Is Casey the real Zenaida?

[Whisperer]

I have no buttons or smileys but this quote is from Seagull:

<<"that's true, I did noticeI that he was way off from how she had described the ZFG (she had said like 5'7" 140lbs, I think he said she weighed 100lbs or something, I think he said straight brown hair, too, now that you mention it.) I was just thinking he'd forgotten how KC had described her but that is interesting">>

Kc, IMO, was describing Nicole Ganguzza who was murdered in Blanchard Park on Jun 9/10. kc had originally described "zanny" as part Black and part Puerto Ricon, which the victim was...she had no tats, wore her hair straight and was from a rich family, etc. ....exactly kc's first description of nanny. When I saw Nicole's PIC, she fit the description that kc gave.

+++++
For Shgbker.
The acccident occured near Tampa because Ca asked kc if zanni was taken to Tamp General

 

[shgrbkr]

I think they have enough to seal the deal too, but oh.. to totally shoot down KC's only defense thus far would be a wondeful thing.

Baez's arguement - the zanny did it

the Pros arguement - Yes. Zanny DID do it, and KC IS Zanny, and here's the PROOF! POOF...off to the big house KC goes for the rest of her sorry life.

ITA that KC is done, though what great icing on that 7 layer cake to be able to shoot down the whole Zanny did it wall that the entire Anthony family has built!

 

[Gypsy Road]

that's true, I did notice that he was way off from how she had described the ZFG (she had said like 5'7" 140lbs, I think he said she weighed 100lbs or something, I think he said straight brown hair, too, now that you mention it.) I was just thinking he'd forgotten how KC had described her but that is interesting.

But Seagull, didn't Casey also say that Zeneida had a straightening iron or something and wore her hair both curly and straight depending on her mood or whatever? Maybe that's what Lee was thinking about? I don't know.

And KC prolly weighs over 100 lbs - if Zanny only weighed a 100 lbs - KC could have whooped her arse, no? Lee was confused about the hair and the weight.

 

[Nagasama]

I just checked mine out too (I'm a Florida resident). It's valid for 6 years.

Just a side note. This is funny actually. I have an older sister who is a very safe driver who has never had a ticket. Because of this, Florida allows her to renew her DL through the mail. I kid you not...the woman will be 49 this year, but the pic on her license is still the one that was taken when she was 30 years old! Now please! With all the strict laws FL has on DL's - this is one area they seemed to have over looked! My sis has the big 80's doo and everything in that pic - doesn't even look like the same person!

Mine too. Very old picture and a terrible one at that! But the wait at the Florida DMV is ridiculously long....I don't think your record has to be all that good to renew licenses online, either. Mine's not great, I used to drive the interstate for work a lot and have had my share of tickets, resulting in a suspension and I still renew online and get a new license with the same old picture. The suspension was a result of a ticket being lost that I was trying to pay. I had my copy of it. It never showed up online when I tried to pay it and I made several calls to the DMV and issuing county to try to pay it. One day, a year later...they found it and suspended my license with no warning. By the time I received the letter telling me my license was suspended, I had been driving that way for two weeks. I think the DMV is probably significantly under manned for the population here in Florida. My conclusion is that a lot slips through the cracks.

 

[Whisperer]

I think the family knows kc is "zanny". When Ca asked kc, "What do you want to say to Zanny?", kc says, "We forgive her". Well, if that wasn't a red flag!. Now, Lee says he believes "everything" his sister says..hmmmm. Looks to me like the family thinks kc is the nanny and did kill her. Now, they are convinced she has a dual personality or alternate ego, whatever, it makes it easier for them to accept the, otherwise, unacceptable.

 

[usabound]

Hello there,
Was just going through some documents and came across her cell phone records. What I found interesting was the on July 9, 2008, at around 5:09 P.M. she places a call to Jeffrey Hopkins, this is THE only call that was placed to him in all the cell phone records available, my question is, do you guys think that she was already trying to set up her alibi with the babysitter watching Jeff's kids and such, and that's why she called him? I mean, surely there would of been a record of her calling him on the day Caylee went missing or something. My brain is completely fried trying to figure all this out.

