Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

[JennieM]

Fuel crisis

Israel says it has agreed to allow two fuel lorries a day into Gaza, which the country's national security advisor says will prevent a collapse of the sewage system and risk of disease to its troops.

The US government has said this agreement amounts to around 140,000 litres every two days - 120,000 of which will be used to fuel aid vehicles and other humanitarian efforts, with the remainder to power communication networks.

But aid agencies warn this is nowhere near enough to run their humanitarian operations, amid growing fears of people starving as they desperately search for food.

Communication networks in Gaza were down for more than a day, after the strip's telecoms firms ran out of fuel to generate power for phone or internet networks. Signal has since been partially restored, two companies say, after a delivery of some fuel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67446662

 

[PommyMommy]

IDF 'close to dismantling the military system' in northern Gaza

Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the Israel-Hamas war: IDF ‘close to dismantling the military system’ in northern Gaza

www.nbcnews.com

• Israeli forces searched several hospitals in northern Gaza, saying they had found tunnels, weapons and at least one vehicle.
• The IDF has so far not provided definitive evidence that Hamas command centers exist beneath Al-Shifa and other hospitals, a claim that Israeli and American officials have repeatedly made and Hamas and doctors have forcefully denied.

Red emphasis mine.

Of course Hamas had enough time to remove a ton of evidence from the tunnels.
Every time there's a humanitarian 'pause'.
Busy little bees, those Hamas terrorists !

From the above link :

• The IDF said it had found the body of Yehudit Weiss, a hostage abducted by Hamas during the Oct. 7 attack, and that of Noa Marciano, a 19-year-old soldier taken hostage by Hamas. The military describe both as being found "adjacent" to Al-Shifa Hospital.

Rest in peace, Yehudit and Noa ! May their memories be a blessing.

Curious about that 'adjacent' part ?
Were they being kept in another building close by the hospital ?
Was there evidence of more hostages being held there ?
Omo.

On the IDF's Substack, LTC Hecht described it this way (BBM):

• Yehudit Weiss’s body was extracted by IDF troops from a structure near Shifa Hospital in which additional military equipment, including Kalashnikov rifles and RPG's, were also located.
• The body of an IDF soldier, Corporal Noa Marciano, who was abducted by the Hamas terrorist organization, was also extracted by IDF troops from a structure adjacent to the Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip and transferred to Israeli territory.

Monsters Under the Bed - by Lt. Col. Richard Hecht (substack.com)

 

[Wishbone]

Pressure on Netanyahu

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has admitted Israeli forces have not been "successful" in minimising civilian casualties in Gaza, but blamed Hamas for using people as human shields.

One of Netanyahu's predecessors, Ehud Olmert, has called for a political solution to resolve the future of Gaza in a BBC interview - blaming his rival for security failings that led to more than 1,200 Israelis being killed by Hamas.

Meanwhile, families and friends of those being held hostage in Gaza are marching in protest from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, with the journey of around 43 miles (69km) due to end at Netanyahu's office on Saturday to demand their release.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67446662

The longer this siege goes on, the more it looks like the Palestinians will be completely wiped out and all of Gaza leveled. I'm wondering what sentiments will be like after that.

 

[JennieM]

9m ago
Israel has issued a fresh warning to Palestinians in the southern city of Khan Younis to relocate west out of the line of fire and closer to humanitarian aid, Reuters reports.

The warning in the latest indication that the Israeli military plans to attack Hamas in southern Gaza after subduing the north.

Mark Regev, an aide to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told MSNBC on Friday:

We’re asking people to relocate. I know it’s not easy for many of them, but we don’t want to see civilians caught up in the crossfire.

Such a move could compel hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who fled south from the Israeli assault on Gaza City to relocate again, along with residents of the southern city of Khan Younis, worsening a dire humanitarian crisis.

Khan Younis has a population of more than 400,000.

Israel dropped leaflets over eastern areas of Khan Younis overnight on Thursday telling people to evacuate to shelters, suggesting military operations there were imminent.

