IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #18

[No it's not]

Abby also looked younger than Libby imo and maybe that's why


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IMO he may have grabbed Libby first and she put up a great fight, so he eliminated her. Abby was next..

So very sad. -Nin

 

[DavidC]

I hate hearing people theorizing that Abby was the main target as opposed to Libby.

There is not one shred of evidence as of yet to support a theory that one child was the interest over the other. I get steaming mad because there is this undercurrent that Abby was slim, petite and sweet and our ideal of a 13 year old, and Libby was heavy so therefore invisible to this creep?????? Why couldn't Libby have been his target, and Abby was in the way?

I think they both were his target. He killed and hurt BOTH of them right?



If SM grooming was part of this (NOT IN MY OPINION) It would have been LIBERTY he was catfishing as she had a phone, right? It was her Snapchat acct.

I would never ever tell anyone how to post, but really I get upset when I hear this.

Adding I'm not directing this at anyone.
Don't mean to anyway...

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It IS a distasteful theory.......BUT.......I just think the folks here are trying to get into the mind of a killer/sexual predator.

The theory is nothing personal against either of the girls.

IMO.

 

[Gunther Toody]

It IS a distasteful theory.......BUT.......I just think the folks here are trying to get into the mind of a killer.

The theory is nothing personal against either of the girls.

IMO.

She was likely the main target because she would be harder to catch should she start running away and yes, its because she was thinner and probably a lot faster afoot than Libby.

 

[Avejajed]

You don't have to have anything official to print an obit. We don't ask for proof at my newspaper, anyway. We don't even double check with a funeral home or coroner. We just print what people give us. Sometimes there are typos. What is on the death certificate isnt required by law to be in an obit.

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[ninij9]

I get why your upset, I would be too if someone said that the reason Abby was the target was based on how she looked in comparison to Libby, as a former jock myself there are plenty of guys who love a girl who can kick a soccer ball my reason for thinking Abby was the target was based on her "look" as a whole and the other missing girls in the surrounding area, making my theory a SK not a random one time attack. IMO Libby just looks like a really bad person to target, she is strong and she would not give up, not saying Abby would but physically she would be easier to control. Hope that helps you to understand at least where my opinion a little more.... they were both very beautiful young ladies.

Ahhh, so your thinks ng perhaps this could be part of a bigger picture. I understand. It actually wasn't your post that bothered me. It pops up on every thread and many times it's in regards to her sweet freckled face, strawberry blonde hair and petite stature. Those posts get me down and to me Libby is a beauty. I would have been proud to call her mine. She reminds me of my daughter at that age. All fresh faced and ready to bloom. Sorry if you thought I was attacking your post. This case has me wanting to punch things...

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[whiskers]

When this guy is caught, he may be very different from what you imagine. I always thought people who did unimaginably evil things would look and act like monsters until a friend of my boyfriend was arrested as a serial rapist years ago. I could not believe it. He was a nice guy, married to a beautiful young woman, had a good job, lots of friends. There was absolutely nothing about him that would have set off alarms. Nothing. So people can definitely live seemingly normal lives yet have dark secrets hidden within.

Exactly. Look at BTK. They usually never, ever look like monsters. They blend right in! And that's what makes them scary. moo

 

[ninij9]

She was likely the main target because she would be harder to catch should she start running away and yes, its because she was thinner and probably a lot faster afoot than Libby.

Ah, but Libby by ALL accts was an accomplished athlete. Stereotypes are a danger...

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[Gunther Toody]

Ah, but Libby by ALL accts was an accomplished athlete. Stereotypes are a danger...

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Yeah...okay
She was a hundred pounds heavier.

Accomplished athlete could mean anything.

 

[kittymittons]

I really don't think we need to discuss the girls weight or appearances. It feels icky and unnecessary to me. I think BG is a disgusting person who just gets off on murdering helpless innocent young girls, period. JMO.

 

[Spellbound]

Damn we could start a WS Crohnie club!

*Diagnosed 1983, aged 12

:giggle: I thought the exact same thing. Knew you would catch it right away!

