Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #10

[Chimera]

RSBM
So the Palestinians were receiving  hundreds of trucks per day of humanitarian aid  before October 7? For how long (that's a lot of aid)?

Basically free handouts aka welfare, all going in the support of Hamas.
This needs to stop.
It's possible that a very small percentage of the Gazans are getting anything at all.
Sick and tired of funding Hamas/terrorists.
Maybe if this aid ends, the people will rise up ?
Omo.

 

[PommyMommy]

4:57 pm

IDF releases additional footage from raid of hospital where it says hostages were held​

Footage showing the moment the IDF raid of Gaza City's Rantisi children’s hospital on November 13, 2023. (Screen capture/X)

The Israel Defense Forces releases additional footage showing the moment the Navy’s elite Shayetet 13 commando unit and the 401st Armored Brigade raided Gaza City’s Rantisi children’s hospital.

The troops found a cache of weapons and a room that the IDF believes was used by Hamas to hold Israeli hostages hostages.

Yesterday, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari gave an English-language press conference, revealing what he said was proof that the basement of Rantisi was used by Hamas to hide arms and possibly hold hostages kidnapped on October 7.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724436020643438759

 

[Brightchaser47]

Basically free handouts aka welfare, all going in the support of Hamas.
This needs to stop.
It's possible that a very small percentage of the Gazans are getting anything at all.
Sick and tired of funding Hamas/terrorists.
Maybe if this aid ends, the people will rise up ?
Omo.

Agreed. This definitely needs to change. As for the people rising up, we've heard a lot from various charitable organizations and governments about this situation (and protesters), but what about the Palestinians, themselves? Not their "spokesmen". It was very refreshing to see the videos shared of the outcry from  Palestinians frustrated with Hamas, as they're evacuating.

 

[Friday Fan]

Cold conditions?

Rafah Egypt its 78
Nirim Israel its 79

Those are high temps. Humidity is low and nightly lows are in the low 60's.

Most incubators are usually set to 98.6.

If you are used to hot, those night temps can feel chilly. Also, humidity is relatively low.

They say temps in the Med region tend to ""follow the sun".
It's also the rainy season.

I'm here in Texas, it was 61 last night, and I wore a winter coat and stocking cap. I'm also from Wisconsin and can deal with cold.

Yes, there are plenty hardy people who are fine in tents, but there are also kids and older folks who need shoes, clothes, blankets etc. Also many have loss weight. This decreases cold tolerance.

 

[Dotta]

"Israel's dogs of war: ​

The IDF's four-legged fighting force that's being deployed in some of Gaza's most dangerous territory to hunt down Hamas - ​

and has already suffered fatalities fighting terrorists."​

Israel's dogs of war: The IDF's four-legged fighting force in Gaza

The dogs, who are part of the Oketz unit, are trained to sniff out explosives, locate hidden threats and tunnel entrances, and track down and maul terrorists.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Chimera]

4:57 pm

IDF releases additional footage from raid of hospital where it says hostages were held​

Footage showing the moment the IDF raid of Gaza City's Rantisi children’s hospital on November 13, 2023. (Screen capture/X)

The Israel Defense Forces releases additional footage showing the moment the Navy’s elite Shayetet 13 commando unit and the 401st Armored Brigade raided Gaza City’s Rantisi children’s hospital.

The troops found a cache of weapons and a room that the IDF believes was used by Hamas to hold Israeli hostages hostages.

Yesterday, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari gave an English-language press conference, revealing what he said was proof that the basement of Rantisi was used by Hamas to hide arms and possibly hold hostages kidnapped on October 7.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724436020643438759

Bolding mine.
How utterly repulsive that they stored their weapons and maybe hostages beneath a children's hospital.
We've already seen how the preemie infants were treated.
All while Israel is attempting to evacuate the babies.
Notice how Hamas were already gone from the hospital ?
Every time there is a 'pause', Hamas has time to relocate.
Even if they're under a hospital.
Who's to say that someone on the inside isn't alerting them that the IDF is closing in ?
Ugh.
If I sound frustrated, it's because Israel is fighting a war against not only Hamas --but other people and countries who are working against them !
Omo.

 

[Vern]

14:40

Reports people attempting to leave hospital shot in legs​

The BBC's Rushdi Abualouf has heard that no people, or any items of aid, have been allowed out of the Al-Shifa hospital for the last 48 hours, according to one of his contacts.

That source - one of the few remaining journalists in the hospital - says four people had tried to leave Al-Shifa yesterday, but were shot in the legs and left on the ground bleeding for around two hours.

Medics had to risk their lives to get them into the hospital for treatment, the source tells Abualouf.

