marycarney
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Case closed, in my book.
Jc & kids went to 'witness's house' @ 7:15 that am w/ both kids...not dressed for the cold, & talking to her about 'demons'....they appear to b basing this 'mental illness' theory upon this one witness....that was one of the post-press questions....why, by evert single PUBLIC account, she was 'happier than she had ever been'....they would only site this one witness, who was the last person to c them alive....this is not good police work....there is no forensic marker for 'mental illness'....the coroner, knable, was specific that the 'mental illness' was contributing factor to 'death by hypothermia....? very disturbing.....i feel worse after witnessing the fiasco. there is MAJOR cover-up hear...police chief, coroner, etc...looking to one another after each question, w/ much hesitation & unprofessional delivery of their answers....none of which seemed scientifically sound....IMO...so sad. but they all did agree on one thing, this case is still going to the grand jury, & this press conference was released BEFORE they have given ANYTHING regarding their investigation to prosecutor hendrick's office!!!! the whole idea of a grand jury is based on secrecy & a prosecutor may seek theGJ if he does not want facts about the ongoing investigation released to the press. i would not think it prudent in the Chain of Command to hold this press conference without his knowledge, knowing it is GJ bound?! IMO>>>
Wow... well maybe many of you were right and I was wrong, but how did they determine she suffered from a major mental illness?
Wow... well maybe many of you were right and I was wrong, but how did they determine she suffered from a major mental illness?
Hmm almost the same wording as what she was allegedly like at the witnesses home at 7 am that day. Also the same wording used in the press conference. Usually different witnesses will use different wording.
I hope there is a statement from the family soon.
If she believed she was being "stalked by demonic presences," the preacher evidently took her literally and made his statement about "odd and unexplained" incidents in the apartment complex about those "presences."
No mental health care possible from that direction then, if so.
(smh)
If she believed she was being "stalked by demonic presences," the preacher evidently took her literally and made his statement about "odd and unexplained" incidents in the apartment complex about those "presences."
No mental health care possible from that direction then, if so.
(smh)
From the press conference - in addition to all the interviews of relatives and friends, they also hired independent mental health professionals to assess the case.
The person who she visited that AM let her take the kids out of their home with the kids clad only in pajamas on that cold morning? They didn't call LE or the hubby?
She might have heard noises she couldn't explain - perhaps perfectly simple to explain by someone who'd lived at the complex for a greater length of time - and, in her illness, interpreted them as something demonic.maybe there was a spirit/ghost in their apt. for real & she percieved it as demonic? i would still think she would have saught prayer/exorcism? IMO
Thanks for all the updates!
Well, I can say this information does not answer all the questions or give a definitive conclusion for me.
You cannot make a diagnosis of mental illness or postpartum psychosis on the basis of one random witness who is not a doctor or psychologist or psychiatrist, especially when the person involved is deceased.
I certainly want to hear the husband's and parent's reactions to these conclusions by this police department, basing it on their interviews when previously they had all said just the opposite.
And I am glad Mr. Henderson will still have the grand jury. Even if the process is in secret, he said he would either make charges or make a report to the public.
BBM. I agree, and I'm glad that's not what they did. Rather, they interviewed multiple people who knew Jaime, including her parents, who reported that Jaime displayed symptoms of mental illness, and they also hired independent mental health professionals to assess the case.
Quotes, links, and video of press conference posted above.
Call me a skeptic (I think that's what Jamie and the kids deserve), but this doesn't really say the experts concluded Jamie had PPP or what the evidence is of that. It merely states that they were hired to consult and that "that mental disorders can be intensified when subjected to cold temperatures"The expert indicated that mental disorders can be intensified when subjected to cold temperatures, thus further impairing one’s mental status and or judgment,” Knight read in her statement. “These findings all support the Kentucky Medical Examiner’s conclusion that exposure to the cold weather was a significant contributing factor in the drowning of Mrs. Clutter.
...The police department hired independent experts Diana Lynn Barnes from the Center for Postpartum Health in Sherman Oaks, Ca., and Dr. Daniel F. Danzl, from the University of Louisville Medical School, to help with the investigation.
If she believed she was being "stalked by demonic presences," the preacher evidently took her literally and made his statement about "odd and unexplained" incidents in the apartment complex about those "presences."
No mental health care possible from that direction then, if so.
(smh)
When asked what Michael Clutter might how known about his wifes condition, East wouldnt speculate, saying that he may or may not have seen the signs of the disorder.