 

[heaterann]

Ahhh, so your thinks ng perhaps this could be part of a bigger picture. I understand. It actually wasn't your post that bothered me. It pops up on every thread and many times it's in regards to her sweet freckled face, strawberry blonde hair and petite stature. Those posts get me down and to me Libby is a beauty. I would have been proud to call her mine. She reminds me of my daughter at that age. All fresh faced and ready to bloom. Sorry if you thought I was attacking your post. This case has me wanting to punch things...

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Your not alone on wanting to get your frustrations out on inanimate objects lol All joking aside in an effort to try to figure out how to smoke this guy out from under the rock he has crawled back under I think its important to try to put the pieces of the puzzle together that we do have and see what we come up with. For me it’s the SK targeted Abby and is riding the rails. Yesterday someone came up with a list of missing girls in the surrounding areas and then someone else put a railroad map on top of that, it was pretty eye opening to the possibility that there is something to this theory. Yesterday was a great day on here which is why I threw my opinion out there again in hopes of starting a conversation about new ideas or directions we could explore today, the maps were great yesterday what can we do today? Because sitting her doing nothing is driving me crazy….

 

[Penny4them]

This area in which this young lady went missing is less than a half mile from another "deer creek" and is along a route in the map created by one of you. No train tracks very close but seems interesting. I think it should be added to the missing persons map that has been created

http://www.wthr.com/article/family-seeks-help-locating-missing-teen

Any long time websleuthers think this girl is the double of Cassie Compton who went missing from Stuttgart a number of years ago?

 

[Perceptionist5591]

Did u see where everyone is saying there is people in this?

I could see it and I have always thought the circle to the left in the back were a person. I think maybe Liberty saw this in the background and happen to take a picture and her an Abby likely headed out, alarmed and had no chance of getting back to safety. JMT.

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

I really don't think we need to discuss the girls weight or appearances. It feels icky and unnecessary to me. I think BG is a disgusting person who just gets off on murdering helpless innocent young girls, period. JMO.

Exactly.

Discussing this topic serves no means to the purpose of finding this monster.

 

[Avejajed]

Stereotypes are dangerous but I'm not really sure a cold blooded killer stops to think if he's stereotyping his victims.

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[Elley Mae]

as a 125lb female senior citizen, i think it was their age/youth, vulnerability. They were kids and easily overtaken. Btw my younger sister was 5'4 344 lbs and never had a problem attracting guys. Just sayin' jmo

 

[kittymittons]

Did u see where everyone is saying there is people in this?

I could see it and I have always thought the circle to the left in the back were a person. I think maybe Liberty saw this in the background and happen to take a picture and her an Abby likely headed out, alarmed and had no chance of getting back to safety. JMT.

Please read the first post of this thread. This has been discussed in hundreds and hundreds of posts. LE has stated they are poles to prevent people from driving onto the bridge, and nothing more.

 

[Rosewater20]

I really don't think we need to discuss the girls weight or appearances. It feels icky and unnecessary to me. I think BG is a disgusting person who just gets off on murdering helpless innocent young girls, period. JMO.

I agree and we do not know what particular evil sick perversions he has.

 

[DavidC]

I really don't think we need to discuss the girls weight or appearances. It feels icky and unnecessary to me. I think BG is a disgusting person who just gets off on murdering helpless innocent young girls, period. JMO.

I have personally never went there................but I am not offended by those who have.

Realize that one of the girls suffered more than the other because she had to witness the murder of her friend and obviously realized she was next. You can't murder two people at the same time.

So to conjecture who may have been murdered first and why is natural.

I just don't think it lends much to the case. IMO

 

[GGE]

Stereotypes are dangerous but I'm not really sure a cold blooded killer stops to think if he's stereotyping his victims.

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Serial Killers almost ALWAYS have a particular "type" actually. A lot of people think he may be a Serial killer... JMO.

But I agree with the sentiment that moving on from weight once again would be pertinent for many reasons. JMO.