IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #66

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Aydrianna523 said:
If the height and weight also seem to match, you can tell the Delphi police and leave it up to them. They probably can check security cameras.
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deedee21 said:
Contact LE. Thats what they want you to do. Tell them the time of day. They will check the store camera. Its their call. Dont let feeling silly hold you back.
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Yeah, I might report it. It's been on my mind all evening. He really did have a striking resemblance to the real pics of BG especially. And no, it wasn't like I was staring at him and made him look at me weird. I am one cool cucumber LOL. But I was walking by and noticed the lift thing and then he turned around and I saw his face the first time and then gave him a once over and yeah, quite the match all around. So then of course I looked at his face again (after oh so casually looking around at the lift thing and up at the ceiling and glancing at the other guy while explaining to the kid in my cart that they were just changing lights, no big deal) and he was looking at me all smarmy. So I smiled at him and the other guy and rolled on by. Didn't take note of his eye color unfortunately. Anyway, it would be easy for them to find him on the cameras and most likely rule him out. I feel silly, but not.
 
minazoe said:
what can't they enhance that frame so we can make out more detail? you can't even tell where his hands are, he's like mush in the picture. his hat is a blur.

FBI? surely something can be done in photoshop to build in the possible details or probable details , shadows etc.

so frustrating.

why is COD so secret? I keep wondering if they were drowned and this is something only the killer would know. i just can't figure out the creek thing.... if they ran across how did he get them both? how did he do it?

MOO
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so frustrating.
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Indeed, it is most frustrating. If BG drowned the girls, then he would have to drag them out of the creek water 50' up a fairly steep embankment to reach the final crime scene at RLs. Water was up to the waist and a bit higher on the rescue searchers. Can't run in water that deep. LG was an excellent swimmer but I don't know about Abby.

I am most curious about the couple seen at High Bridge. Did LE find out who they were? Was there a man dressed in black? Has he been interviewed? How is RL involved? Who is taking care of his horses? Will he lose his 40 acres of prime real estate along Deer Creek due to his lengthy imprisonment? Who benefits from that?

Sgt Holeman stated LE spoke to more than a few witnesses. Where were these people when Abby and Libby needed them? Why were they targeted when others were in the same location that Monday? Were the murders a hit to send a message? Who does that to young girls? What happened to BG a year earlier, on the second Monday in February, 2016? What is the deal with the eye color? His lips are quite thin. Is that an identifying mark? The sketch makes him appear to be hefty, with a big head, yet his head doesn't appear large on the High Bridge. [5'6" - 5'10"] Short guy with thin lips and a big head?
 
kc1023 said:
Earlier I posted about how common it is to see guys that look like BG and sure enough, I just saw a dead ringer at Walmart. Like spooky close. It was him and another guy getting ready to change lights using a high lifter type mechanical cart thing. He saw me eyeing him and gave me the creepiest look. Made me nervous so I walked past and went around the other aisle to get another look and maybe a stealth pic but he was too high up by then. This is in Indianapolis. I'd feel silly reporting it but man oh man it looked JUST like him. Still creeped out tho.
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Please call 844 459 5786.....the tip line. You may be the reason justice is served for Abby and Libby.
Thank you.
 
kc1023 said:
Yeah, I might report it. It's been on my mind all evening. He really did have a striking resemblance to the real pics of BG especially. And no, it wasn't like I was staring at him and made him look at me weird. I am one cool cucumber LOL. But I was walking by and noticed the lift thing and then he turned around and I saw his face the first time and then gave him a once over and yeah, quite the match all around. So then of course I looked at his face again (after oh so casually looking around at the lift thing and up at the ceiling and glancing at the other guy while explaining to the kid in my cart that they were just changing lights, no big deal) and he was looking at me all smarmy. So I smiled at him and the other guy and rolled on by. Didn't take note of his eye color unfortunately. Anyway, it would be easy for them to find him on the cameras and most likely rule him out. I feel silly, but not.
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Months ago...I reported someone in my neighborhood who looked like BG and changed his morning patterns. Don't hesitate to
call in a potential tip. We all want justice for these girls.
 
minazoe said:
what can't they enhance that frame so we can make out more detail? you can't even tell where his hands are, he's like mush in the picture. his hat is a blur.