Israeli forces ‘determined to advance’, says military – as it happened

Daniel Hagari’s comments come amid mounting concerns about Israeli plans to expand military operations where people have sought refuge from fighting

www.theguardian.com

 

[dotr]

On the IDF's Substack, LTC Hecht described it this way (BBM):

• Yehudit Weiss’s body was extracted by IDF troops from a structure near Shifa Hospital in which additional military equipment, including Kalashnikov rifles and RPG's, were also located.
• The body of an IDF soldier, Corporal Noa Marciano, who was abducted by the Hamas terrorist organization, was also extracted by IDF troops from a structure adjacent to the Shifa Hospital in the Gaza Strip and transferred to Israeli territory.

Monsters Under the Bed - by Lt. Col. Richard Hecht (substack.com)

re post

Nov 17, 2023 #Israel #Hostage #Hamas
Israel says it recovered the body of another Hamas hostage, 19-year-old Corporal Noa Marciano, near Al-Shifa hospital. Israeli forces continue to search hospitals in Gaza, as doctors there face increasing pressure. NBC News’ Keir Simmons reports.

 

[PommyMommy]

RPGs, mortar shells, and other weapons were found by IDF troops inside a kindergarten and an elementary school in northern Gaza.

Kindergartens should store toys, not deadly weapons.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725683581513552023

 

[Leve]

RPGs, mortar shells, and other weapons were found by IDF troops inside a kindergarten and an elementary school in northern Gaza.

Kindergartens should store toys, not deadly weapons.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1725683581513552023

I can't even image living somewhere surrounded constantly by weapons like this. Under kids beds, in their schools, ect..its mind blowing

 

[JennieM]

A TANZANIAN STUDENT BELIEVED KIDNAPPED BY HAMAS HAS DIED, HIS COUNTRY’S FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS​

Tanzania’s Foreign Ministry on Friday announced the death of Clemence Felix Mtenga, 22, one of two Tanzanian agriculture interns believed kidnapped by Palestinian militants on Oct. 7.

The statement did not provide details on how the Tanzanian government had learned of his death or the location of his remains.

Clemence and 21-year-old Joshua Loitu Mollel were working on cow farms not far from the Gaza Strip -- Clemence had been placed at Nir Oz and Joshua was living at Nahal Oz. They had arrived in Israel in mid-September.

Live updates | Limited telecom services return to Gaza, but the UN lacks fuel for aid delivery

Limited phone and internet services began working again Friday across Gaza after fuel was delivered to restart generators that power the networks.

apnews.com

Tanzanian student taken hostage by Hamas confirmed dead​

Munira Hussein & Alex Smith
Dar es Salaam and London


Mashav IsraelCopyright: Mashav Israel

The Tanzanian government has confirmed the death of a student taken hostage in Gaza.

Clemence Felix Mtenga was one of two Tanzanians taken by Hamas on 7 October. It is unclear how the 22-year-old died.

In a statement confirming his death, the country's foreign ministry say it is in touch with Israel over the other Tanzanian hostage, Joshua Mollel.

Mtenga's family has been informed, it said, adding that officials were liaising with the Israeli government to send his body home.

Mtenga had only landed in Israel in September and was due to study there for 11 months.

More than 230 hostages were taken in the assault by Hamas, and at least 1,200 people killed.

• Read more here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67446662

 

[JennieM]

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT IS GATHERING INFO ON ALLEGED CRIMES DURING ISRAEL-HAMAS WAR​

THE HAGUE, Netherlands — International Criminal Court Prosecutor Karim Khan says that his office has received “a significant volume of information and evidence” about alleged crimes committed during the Israel-Hamas war.

Khan did not elaborate on the nature of the information his office has received.

He made the comment in a written statement Friday confirming that South Africa, Bangladesh, Bolivia, Comoros, and Djibouti had made official state referrals to the court about the “Situation in the State of Palestine,” which his office has been investigating since March 2021. South Africa announced the referral on Thursday.

