I've seen too much and learned too much to assume ANYTHING. I've learned that a pleasant smile and surface chit chat is nothing more than a pleasant smile and idle chit chat. I do keep in mind, though, that not everybody is a depraved killer. I just don't assume who is and who is not without much more information than surface feel-goods.
Right. I interpreted your point not to be that we shouldn't assume a person is nice if they speak kindly, but instead, that we shouldn't assume that someone "nice" is a safe person to care for our kids.
Molesters are "nice". Predators can be very "nice". Sociopaths are so charming they can knock your socks off. People need to educate themselves about statistics, danger to children and keep strictly to certain guidelines, no matter what, no matter how "nice", when it comes to the safety of their kids. We need more education in this country.
Despite the confession, the little girl's grandmother, Amber Story, stood by Plumadore, a close family friend.
'I don't care what anybody says. Mike did nothing to her. He loves those girls,' she told the News-Sentinel. :banghead:
I agree with those who think this statement was made before Aliahna was found. I remember the statement. IIRC, the Daily Mail is not the most reputable paper.
The brick seems like a makeshift weapon so it sounds to me like it could be a sudden snapping, a loss of temper. And the story seems weak, thoughtless, unplanned. How could he expect that the two girls would back up his story in a believable manner if Aliahna had been dead for a day already when she was supposed to have sleepwalked?
But on the other hand the dismemberment and the storing of body parts in the freezer says something else. Dismemberment is such a cold, unfeeling, gruesome way to deal with the body and the head in the freezer feels like a trophy.
If someone snaps I would not expect them to store heads in their freezer.
I think he raped her horribly, she grew out of control upset and he panicked and believed he had to kill her quickly.
I don't understand why they didn't search that house immediately. They should have found her in the freezer the very day she was reported missing. Didn't LE learn anything from the Jonbenet Case?
You know they can't just go into someone's house without permission, or a search warrant, even if a child went missing from that place. However, I think it is clear that they probably were invited in and did look around a bit. Nevertheless, most people do not hide body parts in their freezers. That is just not something they would likely think of. It is very rare.
It doesn't matter now. What matters is that Aliahna was found and her killer arrested.
I, do however, really like to get an understanding of why things happen and why they don't, which is why I was particularly intersted in understanding exactly why LE could not search the trailer when Aliahna was first reported missing. If we think about it in the most simplistic terms, I would assume an entire house, or apartment or condo or mobile home would be searched just to make sure the child wasn't hiding. But I suppose checking the freezer wouldn't be of the normal places one might look to find a hiding child.
And I am still curious to know what might have been missed or overlooked which led to what appears to be a delay in obtaining a search warrant based on probable cause. Because either there was a lot of blood evidence or a lot of some kind of cleaning solutions in that home when LE arrived Saturday.
Many posters commented all weekend about it being the Christmas holiday and taking time off or not wanting to be bothered. I strongly defended LE.. and admittedly, I am still like a 4 yr old when it comes to questions. I would just really like to understand the delay between obtaining a search warrant between the time Aliahna was reported missing and the time LE was told by the perp to look for her remains in the freezer.
JMO
ETA: krimekat, I'm really not trying to be argumentative with you. I'm honestly/really just trying to understand how a child can go missing on the 23rd and it is not until the 26th, 3 days later they get a warrant. honestly...
You were right. I was angry at LE but they were doing their jobs.
I get the sense that they knew they were on the right track, had strong evidence that MP was the culprit, but wanted a confession and felt they could get it. A search warrant might have halted their efforts at a confession. It seems they spent days with MP, working their magic. I am glad it worked and the is in jail.
From Gitano message, I think finger prints and head are easily identified, so he might have been looking for a more hidden place for these parts.
JMO
Did I understand you correctly, GItano?
I am new on iPad. Pls excuse my sp., grammar errors.
Well, yes. I think MP felt that way, not realizing that DNA evidence is just as definitive as teeth or fingerprints. I do think he likely hide those easily identifiable parts of Aliahna for that reason.
