Found Deceased IN - Aleah Beckerle, 19, disabled, Evansville, 16 July 2016 #1

[MzOpinion8d]

Still, with resources including long term care/group homes available, as a mother, I can't understand why some of these parents who do harm to their disabled children (not necessarily this case but in general) instead of asking for the help that's available. Is it the social stigma of "pawning off" your child? I just find it mind boggling.


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Sometimes the additional household income (disability payment) and benefits such as food stamps might be a factor. I'm not saying that's a factor in this case, just something to consider in general.

 

[Dockins]

Sometimes the additional household income (disability payment) and benefits such as food stamps might be a factor. I'm not saying that's a factor in this case, just something to consider in general.

Sometimes, the caregivers can receive payment too. It's often cheaper for the state to keep a person needing care in the home, so there are ways that a family member can be compensated. I don't know if this is the case for Aleah or not. But, for a lot of people, there are financial incentives to staying at home. My aunt received thousands to convert a room for my disabled grandmother, although she spent the money on a new RV instead.

 

[jessarox]

Sometimes the additional household income (disability payment) and benefits such as food stamps might be a factor. I'm not saying that's a factor in this case, just something to consider in general.

This is very true. I know another poor family with a disabled child and having her was akin to winning the lottery. They get disability checks, all sorts of extra benefits, heck they even got Make a Wish to send them to Disney for a week (even though the child is not actually terminal, not sure how they pulled that one off). They have some sketchy things going on (like the dad got in trouble for not paying child support but he currently lives with the family and the mom calls him her boyfriend) but I'm sure they aren't the only family like that.

This is why I questioned whether Aleah's benefits had been cut earlier in this thread. If the benefits were being cut or removed for some reason (not sure what that would be) then it would make sense (financially speaking) to try and get rid of her because caring for her is probably expensive without those benefits.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

"Numerous tips have been provided to the task force and every tip has been investigated. Despite the efforts of law enforcement, search partners, and the community, Aleah Beckerle is still missing."

http://www.evansville.watch/news/ep...the-disappearance-of-aleah-beckerle-continues

 

[meanmaryjean]

This is very true. I know another poor family with a disabled child and having her was akin to winning the lottery. They get disability checks, all sorts of extra benefits, heck they even got Make a Wish to send them to Disney for a week (even though the child is not actually terminal, not sure how they pulled that one off). They have some sketchy things going on (like the dad got in trouble for not paying child support but he currently lives with the family and the mom calls him her boyfriend) but I'm sure they aren't the only family like that.

This is why I questioned whether Aleah's benefits had been cut earlier in this thread. If the benefits were being cut or removed for some reason (not sure what that would be) then it would make sense (financially speaking) to try and get rid of her because caring for her is probably expensive without those benefits.

Make-A-Wish is not just for terminally ill children - although this is a common misconception. It is for life-limiting and other chronic conditions as well- if local funding allows.. Several of my former patients with serious congenital heart defects have been selected for Make-A-Wish.

 

[jessarox]

Make-A-Wish is not just for terminally ill children - although this is a common misconception. It is for life-limiting and other chronic conditions as well- if local funding allows.. Several of my former patients with serious congenital heart defects have been selected for Make-A-Wish.

Hmm, their website needs to be updated then. It says "After a child is referred, Make-A-Wish® will work with the treating physician to determine the child's eligibility for a wish, i.e suffering from a progressive, degenerative or malignant condition currently placing the child's life in jeopardy."

I suppose that statement can be read more than 1 way. It could be that progressive conditions or degenerative conditions or malignant conditions that are currently placing the child's life in jeopardy qualify.

Or it could be read that only conditions that are currently placing the child's life in jeopardy qualify.

 

[cvaldez1975]

my son was awarded a wish and he had stage 2b cancer (not terminal)

Hmm, their website needs to be updated then. It says "After a child is referred, Make-A-Wish® will work with the treating physician to determine the child's eligibility for a wish, i.e suffering from a progressive, degenerative or malignant condition currently placing the child's life in jeopardy."

I suppose that statement can be read more than 1 way. It could be that progressive conditions or degenerative conditions or malignant conditions that are currently placing the child's life in jeopardy qualify.

Or it could be read that only conditions that are currently placing the child's life in jeopardy qualify.

 

[Doghairrules]

Sometimes the additional household income (disability payment) and benefits such as food stamps might be a factor. I'm not saying that's a factor in this case, just something to consider in general.

