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Hamas-run health ministry says 120 patients still at Al-Shifa
The health ministry in Hamas-run Gaza says that hundreds of people fled Al-Shifa hospital on foot this morning, according to the AFP news agency.It says 120 wounded patients remain at the hospital, along with an unspecified number of premature babies.
Earlier, health officials told AFP that "450 wounded and patients with chronic illnesses" could not be moved and a number of medical staff would stay at the hospital to care for them.
The BBC can't independently verify these figures.
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Held where? In the tunnels below the hospital?
Irish-Palestinian doctor says he will stay at Al-Shifa with patients that remain
Dr Ahmed El Mokhallalati, an Irish-Palestinian doctor working at Al-Shifa, says he and five other doctors are staying at the hospital with 120 patients that remain there."Many patients can not leave the hospital as they are in the ICU beds or the baby incubators," he posted on X.
El Mokhallalati said the Israeli military had ordered everyone to leave the hospital.
The IDF has denied this, saying it had agreed to an evacuation request from the hospital's director.
Communication blackout complicates reporting of Al-Shifa evacuation
Tom Bateman
Middle East correspondent, in Jerusalem
Piecing together what is happening at Al-Shifa hospital has been challenging for days now, with the Israeli siege having caused rolling communications blackouts in Gaza.
The first indications of a further evacuation this morning came from the AFP news agency quoting one of its journalists at the scene. He said Israeli troops ordered the evacuation of the hospital “in the next hour" over loudspeakers.
Posts from social media users were suggesting similar; though not always clearly sourced. The journalist said the Israeli military had called the hospital's director, Mohammed Abu Salmiya, to instruct him to ensure "the evacuation of patients, wounded, the displaced and medical staff, and that they should move on foot towards the seafront”.
We’ve been trying to message and call our medical contacts in Al-Shifa all morning, but we haven’t been able to reach them. Within 90 minutes of the AFP report, the Israeli military put out a statement denying the evacuation was an “order” and said medical staff could stay to look after patients who couldn’t get out.
It said it had “agreed” to “expand and assist evacuation” efforts for those who would like to leave following a “request” from the hospital director. With tanks and troops surrounding the hospital, however, much of the question over whether the evacuation is “requested” or an “order” may seem like just semantics.
The army said there would be a “secure route” to evacuate but didn’t say where to.
The Israeli military claims Hamas uses the hospital as a command centre, but Hamas denies this.
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Summary
It’s coming up to 3pm in Gaza. Here are the day’s main developments so far:- Health officials say many patients, medical staff and those displaced by the ongoing war have left Gaza’s largest hospital, which was taken over by Israeli forces earlier in the week
- Hospital officials say they received an evacuation order from Israel’s military on Saturday morning, but the military said it had offered safe passage to those hoping to leave
- Jordan’s foreign minister has said Arab troops will not go to Gaza as he delivered a blistering criticism of Israel’s war on Hamas
- Israel issued a fresh warning to residents in the southern city of Khan Younis to move out of the line of fire and closer to humanitarian aid, in the latest indication that it plans to attack Hamas in south Gaza after subduing the north
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
Around 15 injured children from Gaza needing treatment arrive in Abu Dhabi
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Medics receive an injured boy as Palestinian children and families arrived in Abu Dhabi
The first flight carrying injured Palestinian children from Gaza in need of medical treatment has landed in Abu Dhabi.
The plane carried around 15 children and their families, and arrived from Egypt after they were allowed to cross into the country from Gaza using the Rafah Crossing.
The UAE is planning to bring about 1,000 women and children from Gaza for treatment in its hospitals over the next few days and weeks.
The Emirati branch of the Red Crescent is also building a field hospital on the Egyptian side of the Rafah Crossing for those who are too sick to travel.
Hospitals in Gaza are experiencing significant challenges because of the Israeli siege, which has caused a lack of fuel, water and basic supplies.
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The first planeload of Palestinian children wounded in the Israel-Hamas war raging in the Gaza Strip reached the United Arab Emirates on Saturday, part of a pledged relief effort by the country to aid 1,000 children.
The group of 15 people, including children and their family members, made it across the Gaza Strip’s Rafah border crossing with Egypt on Friday. They then took a flight to Abu Dhabi, the capital of the Emirates, AP reported.