Here is the link to the cell phone records, its on page 59 towards the bottom.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

 

[natsound]

If KC is really Zanny the Nanny and she had to come up with a last name-----

does anyone else find it interesting that the remains were discovered on property behind houses where the one side was Fernandez and the other house Gonzales?????


Makes ya kinda think hmmmmmm..........................

Secret, that is a delicious theory and would seem to make sense if it weren't for the unavoidable coincidence that the real Zenaida FG visited Sawgrass Apartments on June 17th, right when KC knew she needed to start building an excuse. And correct me if I'm wrong, but ZFG looked at the exact same apartment that KC said she brought Caylee for babysitting.

KC knew what ZFG did that day. She either watched her or got her name from the visitor's card.

I surmise that KC was obsessed with being a nanny, and yes KC is Zani the nanny. But she had been following/tracking this particular ZFG for some time, for some reason. When the time came for KC to do her dirty deed, she used ZFG as her scapegoat.

Her description of the real ZFG is someone that KC aspires to... she's a nanny with a lot of money, not tied down, Hispanic.

I hope and pray that LE has already figured out how KC got ZFG's name from Sawgrass.

 

[natsound]

Hello there,
Was just going through some documents and came across her cell phone records. What I found interesting was the on July 9, 2008, at around 5:09 P.M. she places a call to Jeffrey Hopkins, this is THE only call that was placed to him in all the cell phone records available, my question is, do you guys think that she was already trying to set up her alibi with the babysitter watching Jeff's kids and such, and that's why she called him? I mean, surely there would of been a record of her calling him on the day Caylee went missing or something. My brain is completely fried trying to figure all this out.

Here is the link to the cell phone records, its on page 59 towards the bottom.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

Without going back to look at old interviews, I believe that call was to Jeff Hopkins Sr., the father of her old friend Jeff. You're right, KC may have been trying to set up an alibi at that time, and she thought she was calling her old friend. IIRC Jeff Sr. didn't get the call, it rolled over to voice mail or something like that. He was interviewed and said he had never met KC and never heard of her.

 

[usabound]

The more I look over the phone records, the more it makes me want to puke. Just knowing that poor little Caylee was in the trunk decomposing, while she is on the phone to all her friends, and Fusian, and JC Penney planning her next "party session". It just makes me ill.

 

[usabound]

Hi, thanks for that. I never actually heard it could of been Jeff Hopkins Sr. I just amazes me the lengths this woman will go through to get a cover story/alibi in place. Honestly, all joking aside, I would sincerely like to know what KC wants out of life, because of all lies and deceit and stealing, REALLY, what was her goal in life? Did she actually have any "real" dreams or desires? Truly fascinating....

 

[natsound]

Hi, thanks for that. I never actually heard it could of been Jeff Hopkins Sr. I just amazes me the lengths this woman will go through to get a cover story/alibi in place. Honestly, all joking aside, I would sincerely like to know what KC wants out of life, because of all lies and deceit and stealing, REALLY, what was her goal in life? Did she actually have any "real" dreams or desires? Truly fascinating....

usabound, I believe the quick interview with Jeff Hopkins Sr. is in the first doc dump. It shouldn't be hard to find. I'd link you to it, but with two young'uns about to wake up, I don't have time!

Oh yeah, and remember... she had seen her old friend JH at a bar sometime after Caylee disappeared/was murdered. They just said hi and chatted a little bit. I believe that's how the seed was planted to pull JH into this mess.

 

[shgrbkr]

Secret, that is a delicious theory and would seem to make sense if it weren't for the unavoidable coincidence that the real Zenaida FG visited Sawgrass Apartments on June 17th, right when KC knew she needed to start building an excuse. And correct me if I'm wrong, but ZFG looked at the exact same apartment that KC said she brought Caylee for babysitting.

KC knew what ZFG did that day. She either watched her or got her name from the visitor's card.

I surmise that KC was obsessed with being a nanny, and yes KC is Zani the nanny. But she had been following/tracking this particular ZFG for some time, for some reason. When the time came for KC to do her dirty deed, she used ZFG as her scapegoat.

