Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #13

[JennieM]

Kind of the same thing right now. Hamas is the controlling organization.

I hear two explanations:

Hamas represents Gaza because they were voted in years ago and the people are OK with it

OR

Hamas has control only because the people are afraid and cannot defy them

But either way, Hamas seems to be able to steal all the foreign aid, take their supplies and build secret tunnels under public buildings like schools and hospitals, etc.

So if Gaza became a state, would Hamas continue to have control?

Look at what we have seen on video in last few days----large celebrations when prisoners released and the crowds are full of green Hamas headbands and flags.

And we saw a couple of incidents where the locals killed people they suspected of being anti-Hamas, in public executions. So right now, Hamas still has a lot of control.

If Gaza became a state right now, Hamas would be in charge, IMO. JMO

No, it’s definitely not the same. It’s like you are saying all Palestinians are terrorists and worth killing.

If Gaza became a state, it would presumably be after this war when Israel has killed all the Hamas. If Israel does not think it can kill all the Hamas, maybe it should reconsider its carpet bombing that kills mostly civilians.

 

[Simply Southern]

(Here we go again!)

Al-Arabiya Network: A short time ago, Hamas protested in a message it sent to mediators that Israel had "violated the Houdana".

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728748477377642623

Why of course, just what I expected. No surprise here.
Moo

I wonder what tomorrow's excuse will be?

I don't know if the US will hold out til tomorrow, if the hostages are not released moo

 

[PommyMommy]

9min ago

Hamas, Moscow, confirm release of additional hostage today with Russian-Israeli citizenship​

The Hamas terror group in a statement says it has released a hostage with Russian citizenship.

It says the move comes “in response to the efforts of Russian President Vladimir Putin and in appreciation of the Russian position in support of the Palestinian cause.”

Earlier today, The Times of Israel reported that Israel was anticipating the release of at least one dual Israeli-Russian citizen on top of the 13 agreed-upon Israeli hostages.

 

[JennieM]

6m ago
Lisa O'Carroll

Ireland is not the only EU country to attract ire from Israel’s diplomats in recent days. Israel has also summoned the ambassadors of Spain and Belgium for a rebuke over remarks made by the two country’s prime ministers.

Both countries, along with Ireland and Luxembourg, have been calling on Israel to conduct its defence within humanitarian laws since the beginning of October.

Spain’s Pedro Sánchez said he stood by comments “it was a question of being humane” when conducting their offensive in Gaza.

Visiting the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt on Friday with Belgian prime minister Alexander De Croo, Sánchez said the “indiscriminate killings of innocent civilians” in the Palestinian territory was “completely unacceptable”.

Both leaders called for a permanent ceasefire in the war-battered territory, with the Belgian premier also denouncing the destruction in the Gaza Strip as “unacceptable”.

The Israeli foreign ministry swiftly summoned the ambassadors of Spain and Belgium for a “harsh rebuke” accusing them of supporting “terrorism”.

Syria says Israeli strikes put Damascus airport out of service – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

 

[PommyMommy]

The Defense Ministry announces that during operations in the Gaza Strip, forces seized some NIS 5 million in cash, along with Iraqi dinar, Jordanian dinar, and US dollars, from Hamas strongholds and homes of operatives. The money will be forfeited for the state.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728704026953314400

Hamas confirms the deaths of Ahmed Ghandour, the commander of its northern Gaza brigade, and Ayman Siam, the head of Hamas's rocket firing array, as well as other senior commanders, including Wael Rajab and Raafat Salman, as a result of Israeli airstrikes in the Gaza Strip in recent weeks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728711170578620457

 

[Elley Mae]

Israel-Hamas war: IDF prepares for 13 hostages' release amid threats

After a nail-biting night, 17 hostages returned to Israel on Saturday • 26 Israeli women, children already reunited with their families

m.jpost.com

 

[PommyMommy]

The IDF releases footage of the Oketz canine unit's operations in the Gaza Strip during the fighting in recent weeks. It says the unit's dogs helped with locating Hamas operatives, explosives and weapons, as well as the hostages and bodies.

The military says four Oketz dogs were killed during the battles with Hamas: Mido, Taiga, Jack, and Ghandi.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728715215032721542

The IDF releases footage and a radio recording of 9-year-old Ohad Munder during a helicopter flight to a hospital in Israel on Friday night after being released from Hamas captivity in the Gaza Strip.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728735163830632674

 

[Elley Mae]

Israel summons Irish envoy after Dublin calls Gaza hostage a lost child

Israel’s Foreign Minister Eli Cohen called the Irish PM's statement “outrageous.” The post appeared to be an allusion to a passage from the New Testament.

m.jpost.com

 

[Marg from Oz]

Hamas complaining that Palastinians suffer from malnutrition when they hoard million of dollars in their houses. MOO

 

[Vern]

Didn't HAMAS say they were not releasing any men? So the Thai hostages were mostly men? It is just Israeli men they aren't releasing?

The men are foreign workers. That was a quite separate deal made between Thailand / Iran and their own contact network.

Of the other hostages, women and children are who have been negotiated for release. No men and no soldiers --- it should be remembered that women IDF members are also being held captive (and probably eperiencing the worst conditions of all of them) so will not see a release of them either.