Young children lay asleep on their mothers’ laps as the plane finally landed at Abu Dhabi international airport. Some of the seats of the plane were removed to make room for the most critically wounded children, who needed to lie on stretchers.
Some of the young had bandaged arms and legs. Others sat quietly next to their parents or relatives. Some travelled alone. The mood was sombre and quiet inside the plane. Many of the mothers said they were exhausted.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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'HAMAS’S GOAL IS NOT TO RUN GAZA, BRING IT WATER, ELECTRICITY'
Hamas says purpose of massacres was a ‘permanent’ state of war on Israel’s borders
As Israel is pressured to agree to pause in fighting, top officials in terror group laud ‘great act’ of Oct. 7 and say they never intended to ‘improve the situation in Gaza’
Sat 18 Nov 2023
Palestinians injured in airstrikes arrive at Nasser Medical Hospital in Khan Yunis.
Photograph: Ahmad Hasaballah/Getty Images
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Palestinians injured in airstrikes arrive at Nasser Medical Hospital in Khan Yunis.
Photograph: Ahmad Hasaballah/Getty Images
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Julian Borger
Prior to their capture of Dar al-Shifa hospital, the Israel Defence Forces went to great lengths to depict the medical complex as a headquarters for Hamas, from where its attacks on Israel were planned.
The evidence produced so far falls well short of that. IDF videos have shown only modest collections of small arms, mostly assault rifles, recovered from the extensive medical complex.
That suggests an armed presence, but not the sort of elaborate nerve centre depicted in animated graphics presented to the media before al-Shifa was seized, portraying a network of well-equipped subterranean chambers.
Even the videos produced so far have raised questions under scrutiny. A BBC analysis found the footage of an IDF spokesperson showing the apparent discovery of a bag containing a gun behind an MRI scanning machine, had been taped hours before the arrival of the journalists to whom he was supposedly showing it.
In a video shown later, the number of guns in the bag had doubled. The IDF claimed its video of what it found at the hospital was unedited, filmed in a single take, but the BBC analysis found it had been edited.
Israeli forces say they are still carefully exploring the site. The video presentation of al-Shifa did show the main facilities lay deep underground, and it is quite possible the Israeli soldiers have not reached them yet, so there could be much more to come. But the attempt to present what has been found so far as significant is bound to fuel scepticism about whatever is presented later.
There are questions over how much of its graphic presentation of the network under al-Shifa was based on what Israel knew already; its own architect had built an extensive basement area there the last time Israel directly occupied Gaza, up to 2005.
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IDF evidence so far falls well short of al-Shifa hospital being Hamas HQ
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Julian Borger
Prior to their capture of Dar al-Shifa hospital, the Israel Defence Forces went to great lengths to depict the medical complex as a headquarters for Hamas, from where its attacks on Israel were planned.
The evidence produced so far falls well short of that. IDF videos have shown only modest collections of small arms, mostly assault rifles, recovered from the extensive medical complex.
That suggests an armed presence, but not the sort of elaborate nerve centre depicted in animated graphics presented to the media before al-Shifa was seized, portraying a network of well-equipped subterranean chambers.
Even the videos produced so far have raised questions under scrutiny. A BBC analysis found the footage of an IDF spokesperson showing the apparent discovery of a bag containing a gun behind an MRI scanning machine, had been taped hours before the arrival of the journalists to whom he was supposedly showing it.
In a video shown later, the number of guns in the bag had doubled. The IDF claimed its video of what it found at the hospital was unedited, filmed in a single take, but the BBC analysis found it had been edited.
Israeli forces say they are still carefully exploring the site. The video presentation of al-Shifa did show the main facilities lay deep underground, and it is quite possible the Israeli soldiers have not reached them yet, so there could be much more to come. But the attempt to present what has been found so far as significant is bound to fuel scepticism about whatever is presented later.
There are questions over how much of its graphic presentation of the network under al-Shifa was based on what Israel knew already; its own architect had built an extensive basement area there the last time Israel directly occupied Gaza, up to 2005.
Read more
IDF evidence so far falls well short of al-Shifa hospital being Hamas HQ
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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If the goal of the Massacre by Hamas was to 'bring a permanent state of war to Israeli borders, then they got their wish.
And no one can now blame Israel for the casualties in Gaza because that was the intention and plan by Hamas for their own people. JMO
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UNRWA spokesperson Juliette Touma spoke to the BBC earlier and said “We urgently need fuel for the humanitarian operations across the Gaza Strip.”
