JMOO, they have the people who killed Hannah; and most likely Lauren, too.
I agree! Here's why:
1) DM's trial date keeps getting pushed back. The reason for this is that reportedly the prosecution continues to add discovery (information that may support their case) that the defense then has to review (see
http://www.idsnews.com/article/2015/12/daniel-messels-trial-date-pushed-back).
2) DM's case would conceivably be pretty straightforward: the prosecution must establish "means, motive and opportunity." The "means" is a drunk girl who can't defend herself, the "motive" could be anger if she bested him in prior trivia night contests, and "opportunity" could be that he encountered her (randomly or not) that evening. I think we all know that based on his step-father's interviews, and reports that HW made it into her apartment that night (her phone, purse and ID were on her bed) DM knew who she was, where she lived, and he specifically targeted her. So why is this dragging on if it was straight-forward?
3) HW's murder and LS's disappearance, including the same "means" and "opportunity,"
in a small town like Bloomington, where this kind of crime is definitely not the norm, were reported as "eerily similar" by the Bloomington police.
I agree, not sure about beating him in trivia, more likely, she cheered for someone else, etc.
BBM I thought the wording of that was on purpose, IOW, they may have been sending a message to anyone who knew about these abductions but didn't participate.
I mean LE using "eerily similar"?
There was a case years ago, a young woman, maybe only 18-19, Kelly Summers was abducted by a man who followed her from the Wal Mart parking lot after she got off work and tazed her at a 4 way stop. He had been watching her for some time, he was one of those creepy rural criminals
who hang out in the Wal Mart parking lot as they are wont to do unfortunately for undiscerning people who shop there.
Now this horrible man had her in the back of his van, and actually called his wife and brother for help. They brought him rope and blankets and Kelly was still alive and moaning. The bro asked him WTH was going on and his reply, "I got me a girl." iirc, they exchanged vehicles with him!
What absolutely floored me was the help he got from wifey and bro, I mean, what kind of animals
are these people?!
The wife didn't rat him out for almost a year until LE was getting close and found Kelly's shoes at Camp Atterbury, BTW is near where JMW lives.
What also floored me is the wife got off whereas the bro served time. The wife, no matter how scared she was, aided and abetted her husband abducting, then raping and murdering another woman!
The wife said she was terrified of her husband. But the bro knew, too. These people could have saved Kelly's life, instead, he terrorized and killed her in Yellow Wood forest.
Once DM and JMW were arrested. IMO, people talked about both cases, hence the raid on JMWs.
Between the two, there's several step parents,
ex wives, ex girlfriends, and just wait, there will be an ex boyfriend, probs a drag queen, just a wild guess. Once they felt safe, they talked?
Or are there more people LE wants for this? IMO, LE leaked that info to MSM about the snitch in jail.
Back to Kelly Summers, IMO LE waited til they had just the right evidence, then probably told the wife that since they had this evidence, hubby was more likely to kill her at that time.
Lots of good country folk around here, but also some heinous doozies. Most of these rural burgs out there, you would never catch me in one after sundown! and that's purely from experience, no guessing there.
All this to say I agree with you IMH
Was rereading Hannah's thread, and iirc Ros posted about the gay men's sites DM had on his
computer. and the hinting by LE about the bad relatinship DM had with Mom. How could a 3 year old have a "troubled" relationship with his mom?
Sounds like he was a molested child. Who hated his mom for not saving him. Who might have hated his mom for fleeing a bad situation.. MSM says he went on to live with stepdad, maybe he didn't have a choice.
Now where did DM go after killing Hannah? He didn't have a phone, so he had to actually drive somewhere and talk to someone who was already on his phone, and a recent contact on his phone.
Maybe it was the neighbor who turned him in?
He would have used the neighbor's phone to contact whomever he was running to.
My guess would be--Terre Haute.