IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #3

[The Smurf]

Nowdays LE can actually pinpoint with more or less accuracy where everyone was assuming they had their cellphones turned on and with them. So if boyfriend went out that night at some long distance from his house with his cell phone (or didn't) LE should know. Of course LS lost her cell phone that night, so they can't pin point her location.

But, if this were the case, why would they not be putting more heat on him? If he were out when he says he were home it would an obvious lie and would put most, if not all of their focus on his whereabouts and actions that night. If JW left his home that night I would assume it would make him suspect #1 and that he would have been brought in for several rounds of questioning, at the very least.

 

[jjenny]

But, if this were the case, why would they not be putting more heat on him? If he were out when he says he were home it would an obvious lie and would put most, if not all of their focus on his whereabouts and actions that night. If JW left his home that night I would assume it would make him suspect #1 and that he would have been brought in for several rounds of questioning, at the very least.

Well maybe he was home all night just like he apparently says. Since LE has 10 POIs, all of these POIs couldn't possibly be involved, so some POIs are obviously innocent of any wrongdoing.

 

[cluciano63]

But, if this were the case, why would they not be putting more heat on him? If he were out when he says he were home it would an obvious lie and would put most, if not all of their focus on his whereabouts and actions that night. If JW left his home that night I would assume it would make him suspect #1 and that he would have been brought in for several rounds of questioning, at the very least.

Police can't really put pressure on anyone, they can only try to keep interviewing them. If they begin to allude that he or anyone else is not being cooperative, then it might tell us something more about who they are leaning towards, if anyone. Most if not all of these people have lawyers now, so LE won't say a whole lot unless they make an arrest, probably.

 

[TonyGatto]

Well it's the same article though, not two different articles. It also appears to be edited, because I can't even find the paragraph quoted in the post anymore. There was one article linked earlier that even got the month wrong, Feb instead of June. When police talked about new video, they gave a time of the video at 3:15-3:30 am. Any videos at 4:30 am would be major development, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. We didn't have any new press-conferences from the police since they gave the time of the video at 3:15-3:30, did we?

As much as the police have been taking a pounding for not being forthcoming, messing up facts -- the media is just as bad. THERE IS NO NEW VIDEO. Even though Indy TV stations are reporting it as such. The video that was discussed yesterday was the same video LT. Parker mentioned middle of last week and Capt Qualters said that flat out. TV ignored that and went ahead and reported new video.

Police may have new leads in the disappearance of Lauren Spierer
Posted: Jun 13, 2011 1:10 AM EDT Updated: Jun 13, 2011 9:18 AM EDT
By Richard Essex - bio

BLOOMINGTON -

MONROE COUNTY - There are new developments to report in the disappearance of 20-year-old Lauren Spierer. Bloomington Police say they have video of an alley on the night she vanished.

Bloomington Police Captain Joe Qualters said, "I'm not going to get into specifics about what we have seen at this point. We have talked about the video we have received and we are not going to release it or talk about it."

The video could contain a key to unlock the mystery of what and where Lauren Spierer was doing in the hours before she disappeared. As we know it right now, at 2:30 am June 3rd she and a friend left Kilroy's Bar and walked about a block and a half to the Smallwood Apartment building where she lives.

Spierer was last seen on surveillance around 4:30am three blocks from her building.

http://www.wthr.com/story/14891050/police-may-have-new-leads-in-the-disappearance-of-lauren-spierer

 

[jjenny]

I agree that there is no new video showing her at 4:30 am. Police have very clearly said the video is of her at 3:15-3:30 am.
I guess the story of her being on surveillance at 4:30 am is so much more exciting, even if no such video exists.
:banghead:

 

[TonyGatto]

I just came here to post this!!



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43375694/ns/local_news-indianapolis_in/

I don't think it's a typo because both of these articles were updated today.

Wow, this IS breaking news.

NO NO NO. The MSNBC report is just lifted from the local affiliate's bad reporting. No new video, no new leads, no breaking news.

 

[The Smurf]

Police can't really put pressure on anyone, they can only try to keep interviewing them. If they begin to allude that he or anyone else is not being cooperative, then it might tell us something more about who they are leaning towards, if anyone. Most if not all of these people have lawyers now, so LE won't say a whole lot unless they make an arrest, probably.

this isnt true. Police can put assign guys to tail him. They can interview him more often than other suspects. They can release certain information in the media to stress him more. There are many ways law enforcement can put extra pressure on a suspect without arresting them. At this point, there is not one piece of evidence that has been released that has anything to do with the boyfriend being involved. You cant honestly say that if they knew he was out of his home when he said he was home that night they wouldnt be pressuring him to help get him to crack.

 

[jjenny]

this isnt true. Police can put assign guys to tail him. They can interview him more often than other suspects. They can release certain information in the media to stress him more. There are many ways law enforcement can put extra pressure on a suspect without arresting them. At this point, there is not one piece of evidence that has been released that has anything to do with the boyfriend being involved. You cant honestly say that if they knew he was out of his home when he said he was home that night they wouldnt be pressuring him to help get him to crack.

In this case though police have released very little evidence. Either the police themselves don't have a clue, or they are keeping all that evidence really close to the vest.