“None of the trucks that have been coming in since 21 October had fuel on them”, Touma said, “We need At least 120,000 litres of fuel every single day if UNRWA and other humanitarian aid organizations are to continue delivering assistance to people in need across the Gaza strip.”
Touma says that they need to distribute aid to 80,000 people in shelters that the agency manages, and added: “UNRWA should not be pushed in the corner begging for fuel.”
UN says Gaza hasn't received any fuel since Israel allowed two daily deliveries
Yesterday Israel’s wear cabinet said it would allow two fuel trucks a day into the Gaza Strip – but Gaza’s UN agency for Palestinian refugees says that as yet, none have arrived.UNRWA spokesperson Juliette Touma spoke to the BBC earlier and said “We urgently need fuel for the humanitarian operations across the Gaza Strip.”
“None of the trucks that have been coming in since 21 October had fuel on them”, Touma said, “We need At least 120,000 litres of fuel every single day if UNRWA and other humanitarian aid organizations are to continue delivering assistance to people in need across the Gaza strip.”
Touma says that they need to distribute aid to 80,000 people in shelters that the agency manages, and added: “UNRWA should not be pushed in the corner begging for fuel.”
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An Israel Defense Forces (IDF) video on November 15 showing a tour of Hamas weaponry found at Al-Shifa hospital shows less weaponry at the scene than in later footage filmed by international news crews, indicating the weaponry may have been moved or placed there prior to news crews arriving.
CNN compared footage published by the IDF online with footage taken by Fox News which was granted access to the site in the hours afterwards. IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus leads the tour in the IDF video and a watch on his arm shows the time to be 13:18.
Fox News Foreign Correspondent Trey Yingst later visits the scene when it is dark. He says in his report it is “the middle of the night.”
Yingst is shown a bag located behind an MRI machine inside the hospital with two AK-47 guns visible on top of it. However, the IDF video filmed earlier shows only one AK-47 gun. It is unclear where the second AK-47 gun came from and why it is not visible in the earlier IDF clip.
In the intervening hours, the IDF also posted online a photo of the weaponry purportedly found at Al-Shifa hospital. The WhatsApp file name for this photo indicates it was taken at 17:35; this places it after the IDF tour of the MRI compound but almost certainly before the Fox News crew arrive.
It is possible the weaponry was removed from the scene and replaced prior to the news crews arriving. However this does not explain why more guns are visible when the press arrive than in the original IDF video.
The BBC was also granted access to the hospital the following day, November 16, and two AK-47 guns are still visible on top of the bag inside the MRI room.
CNN has reached out to the IDF for clarification on the apparent discrepancy but has not received a response.
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CNN analysis: Video suggests IDF might have rearranged weaponry at Al-Shifa hospital prior to international news crew visits
From CNN’s Katie Polglase and Gianluca MezzofioreAn Israel Defense Forces (IDF) video on November 15 showing a tour of Hamas weaponry found at Al-Shifa hospital shows less weaponry at the scene than in later footage filmed by international news crews, indicating the weaponry may have been moved or placed there prior to news crews arriving.
CNN compared footage published by the IDF online with footage taken by Fox News which was granted access to the site in the hours afterwards. IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus leads the tour in the IDF video and a watch on his arm shows the time to be 13:18.
Fox News Foreign Correspondent Trey Yingst later visits the scene when it is dark. He says in his report it is “the middle of the night.”
Yingst is shown a bag located behind an MRI machine inside the hospital with two AK-47 guns visible on top of it. However, the IDF video filmed earlier shows only one AK-47 gun. It is unclear where the second AK-47 gun came from and why it is not visible in the earlier IDF clip.
In the intervening hours, the IDF also posted online a photo of the weaponry purportedly found at Al-Shifa hospital. The WhatsApp file name for this photo indicates it was taken at 17:35; this places it after the IDF tour of the MRI compound but almost certainly before the Fox News crew arrive.
It is possible the weaponry was removed from the scene and replaced prior to the news crews arriving. However this does not explain why more guns are visible when the press arrive than in the original IDF video.
The BBC was also granted access to the hospital the following day, November 16, and two AK-47 guns are still visible on top of the bag inside the MRI room.
