IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 # 81

[kkdj]

Yall this dude is constantly whipping his Willie out. I don't think he has a pee bag. I think he has a certain way of walking that create a certain pull in the fabric.

And that round of mugshots... they look like a herd of different people! He literally looks different in every one. Forget comparing to a fuzzy bridge pic, he doesn't even look like himself!!!

PLEASE arrest the right person. Libby and Abby worked hard to give us excellent info to find him. Now it needs to happen! Can you imagine if there was no video??? Oh, people would probably be all over accusing family members. I am so glad she recorded it. Good job, babies!!! Good job, you super smart girls. You are loved.

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I have thought the same thing! He looks like a different person in nearly every pic! It's so strange! But this last mugshot looks really mean. One scary looking dude!

 

[Shiressleuth]

Although I pretty much have been a lurker watching this case, wanted to jump in and see if anyone noticed DN 's feet when walking in the video that was posted https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68UZ4apBjbA
When HIS right foot meets the floor, it looks as if his ankle shifts to the outside causing what looks like a limp. I don't know if it's his ankle, knee or his feet turning inward that is causing it. It's hard to explain! I also think the press conference being held at the trail head may be to see if someone they saw on video before may show up again.

You're right. I see it like a kick out and drag onto the inside of his right foot. KN said he had a limp.

 

[JnRyan]

I really don't have any thoughts or expectations that LE will drop some pearl of knowledge on the public for the murders. A few weeks ago Orlando PD had a press conference on the Jennifer Kesse disappearance. A whole lot of talk and a whole lot of nothing of substance. Same detective on the case, same plea for help from the public. BUT it keeps the case alive. Abigail and Liberty's killer would like to see the publicity fade and if all this press conference does is keep the story alive it does good.

I didn't believe in the beginning that the murders in Iowa of the 2 girls there had any connection here. Now I'm not so sure. This predator may not be a resident of the Delphi area. He may have had a grandparent, an aunt and uncle or other relative who lived here and visited on occasion for example. It might be that loose of a connection to Delphi. I've read the numbers - 24K to 26K in tips and I believe one LE stated they 11K in leads. Those numbers in and of themselves create a haystack that can bury a needle.

 

[minazoe]

I didn't understand your comments at first re: the age progression. R u saying that maybe LE used parabon from DNA taken at crime scene then progressed it to an age they thought BG MIGHT be, like, say, 40's? Interesting...

yes, exactly.

 

[heartgoesout]

There was a picture of DN of him sitting holding a baby, I think?? The picture also showed the squareness in his pant leg. Does anyone have that picture??

 

[kkdj]

There was a picture of DN of him sitting holding a baby, I think?? The picture also showed the squareness in his pant leg. Does anyone have that picture??

I've seen it. It looked like a small book in his pocket. What were you thinking?

 

[heartgoesout]

I've seen it. It looked like a small book in his pocket. What were you thinking?

Cant find the pic, but it is consistent with something (what??) always showing in his pant leg. I haven't thought DN is BG, but to me the pant leg doesn't go away and would be the single biggest argument that DN is BG. imo the pant leg is enough to convince me he is.

 

[heartgoesout]

Anyone have any thoughts on DN trying to hide his face while being escorted by police? I'd be interested in the psychology of it. Some strut, some talk, some hide their face, some smirk, some are stone cold, etc...
Do psychopath brutal killers typically hide their face?
I'm thinking back to some other cases I've followed and whether or not the killer hid his face.

 

[minazoe]

he's afraid someone saw him committing another crime or crimes, and he doesn't want to be recognized in the media, MOO

 

[heartgoesout]

he's afraid someone saw him committing another crime or crimes, and he doesn't want to be recognized in the media, MOO

lol lol or...the simplest answer is correct and there is no psychology behind it.