 

[cluciano63]

this isnt true. Police can put assign guys to tail him. They can interview him more often than other suspects. They can release certain information in the media to stress him more. There are many ways law enforcement can put extra pressure on a suspect without arresting them. At this point, there is not one piece of evidence that has been released that has anything to do with the boyfriend being involved. You cant honestly say that if they knew he was out of his home when he said he was home that night they wouldnt be pressuring him to help get him to crack.

I am guessing that the fact he is a POI means something is not jiving between what he told police and what they have learned about his movements, or that he simply can't prove here he was. And I think he went back to NY, at least according to media, so following him would not be of much help.

 

[jjenny]

I am guessing that the fact he is a POI means something is not jiving between what he told police and what they have learned about his movements, or that he simply can't prove here he was. And I think he went back to NY, at least according to media, so following him would not be of much help.

But police have 10 POIs, so at this time being a POIs doesn't appear to mean much. Unless they upgrade one of those POIs to a suspect, we really don't know who exactly do police suspect.

 

[mrsu]

The video could contain a key to unlock the mystery of what and where Lauren Spierer was doing in the hours before she disappeared. As we know it right now, at 2:30am June 3rd she and a friend left Kilroy's Bar and walked about a block and half to Smallwood Apartment where she lives.

The new video puts her in an alley just north of her apartment building about 45 minutes later. However, she is last seen on surveillance around 4:30am three blocks from her building.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43375694...dianapolis_in/

I'm not sure what to make of this.?? Here's what I'm thinking the video they are referring to is the 3:15am alley video which WOULD be 45 minutes after her leaving Kilroy's at 2:30am. That would not be breaking news.

However, I wonder if that next statement BBM is true. If so, it could mean that police do have surveillance from the street that does possibly show her at 4:30am? Maybe they were trying to keep that under wraps?

 

[jjenny]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43375694...dianapolis_in/

I'm not sure what to make of this.?? Here's what I'm thinking the video they are referring to is the 3:15am alley video which WOULD be 45 minutes after her leaving Kilroy's at 2:30am. That would not be breaking news.

However, I wonder if that next statement BBM is true. If so, it could mean that police do have surveillance from the street that does possibly show her at 4:30am? Maybe they were trying to keep that under wraps?

No they don't-pretty clearly appears to be bad reporting. And they even edited that paragraph quoted out of the article, if you now click on the link.

 

[curiousgirl2010]

They need to be better at reporting. It has been appauling so far.

 

[jjenny]

They need to be better at reporting. It has been appauling so far.

Not as bad as media claiming 30 or so child bodies were found in TX, when it turns out a tip from a psychic was wrong and there was no bodies whatsoever. I mean so far we had no reports of any bodies found in this case.
But pretty bad.

 

[Whatever1]

I saw Lauren's mom in a video stating that since Lauren was diagnosed with QT she's exhibited little or no symtoms.

As far as Lauren partying, she just sounds like many other typical college kids. We've already seen that she was charged with public intox in Sept. 2010, so it's obvious that she's probably been out tons of times in public after drinking. So many kids do and so many are just fortunate enough not to get caught or get caught in horrible situations.

I do see that Laurens night of drinking probably didn't help in her decision making, causing her to want to walk alone of wee hours of the night, getting indirectly involved in an altercation, leaving her cell phone, etc. but it still doesn't justify what's happened to her, or excuse the behavior of the person involved in this crime.

I still wonder if she was abducted by a complete stranger, who took advantage of a girl walking alone, or that she may have possibly stopped somewhere else on the way home, making all the other people we've heard about so far, irrevelant in her disappearance.

It just seems like that if is this was a "crime of passion", so to speak, she would have been found by now. It seems if all those who were involved were somehow intoxicated, whether it be drinking or drugs, their cover up would be more sloppy, and so far, there doesn't seem to be much to go.

Sorry for the rambling...

 

[jjenny]

Well to be fair we don't even know if this actually was a crime. There have been cases where college students went missing, and their bodies were found in lakes and such, and it was attributed to accidental drownings after the night of partying. Of course in that case one presumes the body would have been found already, but who knows.

 

[curiousgirl2010]

Either police know a lot more than we think and an arrest will be made soon (POI's involved)... or this might be a stranger abduction and we are FAR from knowing what happened to Lauren.

That's my opinion.

 

[cluciano63]

Unless they come across a video of someone harming Lauren, I am not sure there can be an arrest if she is not found. A bunch of possible jumbled stories does not prove anything at this point.

 

[The Smurf]

I am guessing that the fact he is a POI means something is not jiving between what he told police and what they have learned about his movements, or that he simply can't prove here he was. And I think he went back to NY, at least according to media, so following him would not be of much help.

The boyfriend, husband, lover, wife, etc. is always a POI to begin with. It is clearly one of two things: They know more about him than they are sharing and will arrest him soon or He was home and doesnt have an alibi, thus making it difficult to cross him off a suspect list. Him being home and not with her is not a redflag for me.

 

[illinialum]

From NewsOnLaurenS Twitter, regarding BPD press conference:

"There is a vehicle that has come to our attention. Trying to see if vehicle can be enhanced to identify the driver." BPD Press Conference