Her description of the real ZFG is someone that KC aspires to... she's a nanny with a lot of money, not tied down, Hispanic.

I hope and pray that LE has already figured out how KC got ZFG's name from Sawgrass.

IIRC, wasn't there also some sort of connection that both KC and ZG had to the tattoo parlor? Seems I remember some sort of WS discussion that KC may have picked up her name and/or other details about her there, though it's been a few months since all that was a topic of discussion.

 

[darlin gal]

I think KC is the one who broke into the Zenaida Gonzalez' office at UCF late on June 9th. I think she needed ID to go pay that ticket which was coincidentally paid the 11th of June. Then the very next day on the 12th of June she spent some time looking at the myspace for this person as well to have some background info to make her story sound more believable.

The ZG that had her office at UCF broken into was a councellor where also coincidentally Cindy was seeing someone. Too many coincidences I think.

Do you or anyone have a link about where the ZG's office was for a fact? Or that she worked as a counselor?

All I have seen is speculation that the ZG's office that was broken into was at UCF and that she was a counselor.

I read ZG's post about the break in on the Brevard County Mom Logic web site and it mentioned neither fact. The article implied that the whole office's computers and electronics were stolen...not just hers. She does not mention in the article that any ID or license was stolen. She mentions that she was worried about her home being broke into because all employee names and addresses were in a file on her employers desk.

She writes articles almost daily for the website, so I assume she lives in Brevard County. She more than likely works in the same area being as she has a young child.

 

[Valhall]

Okay, to clear up the issue on whether the ZG22 driver's license could have been expired or not, I've reverted to 9/11 investigations...lol.

Look at this webpage:

http://www.sptimes.com/News/121401/State/Requests_for_Florida_.shtml

About halfway down the page is a pic of Ahmed Al Haznawi's drivers licenses - he got duplicates made, but they are the same expiration date (i.e. if you lose your license and get a duplicate made it still expires on the same date). Note that his birthday is on 10/11. Note that he is getting both of these driver's licenses in 2001 (should be same year ZG22 would have got a learner's permit at 15-1/2). Note that the expiration date is six years FROM THE DATE OF BIRTH. So Haznawi's was going to expire on 10/11/07.

So, for ZG22, if the license was first issued mid-year 2001, the license would have expired on 01/11/2008 (i.e. birthdate coming up would have been 01/11/02 + 6 years = 01/11/08 expiration date). This would have placed the driver's license 13 days past the 4 month grace period written into the Florida Statues.

 

[Valhall]

Also, I'd like to share that I've reviewed the property records on the address listed on ZG22's driver's license. The house was purchased by the couple in New York in January 2006. Prior to that (i.e. during 2001 when ZG22 would have gotten her driver's license) it was owned by a single woman who ran a real estate business out of her home. She bought the property in April 2001.

Her name is not "Gonzalez", or even close to it.

 

[smolea]

I am still catching up on this thread, so if this has been mentioned already, sorry. I seem to remember when KC's bond was being posted, that there was some issue with a small additional amount that had to be paid in addition to the large bond. It could have been in regards to the check charges, but just thought I'd throw that out there. $100 sounded familiar...

Hmmm, August 20th LP posted her bail.

8/20/2008 A AL ESTES BONDING AGENCY FILED RET TBN CT 1-$500,000 #FCS500308507 INMATE# 08034750
8/20/2008 A AL ESTES BONDING AGENCY FILED RET TBN CT 2-$100 #FCS10315199 INMATE# 08034750
8/20/2008 A AL ESTES BONDING AGENCY FILED RET TBN CT 3-$100 #FCS10315200 INMATE# 08034750

IIRC, there was a hold up on her bond the first time...could this be why?

August 18, 2008 - Someone pays $4.00 for copies of documents associated with her 05/24/08 driving without a valid license citation. This will be the last payment activity ZG22 has on this charge.
Court changes status of ZG22's case to "Prosecutorial".

August 20, 2008 - Blink34, who has been watching this traffic case since July notices that the case is showing delinquent and bring it to the attention of "a source in Orlando" pointing out that if there is a connection to the KC case, there's about to be a bench warrant issue.