The ICC investigation dates back to the last major Israel-Hamas war in 2014 but also includes the ongoing conflict in Gaza.

Khan says his prosecution office “will continue its engagement with all relevant actors, whether national authorities, civil society, survivor groups or international partners, to advance this investigation.”

He also says he will “continue my efforts to visit the State of Palestine and Israel in order to meet with survivors, hear from civil society organisations and engage with relevant national counterparts.”

Live updates | Limited telecom services return to Gaza, but the UN lacks fuel for aid delivery

Limited phone and internet services began working again Friday across Gaza after fuel was delivered to restart generators that power the networks.

apnews.com

 

[SusanDonim]

25% oppose.

Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank strongly support Hamas, October 7 attack

A total of 75% of respondents agreed with the October 7 attack and 74.7% agreed that they support a single Palestinian state “from the river to the sea.”

m.jpost.com

Eta
A total of 75% of respondents agreed with the October 7 attack to any extent.

Sample size for that survey is 668

 

[JennieM]

Doctors Without Borders (MSF) said it has been trying to evacuate some of its staff and their families currently trapped inside the organisation’s facilities near al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. Since last Saturday, MSF staff and families – 137 people, 65 of them children – have not been able to go outside because of ongoing fighting, it said.

Israeli forces ‘determined to advance’, says military – as it happened

Daniel Hagari’s comments come amid mounting concerns about Israeli plans to expand military operations where people have sought refuge from fighting

www.theguardian.com

 

[PommyMommy]

5min ago

Elon Musk says calls for genocide like ‘from the river to the sea’ to result in suspension​

Elon Musk says X users who deploy the terms “decolonization”, “from the river to the sea” and other “similar euphemisms” that “necessarily imply genocide” will be suspended from the platform.

“Clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension,” Musk tweets.

“Anyone calling for a genocide of any people will be suspended,” Musk replies to a user who asks, “So many influential accounts here support Hamas’ massacre. Will you suspend them?”

In his post Friday, he quote-tweeted a post from two days ago that said “Yes, ‘decolonization’ necessarily implies a Jewish genocide, thus it is unacceptable to any reasonable person.”

[...]

 

[RANCH]

The longer this siege goes on, the more it looks like the Palestinians will be completely wiped out and all of Gaza leveled. I'm wondering what sentiments will be like after that.

I really doubt that the Palestinians will be completely wiped out.

I do hope that Hamas is completely wiped out by the IDF and the Palestinians never vote another terrorist group into power ever again.

All the blood shed by the Palestinian people from this war is on Hamas and not Israel. JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

15min ago

IDF says missile launched from Lebanon intercepted by air defenses​

The IDF says air defenses “successfully intercepted” a surface-to-air missile launched from Lebanese territory at a remotely manned military aircraft, prompting air raid sirens to go off in northern Israel.

The alerts were triggered by the interceptions, the military said in a brief announcement, adding that “no crossing into Israeli territory was detected.”

 

[Wishbone]

I really doubt that the Palestinians will be completely wiped out.

I do hope that Hamas is completely wiped out by the IDF and the Palestinians never vote another terrorist group into power ever again.

All the blood shed by the Palestinian people from this war is on Hamas and not Israel. JMO.

Continued bombing, meager medical help,lack of food and clean water, no electricity, decaying bodies, lack of adequate shelter and clothing, the list goes on and on. No telling how long they can hang on, especially the children, elders and infirm. Five weeks in and IDF is nowhere near their objective and vow to continue the assault. If this lasts long enough most will die.IMO

The average Palestinian in Gaza is living on 2 pieces of bread a day, UN official says

The Gaza director for the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees says the average Palestinian in Gaza is living on two pieces of Arabic bread made from flour that the U.N. had stockpiled in the region.

apnews.com

Disease runs rampant in Gaza as clean water runs out

Cases of diarrhea and skin infections such as scabies are increasing sharply, global public health officials say.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[JennieM]

1m ago

A top United Nations official has renewed calls for a “humanitarian ceasefire” to allow aid to reach the 2.2 million people trapped in the war between Israel and Hamas, saying: “We are not asking for the moon.”