FBI? surely something can be done in photoshop to build in the possible details or probable details , shadows etc.

so frustrating.

why is COD so secret? I keep wondering if they were drowned and this is something only the killer would know. i just can't figure out the creek thing.... if they ran across how did he get them both? how did he do it?

MOO
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The still from the video was already enhanced, they told us you should have seen it before they did. That is more than likely as good as they could get it.
If he was in control of one of them and instructed the other to go down the hill she more than likely complied out of fear of the other being harmed. Once reaching the creek he could have instructed her to cross. Might be hard to hear what he was saying because of the creek noise. We don't know if LE could hear this. The reason people are having a hard time with him controlling two girls running, swimming I don't think so, across the creek is because he more than likely had control of one of them.
 
Brubon said:
Please call 844 459 5786.....the tip line. You may be the reason justice is served for Abby and Libby.
Thank you.
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Rott Mom said:
Months ago...I reported someone in my neighborhood who looked like BG and changed his morning patterns. Don't hesitate to
call in a potential tip. We all want justice for these girls.
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Ok, I did it! I actually feel so relieved. Thanks everyone for the nudges :)
 
Will the COD be released if they catch the killer and go to trial?

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Shiressleuth said:
I just clicked on the FBI twitter page in the media thread and it mentions a lot of MS13 gang member arrests. These Delphi murders were on the 13th of the month and is a signature for the gang. That is another reason for notifying the crime to the Director if they are already dealing with other crimes connected to the number 13. JMO.
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What!!!
 
kc1023 said:
Earlier I posted about how common it is to see guys that look like BG and sure enough, I just saw a dead ringer at Walmart. Like spooky close. It was him and another guy getting ready to change lights using a high lifter type mechanical cart thing. He saw me eyeing him and gave me the creepiest look. Made me nervous so I walked past and went around the other aisle to get another look and maybe a stealth pic but he was too high up by then. This is in Indianapolis. I'd feel silly reporting it but man oh man it looked JUST like him. Still creeped out tho.
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youtube Officials hold press conference in Delphi murders.
 
kc1023 said:
Yeah, I might report it. It's been on my mind all evening. He really did have a striking resemblance to the real pics of BG especially. And no, it wasn't like I was staring at him and made him look at me weird. I am one cool cucumber LOL. But I was walking by and noticed the lift thing and then he turned around and I saw his face the first time and then gave him a once over and yeah, quite the match all around. So then of course I looked at his face again (after oh so casually looking around at the lift thing and up at the ceiling and glancing at the other guy while explaining to the kid in my cart that they were just changing lights, no big deal) and he was looking at me all smarmy. So I smiled at him and the other guy and rolled on by. Didn't take note of his eye color unfortunately. Anyway, it would be easy for them to find him on the cameras and most likely rule him out. I feel silly, but not.
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It may be him. Let it be LE's call. Hey, you never know. Someone has to be right. Send them an e-mail.
 
Kc1023, was the man wearing Walmart colors? Beige pants and dark blue top? Or was the work contracted out?
 
kc1023 said:
Ok, I did it! I actually feel so relieved. Thanks everyone for the nudges :)
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Good for you. This is how LE rules people in or out.
Walmart cameras are mounted on the ceiling. They will have a closeup of what he looks like.
Funny story. A guy was caught stealing in Walmart. He was escorted to the risk managements office. He was left alone. He removed the ceiling tile and crawled along in the direction of the store exit. He dropped out of the ceiling and ran out of the store.
 
Rule #4 on page one of every thread.

Please folks don't take chances. You noticed him. He could just as easily have noticed YOU.

Ok. Off my "be careful" soapbox now.


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4) If you feel you have a tip by all means phone it in. Do NOT discuss your tip here. Contact the authorities and give them time to follow your lead.
 
Shiressleuth said:
Do people think the video still of BG looks like the sketch? I don't think it does TBH.
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I think: NOT very much. Imagined him different and was surprised when I saw the sketch. Meanwhile I have internalized the sketch (and mostly forgot the video still).
 
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