 

[Elley Mae]

Does hamas have female fighters?haven’t seen any.

 

[Simply Southern]

No, it’s definitely not the same. It’s like you are saying all Palestinians are terrorists and worth killing.

If Gaza became a state, it would presumably be after this war when Israel has killed all the Hamas. If Israel does not think it can kill all the Hamas, maybe it should reconsider its carpet bombing that kills mostly civilians.

Have any Palestinians spoken out against hamas?
Is the media only presenting Palestinian rejoicing in the deaths from Oct 7th?
I assume, they all support PA and hamas as citizens have not spoken?
Moo

 

[Elley Mae]

Does hamas have female fighters?haven’t seen any.

So all the females and children in Israel prison are palestinian.

Jmo

 

[Vern]

The IDF releases footage of the Oketz canine unit's operations in the Gaza Strip during the fighting in recent weeks. It says the unit's dogs helped with locating Hamas operatives, explosives and weapons, as well as the hostages and bodies.

The military says four Oketz dogs were killed during the battles with Hamas: Mido, Taiga, Jack, and Ghandi.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728715215032721542

The IDF releases footage and a radio recording of 9-year-old Ohad Munder during a helicopter flight to a hospital in Israel on Friday night after being released from Hamas captivity in the Gaza Strip.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728735163830632674

I recognize the bedding in that first video; ATGM stash under the child's bed.

 

[PommyMommy]

1min ago

Doron and her kids Raz, 4, and Aviv, 2, head home from hospital following release from Gaza​

Doron Asher and her two young daughters Raz, 4, and Aviv, 2, are reunited with husband and father Yoni, on November 25, 2023. (Schneider Children's Hospital)

The Schneider Children’s Hospital says that Doron Katz Asher and her daughters Raz, 4, and Aviv, 2, are heading home after they were released from Gaza on Friday evening following 49 days in captivity.

The hospital says that its staff are very “excited about this occasion,” and that “since their arrival, Schneider’s medical and psychosocial team provided them with therapeutic and emotional care in preparation for their return home.”

 

[PommyMommy]

13min ago

Health minister: Israeli released from Gaza says she told Hamas to let older hostage go instead​

Health Minister Uriel Busso says he visited a released hostage in her 70s who told him that she argued with Hamas terrorists that others should be released before her.

In an interview on Channel 12 news, Busso says he visited a woman released over the weekend who is still in the hospital, and she told him that when they told her she was being released, “she said, ‘wait, but there is a woman older than me who is in worse health — don’t you think you should let her go first?'”

Busso says this shows the incredible strength she retained in captivity as well as her care for her fellow Israelis.

2min ago

Channah Peri, 79, heads home from hospital after being freed from Gaza​

Channah Peri, center, waves as she leaves the Wolfson Medical Center on November 26, 2023, after she was released from Gaza captivity two days earlier. (Courtesy)

The Wolfson Medical Center says that Channah Peri, 79, who was released from Gaza captivity on Friday night, is going home.

Peri was kidnapped from Kibbutz Nirim on October 7. Her son, Nadav Popplewell, is still held in Gaza.

Dr. Anat Engel, director of the hospital, says that “these are moments of happiness and excitement mixed with pain and hope for the return of all of the hostages.”

Engel says that the hospital staff treated Peri “with professionalism and sensitivity and we have no doubt that Channah represents the resilience of the Israeli people.”

 

[sds71]

The Palestinian Prisoners' Authority published a list of the 39 terrorists who are expected to be released today, in the third phase - 21 of them from East Jerusalem, 17 from the West Bank and one from Rafah. For the first time in the deal - a terrorist is released to the Gaza Strip.

https://x.com/N12News/status/1728796224910664136?s=20

 

[Vern]

Does hamas have female fighters?haven’t seen any.

They have ardent supporters amongst their female population. Hamas has utilized them as suicide bombers as well. Their names liveth forevermore amongst the UNRWA scoolteaching curriculum (Reading Comprehension lessons) as has been previously posted in here.

There's even a couple scheduled for release from prison as part of the current ceasefire agreement, and at least one already released who was immediately recorded calling for all Jewish blood. Some of them are stabbers, some of them are in for "bombs" and some are in for balloon bombs. Lest anyone think a balloon bomb is merely an innocent party balloon ... they are gas-laden IEDs - often rigged propane tanks (aka cooking gas).

Hamas terrorists are not handing over any soldier POWs, male or female, to mere women for "safekeeping". They'll want eyes - and hands on them - themselves. IMO.

 

[sds71]

Minister Uriel Bosso in an interview with Rafi Rashef: "I met 72-year-old Adina Moshe who was released from captivity by Hamas. She told me that she argued with the terrorist at the time of her release and asked him to release another woman in her place - older and in less good condition."

https://x.com/N12News/status/1728797666421682681?s=20

https://twitter.com/x/status/1728431924828332069

 

[Elley Mae]

Hamas hands Gaza hostages over to Red Cross - Israeli official

Earlier, Palestinian terror group Hamas released on Sunday afternoon an Israeli-Russian dual citizen taken hostage from Gaza, it said.

m.jpost.com