August 21, 2008 - The case file has been updated retroactive to show that ZG22 made a $100.00 payment on 08/15/08 to the Collections Court on the 05/24/08 driving without a valid license citation. This is also the same day KC is released from jail to home confinement. If the payment had been made on 08/15/08, there would be no explanation for the status change to "Prosecutorial" on 08/18/08.

it's all coming together....:dance:

 

[MAMABEAR]

There are a couple of women with the name "ZG"

KC just does Not understand... She made there lives miserable !!!!
KC Does NOT CARE !!!!!!!!!

Yes.... one "ZG" went to the SawGrass Apts !

Yes.... One "ZG" had a one line MOM's Chat...and her OFFICE
was robbed.... on June 9th....
also....
a woman counselor..... was KILLED in JAY BLANCHARD PARK....


SO............. all the names.....
all the
places.......

A L L ......... the lies.....

**** BUT GOD SAW IT ALL ~~~~~~~~
He is going to have
ALL the PIECES FIT TOGETHER>>>>>>>>>>>>

For JUSTICE FOR LITTLE ANGEL " CAYLEE"
and
KC & LA can just keep believing in each other....
till
the sun goes down.... on them in "JAIL ! ! !"

KC might think she is "ZG" she might think she is ZANNY...
KC Might think the REAL "ZG " killed Caylee....

but.... the EVIDENCE WILL PROVE.........:dance:

who the REAL " ZG = killer" is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMO

God Bless ALL who seek JUSTICE for Little Angel "CAYLEE"
jjgram

Mornin jjgram

HMMMMMMMMMMMM. Do you think there is is a connection to KC and the jogger? That has been on a shelf in my brain from the beginning.

 

[sarah7855]

Blink had a theory that AD and KC (posing as ZG22) were riding in the same car - AD's car. And that when they got pulled over by a car with two officers in it, one gave KC/ZG22 the driver's license citation and moving violation, and the other gave AD the ticket for not wearing a seat belt. I looked into his theory and this is what I found out...

The deal is that Florida state law states that unless you are under the age of 18, or a child who requires a child restraint, tickets for no seat belts will not be given unless they are secondary to another traffic violation. If you look at AD's citation, there is no other traffic violation. So she either got stopped for one thing (like speeding or running a red light), didn't get a ticket for what she got stopped for, but then got the no seat belt ticket...OR, she was a passenger not wearing a seat belt when the driver of the vehicle got stopped.

First, I've gotta say it...wow! excellent sleuthing!
Second, this is probably going to bite me in the butt for not reading all the way through the thread first, but the scenario above happens in Orlando all the time...you may get stopped for speeding (or something else), but the officer "goes easy on you" and gives you the seatbelt fine if you aren't wearing your seatbelt.
Ok, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents, I'm going back to the first couple pages of the thread now!

 

[IRule254]

Maybe, just maybe....these pictures are relative to tomorrow's Motion hearing....Casey took pics of herself in disguise.

I need a vacation....

Crazy theory, I know, all of this makes my head spin...but..I always had this feeling that KC was, indeed, trying to "be" Zanny and that she did this primarily so that if she was ever caught and asked to take a polygraph, she would pass it..after so many times of repeating the same story and the fact that it would be, technically, the "truth" (that she DID last see Casey with Zanny) that the polygraph wouldn't catch it.

Like I said, it is all so crazy, but it definitely would explain how she knew about ZG visiting Sawgrass, which has been a problem all along to figure out.

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I'm seriously thinking that in the process of KC stalking the real ZFG to steal her identity for nefarious purposes, that she came across a post or comment or something where ZFG said she was going to look at Sawgrass apartments or that someone suggested that to her. Googling someone's name can bring up any post they make on any site on the net.

In the depo, Lee mentioned that he had seen the real ZFG picture on her My Space or Face Book page. He also explained that he had tracked down KC on July 3rd by comments on her My Space of Face Book page. So, I think you're definitely onto something here. I expect that ZFG's pages are private now. It sure would have been interesting to scan them and see if she revealed her apt hunting plans.