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Now alot of the games I haven't played but watch my sons but now you just gave me a new way to read the ransom note..But I have a daughter..
 
Now alot of the games I haven't played but watch my sons but now you just gave me a new way to read the ransom note..But I have a daughter..

well thanks -- you mean my forensic profile of you is actually right? lol.

Yeah if marlon brando look alike and the Godfather of the mafia approached a family said "You're children need our protection"

"No thanks"

"Providing 24 hour protection for your children is exhausting, I'd advise you to reconsider our generous offer. We ask $118k in unmarked bills in an adequate sized attache, and your children will be safe. We ask you not tell the police, otherwise we can't guarantee if someone bad gets them"

"Isn't that right, Tony"

"Yeah boss"

"Tony here agrees with me"
 
What the note said:

'The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested'

What it meant:

'I'll be long gone while you & LE are running around to the bank and waiting for a phone call.'
 
What the note said:

'tomorrow will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested'

What it meant:

'I'll be long gone while you & LE are running around to the bank and waiting for a phone call.'

I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange and earlier delivery of the money and
 
Me, too. Federal Witness Protection and all that...


Don't underestimate middle-aged mothers of daughters, Voynich. Some of us are, well...testy.
Remember, we're out of estrogen. We're BEYOND testy. We're extra-fancy testy. We're testy with a cherry on top.
got that right ! LOL!

don't underestimate what women overhear,either.while listening to my ex on the phone w his friend,I picked up on a few things he said,then emailed his friend on that note,and his friend *thought it was him.I was able to find out quite a few things.OOPS!!
my point??Patsy could have overheard things JR said,things like his bonus amt.,and ppl he wasn't getting along with,etc.,and she could have used that in the note,just based on what she'd overheard.she need not have actually seen a check stub or anything like that...just living in the same house might have been enough.
 
I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange and earlier delivery of the money and

Oh yeah, thanks. The delivery will be exhausting. Point being that LE and JR were supposed to be preoccupied with resting, getting money, and waiting for a phone call instead of finding JBR or alerting airport/border security.

What do you think about the 'high ranking military' idea anyway?
 
here's a thought...why not just TIE UP Patsy,John and Burke???? no intruder would take such a risk w JB,knowing the rest of the family was upstairs.he'd get her out,ASAP! tying up the family (you IDI's do say there was plenty of rope....) would give time to carry out a plan and ensure JB was well out of the area,as someone would come looking for the rest of the family..but only on the next day.that would give plenty of time to make sure none of the R's would be interfering until then.
 
Well actually I know Be advised we have a kidnapping in progress the little girl has blond hair and blue eyes and last seen wearing but see I didn't know that they blocked off the routes I thought they just blamed the parents that second...
 
Well actually I know Be advised we have a kidnapping in progress the little girl has blond hair and blue eyes and last seen wearing but see I didn't know that they blocked off the routes I thought they just blamed the parents that second...

Correct. They aired a description of JBR. What good does looking for JBR do, when she's dead in the basement? Clearly, LE was given the wrong description. LE was misled.

Regardless of IDI or RDI, LE was led to believe there was a kidnapping in progress, and they would naturally be looking for a blond hair blue eye 6 year old girl. Although I'm told she didn't really have blond hair or blue eyes.

Suppose that JBR was discovered in the basement right away. What would then go on the LE radio?
 
Wow,You right... Thank you for opening my eyes.The LE was misled on the description.I have never thought of that..
 
here's a thought...why not just TIE UP Patsy,John and Burke???? no intruder would take such a risk w JB,knowing the rest of the family was upstairs.he'd get her out,ASAP! tying up the family (you IDI's do say there was plenty of rope....) would give time to carry out a plan and ensure JB was well out of the area,as someone would come looking for the rest of the family..but only on the next day.that would give plenty of time to make sure none of the R's would be interfering until then.

Why wake them up? And how would JR then be able to get the ransom money? There was not that much of a risk---intruder would have had some idea of his escape plan if the family woke up. I do think he took her in the basement as far away as possible from the family, and near where he entered the house. Lou Smit's theory is the intruder didn't know if the alarm system was on...but knew the basement window he entered was unarmed, so was going to take her out that way, but couldn't.
 
I always thought the first thing to do in a kidnapping is to block off every escape routes...

That's what JR wanted done---he said his was instinct was the police should block off escape routes. The BPD was scrambling looking for a kidnapping training manual, from a class one of the cops had taken.

Perhaps the police should have looked in the neighborhood--JR said he saw a blue van sitting in the alley behind the Barnhill's house. That would have been a perfect location if someone were watching the house.
 
got that right ! LOL!

don't underestimate what women overhear,either.while listening to my ex on the phone w his friend,I picked up on a few things he said,then emailed his friend on that note,and his friend *thought it was him.I was able to find out quite a few things.OOPS!!
my point??Patsy could have overheard things JR said,things like his bonus amt.,and ppl he wasn't getting along with,etc.,and she could have used that in the note,just based on what she'd overheard.she need not have actually seen a check stub or anything like that...just living in the same house might have been enough.

lol i didn't realize how many i have outed!
I admit i don't watch Jon and Kate plus 8, or Sex in the City, Pretty Woman, Titanic, 16 candles, Dirty Dancing. But I'd imagine that would be more to your liking than say WHo IS the Deadliest Warrior?

Terms like countermeasures, deviaton, scanned, monitor, attache I think of James Bond and Mission impossible. While women could watch this, men could watch the L-Word. I don't have HBO otherwise, L-word now that's a chick flick I could actually enjoy.
 
Now alot of the games I haven't played but watch my sons but now you just gave me a new way to read the ransom note..But I have a daughter..

So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view
you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view
 
And I really look at you all view points,sometimes I don't agree but sometimes I do..I really wish we could at times just look at this case not as RDI or IDI'..
 
And I really look at you all view points,sometimes I don't agree but sometimes I do..I really wish we could at times just look at this case not as RDI or IDI'..

I once thought as you do. It is too late for me, Ravyn.
 
That's sad cause this is all about JonBenet..But maybe I get lucky and get newbie's to talk to me not as RDI or IDI...Voynich,always stay true to yourself...
 
That's sad cause this is all about JonBenet..But maybe I get lucky and get newbie's to talk to me not as RDI or IDI...Voynich,always stay true to yourself...

I have suggested (1) getting a group of new handwriting experts whose judgment and methodology is accepted by all sides prior to analysis, and (2) all exemplars, including those by the public at large unconnected with the crime, provide written exemplars in used wide tipped felt marker, and using double blind testing, possibly include volunteer incarcerated forgers, see whether they would identify PR.

It would do no good to say, here's PR's handwriting, and here's the RN, is it a match? "uh sure"

If they can identify PR as the closest match to RN among 70+ samples all written on a used sharpie then I would accept this and PR as the author. Of course if they find 20 other samples they think is a closer match, and post it on the internet for all to see, what does that tell you?
 

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