Just to confirm: CR/MB and JR apt info came from Herald Times.
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/pages/spierer_photos
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/pages/spierer_photos
I think you are looking at the wrong spot. She would have turned right past that wall the one way sign is on the other side of College.
The building on the North side is on the EAST side of College Ave. The opposite side of the street and it is very clear.
However, as someone else said he could have been standing in the doorway.
how is it a fair assumption to say he couldn't see her turn the corner IF LE has NOT confirmed either way?
I would think it is a fair assumption to say WE DO NOT KNOW.
The pictures I was referring to were just re-posted by kissdegirl, so if those are different pictures than you had in mind, perhaps that's the issue.
Regardless of whether it's a "New York City block" (who cares?), the only way he could've watched her round the corner at 11th and College going south would be:
- Standing outside his doorway
- Running up to the second or third level where MAYBE he could see all the way to the corner, in the dark (but probably not, given the angle and the distance)
I think you are looking at the wrong spot. She would have turned right past that wall the one way sign is on the other side of College.
The building on the North side is on the EAST side of College Ave. The opposite side of the street and it is very clear.
However, as someone else said he could have been standing in the doorway.
how is it a fair assumption to say he couldn't see her turn the corner IF LE has NOT confirmed either way?
I would think it is a fair assumption to say WE DO NOT KNOW.
Yes, please post them.I already did a few pages back... do you guys want me to post the private messages he wrote me too? I think 2 or 3 pages back...
We are looking at the same picture and obviously see it differently. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't tell me how to post and what I can and can't assume. We are speculating on information we have available to us, and that is permitted here last I checked.
This is the same picture, further up by the half wall. Again, I see a one way sign, that LS wouldn't have been as tall as. That's what I see. And from JR's apt, I don't see how he could have seen her turn that corner, least of which from a window at night.
We are looking at the same picture and obviously see it differently. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't tell me how to post and what I can and can't assume. We are speculating on information we have available to us, and that is permitted here last I checked.
This is the same picture, further up by the half wall. Again, I see a one way sign, that LS wouldn't have been as tall as. That's what I see. And from JR's apt, I don't see how he could have seen her turn that corner, least of which from a window at night.
I have the right to disagree with you.
When you say it is a fair assumption that he cannot see her then go on to say that LE has NOT confirmed it one way or the other then NO it is NOT a fair assumption.
Have you stood where he was standing and when he was standing and tried looking?
I think it is a fair assumption for someone to say that they do NOT think he could have seen her but we just do NOT know.
BTW you as I can post whatever you want I was disagreeing with your words and not telling you how to post.
Can anyone with more experience than me answer the following?
- Do the Spierers have enough for a wrongful death suit, or would they need a body?
- Does the criminal investigation need to be over before you can file a civil suit?
- It seems the LE has/had enough evidence to make a few drug arrests here, or at least probable cause searches. What are reasons they wouldn't arrest someone on drug charges just to get them back to Bloomington?
I think you are looking at the wrong spot. She would have turned right past that wall the one way sign is on the other side of College.
If I remember correctly people were looking at the wrong block - the one AFTER 11th and college. As I said it was not taken exactly from where he could have been standing, at the same time or of a person wearing a white shirt.
No definitive answer can be made here by anyone as to whether or not it was possible he could see.
Honest question and not to be snide but do you think that LE has not checked his story by standing where he said he was standing?
Here's a view of the corner where LS is supposed to have last been seen from the sidewalk in front of 5 North Townhomes just after dark tonight. The lights on 5 North do not illuminate the sidewalk past the edges of the building, and you can see that delineated clearly in this picture. The sidewalk is just suddenly dark. The intersection is lit up by the traffic light to some degree (a green light in this case) and the street light on the opposite corner doesn't light up the corner that LS was on. The only thing that would have made LS visible would have been her hair and her white shirt, and only then if JR was standing on the sidewalk (or perhaps a balcony-- see Btown's picture above). IMO, there's no way anyone looked out a window into the darkness at the end of this street and saw LS round the corner.
Just to make it clear - we have NO proof that the poster is, indeed, Jesse's brother, but it seems like he is. I'm not naive/gullible. I have some friends in common with Jesse's friends and I really do believe that is, indeed, his brother.
However, I cannot be 100% sure, so it shouldn't be regarded as fact.
Thanks for making this clarification since it's an important one.
I think sometimes people inadvertently use definitive language when speculating about a theory and that's a slip where I can usually tell they are still expressing their opinion.
When it comes to identity on the Internet -- as I think elmomom said last week, though -- any person or group of people can put up a pretense of anything.
As long as we call him the guy who say's he's JW's brother, I'm cool with that.
thanks for posting this. That is the picture that convinced me that it was possible to see her turn the corner from his doorway. lol
And can we all take a breath and relax? We're all friends here, we all care about LS and we all want to see this solved. But we may disagree.