And I'm not sure what the situation is with available services there, but in North Carolina last time I heard an estimate, there were 9,000 people on the waiting list for services. You pretty much have to wait for someone to die so that a slot opens up. [emoji22]


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[jessarox]

And I'm not sure what the situation is with available services there, but in North Carolina last time I heard an estimate, there were 9,000 people on the waiting list for services. You pretty much have to wait for someone to die so that a slot opens up. [emoji22]


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That's so sad!

FWIW, I don't believe that's the case here. They work through public assistance applications very quickly for the most part. At the very least, they're very quick to tell you that you don't qualify. My dad tried to get food stamps about a year ago and they told him within days that he was denied because he makes too much.

 

[Kairi'sMom]

That's so sad!

FWIW, I don't believe that's the case here. They work through public assistance applications very quickly for the most part. At the very least, they're very quick to tell you that you don't qualify. My dad tried to get food stamps about a year ago and they told him within days that he was denied because he makes too much.

<mod snip> While food stamps might not take very long, other insurance programs and services do because they require paperwork not just from the applicant, but doctors, hospitals, therapists, etc.... And each one requires separate paperwork, you don't just apply and get it all at once. Nor do you apply once for all time. Often it is re-application bi-yearly or yearly. <mod snip>

 

[Hoosier952]

This is very true. I know another poor family with a disabled child and having her was akin to winning the lottery. They get disability checks, all sorts of extra benefits, heck they even got Make a Wish to send them to Disney for a week (even though the child is not actually terminal, not sure how they pulled that one off). They have some sketchy things going on (like the dad got in trouble for not paying child support but he currently lives with the family and the mom calls him her boyfriend) but I'm sure they aren't the only family like that.

This is why I questioned whether Aleah's benefits had been cut earlier in this thread. If the benefits were being cut or removed for some reason (not sure what that would be) then it would make sense (financially speaking) to try and get rid of her because caring for her is probably expensive without those benefits.

If they continued to get benefits, would they still receive benefits if the child was missing?

I know there have been cases where social security has been paid out for many years after a family member died, but went unreported. I assume that could happen with disability or other benefits.

 

[bluesneakers]

If they continued to get benefits, would they still receive benefits if the child was missing?

I know there have been cases where social security has been paid out for many years after a family member died, but went unreported. I assume that could happen with disability or other benefits.

That's a good question!

My daughter's benefits ended when she turned 18. They were from her dad's claim (he still receives them). I don't remember the amount she got but what he gets is based on his years of employment and how much he earned. But in this case it would be her own benefits - likely sent to an account via direct deposit.

I think the payments would end upon her death, but yeah - how long do they last in a missing person's case?

 

[jessarox]

I think this is only for survivor's benefits but it looks like the Social Security Administration says 7 years before a missing person is presumed dead.

https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200304050

I don't know if it would be the same for a disability check, though. I couldn't find any sources.

 

[Tssiemer]

I would say immediately if she is no longer at that residence to benefit from the money. MOO.


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[cvaldez1975]

there are different kinds of social security benefits. there are survivor benefits, which are for minor children of ppl who die, and there is for disabled children.

 

[Hoosier952]

I think this is only for survivor's benefits but it looks like the Social Security Administration says 7 years before a missing person is presumed dead.

https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200304050

I don't know if it would be the same for a disability check, though. I couldn't find any sources.

I couldn't find any information either. I assume there are more than just disability benefits that Aleah or her caretaker could/would receive as well.

 

[Doghairrules]

That's so sad!

FWIW, I don't believe that's the case here. They work through public assistance applications very quickly for the most part. At the very least, they're very quick to tell you that you don't qualify. My dad tried to get food stamps about a year ago and they told him within days that he was denied because he makes too much.

I meant specifically for disability supports.


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[DexterMorgan]

I meant specifically for disability supports.


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Aleah should get disability checks. Since she can't never work at all.

 

[Sheabird]

If they continued to get benefits, would they still receive benefits if the child was missing?

I know there have been cases where social security has been paid out for many years after a family member died, but went unreported. I assume that could happen with disability or other benefits.

I had heard that if the family is collecting benefits on Aleah, I'm assuming they are, that they would still get august check if she was reported missing AFTER July 15th. Not sure if it's any significance but she went missing 7/16 to 7/17. Interesting! Or....atleast she was REPORTED missing 7/17. I think she's been missing longer than that. That's just m.o.o.

 

[Doghairrules]

Aleah should get disability checks. Since she can't never work at all.

Yes, she would get checks but not necessarily the other services that are available to some people with disabilities - like home care, skill building, respite for caregivers, communication equipment, etc.


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