CNN has reached out to the IDF for clarification on the apparent discrepancy but has not received a response.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war
Israel's military says its troops will advance to anywhere Hamas is found, amid growing indications that an offensive into southern Gaza could be imminent. Follow for live updates.
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Body cam shows moments Hamas terrorists launched their sunrise attack
Shocking video shows the violence of a Hamas terrorist as the group began their shock sunrise attack on October 7 that has killed over 1,200 people and sparked new tensions in the region.
Dramatic body cam shows the moments Hamas terrorists launched their sunrise attack on Israel slaughtering police and 1,200 civilians along the road others and sparked the ongoing war
- Shocking video shows the violence of a Hamas terrorist as the group began their shock sunrise attack on October 7 that killed over 1,200 people
- The video, released by the Israeli Defense Forces, shows multiple terrorists in various stages of the surprise invasion
- The clips - the first publicly released since the attack - also show Hamas members celebrating over the dead bodies of civilians
Dozens reported killed in air strike near Khan Younis
About 26 Palestinians were killed in a strike near Khan Younis early on Saturday, a health official in the city said.The director of Nasser hospital in Khan Younis said it had received the bodies of 26 people, and 23 others with serious injuries, after an air strike on a residential building in Hamad town to the north-west of the city.
Most of those killed were children, news agency Wafa said.
The Israeli military has not yet commented on the report.
Palestinian news agency Wafa also reported deadly bombardments in Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza and Rafah near the border with Egypt.
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Attack on Khan Younis residential building kills 26, says hospital chief
Twenty-six people were killed in a strike in the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis, a hospital director said on Saturday.Agence France-Presse quotes the director of the Nasser hospital as saying on Saturday it had received the bodies of 26 people, as well as 23 people with serious injuries, after an airstrike on a residential building in the region’s Hamad Town.
The Israeli military did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report.
Palestinians inspect the damage to a building after the deadly strike on Hamad Town in Khan Younis. Photograph: Mahmud Hams/AFP/Getty Images
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
6h ago
www.theguardian.com
Israeli strike on southern Gaza house kills six – report
Six Palestinians were killed on Saturday in an Israeli air strike on a house in Deir al-Balah in the southern Gaza Strip, Reuters has just quoted health officials as saying.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
2h ago
Israeli soldiers operate next to damaged buildings amid the ongoing ground operation of the Israeli army against the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas, in the Gaza Strip, in this handout image released 18 November 2023. Photograph: Israel Defense Forces/Reuters
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Israeli soldiers operate next to damaged buildings amid the ongoing ground operation of the Israeli army against the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas, in the Gaza Strip, in this handout image released 18 November 2023. Photograph: Israel Defense Forces/Reuters
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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On 10/6 there was a ceasefire. On 10/7 Hamas broke it by entering civilian homes. Torturing, raping, butchering and slaughtering innocent civilians. Men. Women. Children. Babies. Elderly. Ill. They raped women in front of their families. They murdered parents in front of their children. They, then, took 242 innocent civilians into Gaza and is holding them hostage.
A lot changed. The UN, IMO, cannot be trusted after its’ colossal failure in Gaza.
The most well-documented massacre in history
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Turns out that the protest at the DNC headquarters on Wednesday was organized, in part, and attended by many Jewish people, for those who were concerned it was an anti Semitic protest:
“The protest was organized by a coalition of groups, including If Not Now and Jewish Voice for Peace Action, that have spearheaded other demonstrations in Washington and elsewhere.”
“Organizers for Jewish Voice for Peace Action, which describes itself as the largest progressive Jewish anti-Zionist organization in the world, said protesters arrived outside the DNC building at 430 South Capitol St. SE about 7 p.m. after a candlelight vigil at 3rd Street and Maryland Avenue SW.”
“The protest was organized by a coalition of groups, including If Not Now and Jewish Voice for Peace Action, that have spearheaded other demonstrations in Washington and elsewhere.”
“Organizers for Jewish Voice for Peace Action, which describes itself as the largest progressive Jewish anti-Zionist organization in the world, said protesters arrived outside the DNC building at 430 South Capitol St. SE about 7 p.m. after a candlelight vigil at 3rd Street and Maryland Avenue SW.”
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That seems to indicate there is massive clearing going on at the hospital. I wonder how they determine that there is no-one or someone down there. They spoke of some kind of robots checking the tunnels, as well as drones. But they can't open doors ... unless maybe they could blow a door open.
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