 

[kkdj]

Anyone have any thoughts on DN trying to hide his face while being escorted by police? I'd be interested in the psychology of it. Some strut, some talk, some hide their face, some smirk, some are stone cold, etc...
Do psychopath brutal killers typically hide their face?
I'm thinking back to some other cases I've followed and whether or not the killer hid his face.

I think if I were in his circumstance, knowing I was a known POI on a huge case but not charged so far, thinking I might get out with my hopeful plea bargain sentence, I would hide my face so that when I got out I might not be recognized. I would even suspect his attorney might guide him to hide his face.

I did find it interesting in his new mugshot in IN how stone cold he looked and that he appeared to have gained a bit of weight.

 

[RIP Meagan + Johnny]

There was a picture of DN of him sitting holding a baby, I think?? The picture also showed the squareness in his pant leg. Does anyone have that picture??

Hi heartgoesout,

IIRC, that photo was pulled from a personal (not MSM) social media page and was removed from WS a thread or two back. I don’t think we’re allowed to discuss it if we aren’t allowed to post it. HTH!

 

[Ember123]

Urban Carry

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1byZFVGCnkSK0vkeLY9mJNPrqOpwA_uRQ/view?usp=drivesdk

This is a link to an UrbanCarry. Costs about $35 +/- Maybe BG has one stuck into his pantleg in the bridge picture? IDK. That is how they are used, stuffed into the thigh of pantleg for easy access to pull gun out.

 

[Ember123]

Minazoe, that is so weird to imagine how Parabon could be age-progressed well past a POI's actual age (as in, LE might think POI in his 50's based on a witness or blurry pic,they progress it to that age range, while the actual POI might be 30's) so kind of like looking for a face that doesn't exist in this world ... YET! Yes, Parabon IS very cool, interesting.

 

[Shiressleuth]

he's afraid someone saw him committing another crime or crimes, and he doesn't want to be recognized in the media, MOO

He doesn't mind showing some bits of himself in public but not his face then I guess. Maybe other unreported crimes as you say.
:moo:

 

[Shiressleuth]

I've seen it. It looked like a small book in his pocket. What were you thinking?

Urban Carry

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1byZFVGCnkSK0vkeLY9mJNPrqOpwA_uRQ/view?usp=drivesdk

This is a link to an UrbanCarry. Costs about $35 +/- Maybe BG has one stuck into his pantleg in the bridge picture? IDK. That is how they are used, stuffed into the thigh of pantleg for easy access to pull gun out.

Carpenter square rule imo.

 

[minazoe]

Minazoe, that is so weird to imagine how Parabon could be age-progressed well past a POI's actual age (as in, LE might think POI in his 50's based on a witness or blurry pic,they progress it to that age range, while the actual POI might be 30's) so kind of like looking for a face that doesn't exist in this world ... YET! Yes, Parabon IS very cool, interesting.

I think it's episode four or 5 of the Killing Fields Season 3 on Discovery? blew my mind to watch the Parabon Lab people talking to the LE and showing them the face of their suspect. MOO

 

[Sleuthin' n TX]

I think if I were in his circumstance, knowing I was a known POI on a huge case but not charged so far, thinking I might get out with my hopeful plea bargain sentence, I would hide my face so that when I got out I might not be recognized. I would even suspect his attorney might guide him to hide his face.

I did find it interesting in his new mugshot in IN how stone cold he looked and that he appeared to have gained a bit of weight.

I totally agree with this. Also, remember how KN stated DN was taking her phone and keys from her while they were camping? I think he was monitoring her SM along with preventing her from seeing any news, etc. from IN.

 

[Shiressleuth]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7-hcS5hpMCM

Review of an urban carry holster. Could explain BG pant leg shape maybe.

 

[Betty P]

This!

JMO, he walks as if he's bow-legged and slightly pigeon-toed. It's difficult to tell with the baggy pants he's wearing. I recall from looking at the photos of BG that he, too, appeared bow-legged - the wide hips with the leg bones slanting inward from hip to ankle.