through even in the still photos) that doesn't fit with being there unless it's for something sinister. There's nothing about him that says "I'm just out enjoying a pleasant walk on a beautiful day", or "I'm here to take photographs", or "I'm meeting someone". His manner (not his clothing), to me, says "creepy lone guy" (the same guy, in the same clothing, in a different situation, wouldn't necessarily) and if I'd been there I would have had my eye on him and would have done everything to avoid him. I tend to be overcautious about stuff like that, but my motto is "better safe than sorry" in these things. I suspect that the girls had the same vibe and that's why they used the phone to try to document him, IMO. Maybe they thought they were about to be harassed and/or robbed and wanted proof. IMO, BG probably had no idea what they could do with the phone and was more focused on the fact that they were young and vulnerable and he felt confident they couldn't threaten his security (he was WRONG).