Happy to help. Perhaps some of this imagery will be useful. Here is an oblique view of the cabin taken April 02, 2020:
The orthographic view from April 13 shows a burn pit, or is it a well ?to the right and south of the cabin. I'm an amateur, so
looking at these pics, would there be evidence of even an older cabin near this one? We are looking...or should I say BFOD is looking, for an abandoned well.
This area is suspect in my eyes. I am rereading this thread and am on page 11 or so, pretty amazing as around page 2 or so we start discussing the ACs and you can see how they were pooh poohed as some prank. Also the weird coupla posts from an AUSSIE. It's like as soon as we discussed the ACs, he popped up and claimed he met a girl (picked her up at a bar and went home with her) who claims she was with Lauren's boyfriend and he drunkenly confessed to accidentally killing Lauren; and then took us on a wild goose chase to Ohio.
I find this guy suspicious. It was like he was saying, no, don't search the ACs because here I am, an Aussie, saying the boyfriend confessed, nothing to see here folks.
Also, makes me think...some of these criminals are out of jail, better get some dogs out there quick, and also, LE better start watching these people in case they panic and try another body relocation.
Want to thank Vislaw! please stay with us, to my untrained eye I see several smallish clearings on that land.
Could a dog expert come on and tell us what a dog could find after 9 years? I know they are capable but what can we expect?
For comparison, here is an orthographic view of the property taken April 13, 2014:
Feel free to send me a PM with your e-mail and I can send you more high resolution coverage of this area from different dates.
Happy to help. Perhaps some of this imagery will be useful. Here is an oblique view of the cabin taken April 02, 2020:
For comparison, here is an orthographic view of the property taken April 13, 2014:
Feel free to send me a PM with your e-mail and I can send you more high resolution coverage of this area from different dates.
Thank you!!!!Oblique view again from April 2, 2020 from a different angle:
Holy cow!! I just enlarged that last photo and see several spots that seem hinky. We need to sleuth this property, previous owners, and what the local people might know about this VERY BAD VIBE PLACE. Is it just me, or does this area seem weird, evil, or just off? The other day I took Brummett's creek road from 46 over to 45, passed by Baby Creek Rd. and got mega bad
vibes.
Just off the cuff I feel that this spot has been used for decades by miscreants as a hideout. We need to find out who originally owned property there, it's history, etc. There is the abandoned well that property owners told BFOD about. We need to find that well. if there is a well, it will be hidden with something on top of it. if they have thrown bodies down the well, they will want to disguise it.
I'm seeing a genre, not an actual group, who stalk, hunt people. These people may not actually join in with each other every time, but as years go by, they realize each other, and may, on occasion, admit what they have done. They are hunting the same grounds.
I cannot shake the idea that this particular stretch of woods, the abandoned well, cabin, etc,
has been "handed down" and maybe even in the past being owned by someone the suspects worked for or even owned in the past by suspects family.
but does that matter? It's all about recovery, and as I said before, the bad guys have probably already read this. dogs, dogs, dogs.
P.s. How could we go about seeing who owns/owned that cabin/the surrounding property? Should I just approach the closest house and ask them if they know? (Not alone of course, I’d take some members of group with me.)
If nothing else, they might have seen something or heard rumors about the area.
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J
If HT had anything to do with it she sure played it well. Of Laurens circle of people she had by far the most camera time and interviews.Something else to note when considering alternative theories and those who have automatically ruled out any involvement of JW or HT is stories like the Pedro Bravo case.
Here was a guy that murdered his best friend in a car park because he believed he was in love with his best friends girlfriend. He even went so far as to go with her to the police station to report his friend missing, and was her ‘shoulder to cry’ on throughout the ordeal. Evidence eventually led to him being the culprit though.
Really where was HT the night Lauren went missing? She sounded at the time like she may of had a thing for JW. Could that of been motive for making Lauren disappear?
I agree.Please forgive me as I’m only on thread #28 of the Lauren Spierer discussion, so I’m obviously not up to date, but I do feel compelled to state my own opinion on Lauren’s disappearance.
I feel that this IS a case where it boils down to a random abduction, and then possibly rape and murder.
Of the cases I’ve followed over the years this seems to be a far more likely conclusion when it comes to missing young females who’s bodies are sometimes never found.
Of note:
Brittanee Drexel
Mickey Shunick
Leah Roberts
Maura Murray
Brooke Wilberger
Briana Maitland
Holly Bobo
Jennifer Kesse
I really believe Lauren just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, and in a very vulnerable condition too.
There are and have been quite a few Ted Bundy’s wandering the earth, and just maybe one of these many monsters happened upon Lauren.
I agree.
I'm around 70/30 in regards to Israel Keyes. All of the pieces fit -- he was traveling thru Indiana on the day that Lauren disappeared and her body has never been recovered. (Only one of his 11 or 12 victims -- which is only a ballpark estimate given by the FBI -- has ever been located and that was only after IK gave them detailed instructions on how to find her.)
If HT had anything to do with it she sure played it well. Of Laurens circle of people she had by far the most camera time and interviews.
I often wonder about her level of involvement as well as the three gents that Cory and Lauren encountered as they got off the elevator at the apartment.
While others understandably are perusing theories surrounding Hannah's killer and the possible connection to Lauren...I'm sticking with the "original" crowd and specifically 9 North. In my view that is the location from where she went missing.
Something else to note when considering alternative theories and those who have automatically ruled out any involvement of JW or HT is stories like the Pedro Bravo case.
Here was a guy that murdered his best friend in a car park because he believed he was in love with his best friends girlfriend. He even went so far as to go with her to the police station to report his friend missing, and was her ‘shoulder to cry’ on throughout the ordeal. Evidence eventually led to him being the culprit though.
Really where was HT the night Lauren went missing? She sounded at the time like she may of had a thing for JW. Could that of been motive for making Lauren disappear?
Nothing. The family’s latest update was in JuneAny updates on this?
day one here, also. yes the friend of JR who drove home, DB, could have taken her and dropped her any where on the road to Michigan. I can't tell you the hours I spent poking into DB's family in MI. what a bunch of entitled prats. Even after his girlfriend went missing after being in JRs apt, JW, her boyfriend, still bought a building and went into biz w. JR. Years after LS disappeared, another woman was brutally murdered and the perp was all over the exact area, knew the only eye witness(!!) to seeing Lauren smack her head, was in front of the same place and was seen on camera following the cab the murdered girl started out for her house in!
So....we've got the friends who were all up to their ears in drugs, sex, and betrayal running
parallel to vicious sexual predators who know the lay of the land BETTER than the kids or the
cops. But I tell ya, this will be solved.
. Are JR and JW fairly equal financial partners? If one was unlikely to be able to fund the endeavor without the other, perhaps someone’s silence is being rewarded....This is the post I spoke about JR and JW being in business together. Thank you for that information, I appreciate all of your posts. Where can I read more about this/get more info?