Its hard to believe anyone with children would choose to live in that place with all the RSO,One story says everyone knew they were there..why put your family at risk like that,I know their are people who don't have a lot of money,but there had to be other places to chose from..We have a building where a lot of SO live and NO children are allowed to live in it,its also close to the police station.
I am sorry for Aliahna..she should be playing with all her new toys with her sisters..RIP little one,may you fly high with all your angel friends!!!!
Since Grampa was a sex offender and likely was restricted as to where he could live after his 07" release, that's probably why they went there. I mean, grampa molested a child and they adored him, wanted to be near him and wrote in his obit that he loved to spend time with his grandkids. Kind of tells me where the family is at when it comes to the safety and welfare of the kids in their care.
I suspect that the reason they were concentrated there was because they were attempting to comply with the restrictions of their parole. Often these restrictions are so severe that they all but prohibit SO's from living anywhere but these out of the way places -- if they can find somewhere to live at all.
I am not really in favor of these kinds of restrictions. I absolutely think we need to take another look at the system and situation -- particularly when we consider that laws like this are of questionable value in terms of preventing crime. A registered sex offender didn't kill the Anthony girl, or likely little Lisa, or little Sky, or little Jorely, or Jon Bennet,
or Alianha.
A registered SO didn't kill her, and these laws damn sure did nothing to protect her. And how could they? We know, as a statistical fact, that a child is in FAR more danger from her own family and close family friends then she is from any stranger -- registered SO or not. We know statistically that mothers are more likely to murder their child than any other person, more likely than the neighbor, or dad, or even the dreaded step dad. And further, despite the media telling us the exact opposite, we know statistically that SO's actually have very low recitivism rates -- far below the average for other felons (5% to 9% for RSO's versus 42% for all felons, the lowest recidivism rate for any crime other than murder).
And finally, actually consider this ironic fact. Aliahna lived literally suppounded by registered sex offenders. Damn near every other person she saw was an RSO. She was served up like feeding time at the zoo -- and totally unsupervised. And so far as we know not ONE of them did anything to her. The statistics played out. It was, as usual, her own dear family 'friend', her guardian, that she needed to fear (and perhaps her grandpa).
Something to think about.
(Note: I am well aware that this is more the time for pitchforks and torches than numbers and reason, and that posting the later is probably not going to win me any popularity contests. None the less, there it is.
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Yes, but grampa was an RSO. And he was the connection to her killer. Also, why was MP such a good friend to gramps? I stand by my statement that these perverts know how to ferret each other out. I think MP and grampa had a lot more in common than we know.
Also, the stats on RSOs are as a whole. That includes statutory rape cases, etc. From what I have researched, real child molesters never stop. They are prolific. They may not have a high "recidivism" rate because they aren't getting caught or severe restrictions are being placed on them that prevent them from re-offending. But my belief is that most of the time, they just aren't getting caught.
Look at some of the famous cases we are aware of. The pedophile priests, Sandusky, etc. They molest hundreds of kids and none of those kids say a word. Until finally, one kid breaks the silence. Children are not like other crime victims. They are easy to intimidate. Easy to silence. Just because these RSO aren't getting caught does not mean they aren't re-offending. Apparently there is always a neighbor or family member who is willing to entrust their vulnerable children to such a "nice" person.
HELP
Is anyone listening to the 6 o'clock news to the woman who reportedly warned the family about MP? It's 7 here. Is it 6 there???
Could you please share what she says here? Please and thank you.
BUMP. I'd really like to hear about that as well.
from the article:
And before she arrived, she even asked her father if her children could be at risk for abuse from two specific men — including a suspect now accused in her daughter's death.
Shumaker said he introduced Plumadore to Lemmon shortly after Plumadore moved into the trailer park, and Plumadore moved in with Lemmon a few days later. Shumaker said he knew Lemmon because they were both sex offenders and were in jail together.
Hold the phones . . . I thought he/Plumadore was a family friend & trust-worthy?
Hey, didn't you know that some creepy man who moved into your molester father's trailer that you worried about, can easily become a trusted family friend if molester grampa vouches for him and, if, of course, he seems "nice" when you meet him?