The BBC has been unable to access the hospital to verify this as fighting has been raging in the vicinity in recent days.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67400490

That's a familiar playbook by those who want to keep their human shields; Hamas has been called out for these things before:

Palestinian Authority says Hamas shot Fatah men in legs during Gaza fighting

Fatah spokesman says activists targeted after they violated the house arrest imposed on them; Hamas says leadership did not order shootings.

www.jpost.com

Gaza: Palestinians tortured, summarily killed by Hamas forces during 2014 conflict

Hamas forces carried out a brutal campaign of abductions, torture and unlawful killings against Palestinians accused of “collaborating” with Israel and others during Israel’s military offensive against Gaza in July and August 2014, according to a new report by Amnesty International. ‘Strangling...

www.amnesty.org

Under Cover of War

This 26-page report documents a pattern since late December 2008 of arbitrary arrests and detentions, torture, maimings by shooting, and extrajudicial executions by alleged members of Hamas security forces. The report is based on interviews with victims and witnesses in Gaza and case reports by...

www.hrw.org

Gaza Strip protesters received bullet wounds to ankles, medics report

Influx of injuries may suggest deliberate targeting by Israel’s army, which human rights groups say is unlawful

www.theguardian.com

Bodies of revelers killed by terrorists are piled on top of each other

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT The father of a 20-year-old woman attending a music festival that came under attack from Hamas terrorists has gone missing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2018/04/28/feature/scores-of-palestinians-have-been-shot-in-their-legs-and-some-face-amputation/

Israeli video compilation shows the savagery and ease of Hamas' attack

Israel's military brought together a group of foreign correspondents to screen a 40-minute reel of gruesome footage compiled from the Hamas attack last week.

apnews.com

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Palestinian Rival Says It Is Attacked by Hamas (Published 2009)

Fatah, Hamas’s political rival, contends its members are harassed by Hamas, as it works to reassert its authority.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Tony1902]

Don't hold your breath. Hamas (and others) have made no secret of their intentions toward the US and Jews. We live in the "technology age". Don't think they won't use technology to accomplish their goals. They're using modern methods to trace ancestry for a reason. jmo

Finally someone gets to an issue not in public discourse. It’s not just a 100 year issue, not a Roman Diaspora of AD 70..it goes much further.
Just My Educated in the History-Anthropology-Archaeology of the Ancient Near East Opinion.

 

[Chimera]

Agreed. This definitely needs to change. As for the people rising up, we've heard a lot from various charitable organizations and governments about this situation (and protesters), but what about the Palestinians, themselves? Not their "spokesmen". It was very refreshing to see the videos shared of the outcry from  Palestinians frustrated with Hamas, as they're evacuating.

Bbm.
Excellent point. ^^^
Once they're somewhat free from Hamas, they can speak their minds.
Hopefully more Gazans will tell about the stunts 'Hamas' is pulling in the city.
Omo.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hamas senior official Osama Hamdan, speaking from Lebanon, says the Al-Qassam Brigades “control the situation in Gaza,” in response to Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s claim that the terror group lost control over the Gaza Strip.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724432637102535155

 

[Chimera]

That's a familiar playbook by those who want to keep their human shields; Hamas has been called out for these things before:

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Snipped for focus.
Notice the balaclava face coverings used by Hamas ?
Other terrorists like Hezbollah use coverings as well .
To conceal who they are.
People who are breaking and entering to steal do this as well.
It has to be uncomfortable, esp. in hot weather.
Boohoo.
Cowards, all of them.
Omo.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Assita Kanko MEP

@Assita_Kanko

Staggering indeed. For some people om the left like @jeremycorbyn Hamas is not a terror Organization. What does it take to see with their own eyes what Hamas really is? A terror group using civilians as human shields.Organisations like Hamas are dangerous for all of us.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724436652964159744

 

[Vern]

If anyone recalls the footage of the Israeli Navy taking out the Hamas terrorists who attempted to boat/dive then swim ashore into Israel to attack innocent civilians back in October, here's the footage of the IDFnow finding below the surface the weapons & munitions:

 

[Brightchaser47]

Hamas senior official Osama Hamdan, speaking from Lebanon, says the Al-Qassam Brigades “control the situation in Gaza,” in response to Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s claim that the terror group lost control over the Gaza Strip.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724432637102535155

Unless the Al-Qassam Brigades are camped out under al-Shifa Hospital, I doubt it.

 

[Momoffourboys]

For 39 days now, Hamas has been launching thousands of rockets at Israeli civilians—today was no different

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724446597512097808

 

[Tony1902]

If anyone recalls the footage of the Israeli Navy taking out the Hamas terrorists who attempted to boat/dive then swim ashore into Israel to attack innocent civilians back in October, here's the footage of the IDFnow finding below the surface the weapons & munitions:

Yay ‘squids!’

 

[Momoffourboys]

Unless the Al-Qassam Brigades are camped out under al-Shifa Hospital, I doubt it.

How would he know? He’s hiding out in Lebanon.

 

[Momoffourboys]

IDF reveals Hamas hid hostages under hospital in Gaza'I look at all the Western posts about 'free Palestine', and I see a system...it's just to deny everything that we're showing to the world'
@forumdvorah's Shiri Fein-Grossman tells @laura_i24

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724393120748499175

 

[Brightchaser47]

How would he know? He’s hiding out in Lebanon.

Good point. Cowards-R-Us

 

[Brightchaser47]

IDF reveals Hamas hid hostages under hospital in Gaza'I look at all the Western posts about 'free Palestine', and I see a system...it's just to deny everything that we're showing to the world'
@forumdvorah's Shiri Fein-Grossman tells @laura_i24

https://twitter.com/x/status/1724393120748499175

And I can believe that...