“Call it what you will, but the requirement – from a humanitarian point of view – is simple: stop the fighting to allow civilians to move safely,” the UN humanitarian chief, Martin Griffiths, said in an address to the UN general assembly on Friday.

Agence France-Presse reports that Griffiths also said:

We are not asking for the moon. We are asking for the basic measures required to meet the essential needs of the civilian population and stem the course of this crisis.

As well, Griffiths called for the release of all hostages held in Gaza without condition.

About 240 were taken hostage and 1,200 people killed in Israel when Hamasmilitants carried out a cross-border attack on 7 October, Israeli officials say. In Gaza, 12,000 people have been killed in Israel’s relentless response, officials in the Hamas-run territory say.

Griffiths pleaded:

Give the people of Gaza a breather from the terrible, terrible things that have been put on them these last few weeks.

Israeli forces ‘determined to advance’, says military – as it happened

Daniel Hagari’s comments come amid mounting concerns about Israeli plans to expand military operations where people have sought refuge from fighting

www.theguardian.com

 

[RANCH]

Continued bombing, meager medical help,lack of food and clean water, no electricity, decaying bodies, lack of adequate shelter and clothing, the list goes on and on. No telling how long they can hang on, especially the children, elders and infirm. Five weeks in and IDF is nowhere near their objective and vow to continue the assault. If this lasts long enough most will die.IMO

The average Palestinian in Gaza is living on 2 pieces of bread a day, UN official says

The Gaza director for the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees says the average Palestinian in Gaza is living on two pieces of Arabic bread made from flour that the U.N. had stockpiled in the region.

apnews.com

Disease runs rampant in Gaza as clean water runs out

Cases of diarrhea and skin infections such as scabies are increasing sharply, global public health officials say.

www.nbcnews.com

What's your projected death toll. 1 million Palestinians? 2 million?

 

[Wishbone]

What's your projected death toll. 1 million Palestinians? 2 million?

If it continues like it is for long enough it could be most of them. They are starving in addition to all the rest. Something has to give and since there has been no real intervention at this point, I doubt there will be.JMOP

 

[JennieM]

ISRAEL WILL ALLOW ‘VERY MINIMAL’ FUEL​

INTO GAZA. UN WARNS OF LOOMING MASS STARVATION​

Israel announced Friday that it will allow for the first time “very minimal” daily shipments of fuel into Gaza for use by the U.N. and communications system.

Aid agencies say the lack of fuel has forced them to call off deliveries of basic necessities in the Gaza Strip. They warned of possible widespread starvation in the besieged enclave because of the lack of fuel, and said most people in Gaza were without adequate food and clean water.

Israel earlier said it found the body of another hostage in a building adjacent to Gaza City’s Shifa Hospital. The hospital has been the focus of clashing narratives over who is to blame for the widespread suffering of Palestinian civilians during the war between Israel and Hamas.

At least 11,470 Palestinians — two-thirds of them women and minors — have been killed since the war began, according to Palestinian health authorities, who do not differentiate between civilian and militant deaths. About 2,700 people are reported missing.

Israel vowed to wipe out Hamas after the militant group launched its Oct. 7 incursion. Some 1,200 people have been killed in Israel, mostly during the initial attack, and around 240 were taken captive by militants.

Live updates | Limited telecom services return to Gaza, but the UN lacks fuel for aid delivery

Limited phone and internet services began working again Friday across Gaza after fuel was delivered to restart generators that power the networks.

apnews.com

 

[RANCH]

If it continues like it is for long enough it could be most of them. They are starving in addition to all the rest. Something has to give and since there has been no real intervention at this point, I doubt there will be.JMOP

I think the IDF will destroy Hamas well before "most" Palestinian civilians die and humanitarian efforts swing into full speed. JMO.