Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

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justtrish said:
Geez I would have thought THIS was already in the "plans". The military has a Plan A, B, C.. etc.. a contingency plan for every plan and yet another if that goes wrong. Just think if they would have began evacuating people oh maybe 2 weeks ago?? I think we could ALL see this time was different. Israel is was not going to NOT respond to this massacre. They have been saying it and saying it and saying it. Look at how many countries in the ME are just complacent in this or even encouraging HAMAS? I think we should have began evacuating people a long time ago. Children and their parents, elderly, and those with medical conditions should have already been asked to evacuate from the area.

I think of Afghanistan and how we departed there and it didn't have to go that way. Have we not learned anything?

I'd say worst case was not needing to evacuate 600,000 people, worst case was waiting until a full blown war is happening BEFORE starting to evacuate people.
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It is already within the contingency plans (CONPLANs).

The military never starts from scratch for anything. In order to start 'executing' on those plans however ... word needs to come from the top to 'act'. IE: following their Commander in Chiefs Orders.


Example: CONPLAN LASER (Pandemic Response) has existed on the books: how to go about effecting executing a national response to a pandemic outbreak since shortly after the flu outbreak of 1918. All CONPLANs are regualarly pulled out and dusted off, updated to reflect new technology, transportaition, new threats and other items that would +/- affect the CONPLAN. etc. When the CONPLAN is then ordered to be 'executed' it becomes an OPLAN (Operational Plan). In 2020, it became OPLAN LASER.

I can guarantee you that all the Planimals (Military Planners) have been extremely busy at all the Joint Headquarters etc putting the CONPLAN through it's paces, executing the OPP (Operational Planning Process) to provide several CoAs (Courses of Action) for the powers-that-be to select from. It's what we do. They are ready for this ... and many other things. It's why they monitor world affairs 24/7/365 in those Joint HQs.

The US has also been asking citizens who wanted to leave these hotspots to begin doing so back on 8 Oct IIRC.
 
Arkay said:
I understand that Netanyahu’s brother was the only one killed at Entebbe, and I agree that his son would be target #1 for Hamas, but IMO he should be back in Israel like all other reservists.

I’m so relieved that the two elderly women hostages are ok, but I have anxiety about them saying that though they went through hell, they were treated nicely. Not blaming them, I know their husbands are still there.
But for the credulous, who don’t want to really really believe the cruelty of Hamas, I’m worried people will forget about the monstrosities Hamas inflicted. Little girls raped until their bones broke!
The beheadings, the burning alive, the torture.

They were given “permission” to rape a corpse???? What demon asks to do that?

NEVER FORGET!
Hamas is Isis
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I also notice that the press aren't reporting something that she said earlier after her release, that when Hamas took her into Gaza, that when they crossed the border into Gaza, she was beaten with sticks by ordinary civilian Palestinians. I only read this reported once.

An 85 year old woman taken hostage with bruised ribs, sleeping in moist, cold conditions, and given very little to eat while sick and weak, and then invited to a Hamas tea party before she is released. Only true believers will fall for it.
 
Sundog said:
I also notice that the press aren't reporting something that she said earlier after her release, that when Hamas took her into Gaza, that when they crossed the border into Gaza, she was beaten with sticks by ordinary civilian Palestinians. I only read this reported once.

An 85 year old woman taken hostage with bruised ribs, sleeping in moist, cold conditions, and given very little to eat while sick and weak, and then invited to a Hamas tea party before she is released. Only true believers will fall for it.
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I wonder if the second woman will speak. I noticed in the video of the paramedic treating her in the ambulance that she showed she couldn’t move her left arm.
 
That's an interesting pivot. We heard that the terrorists were promised an apartment and money for abducting civilians. Now the people of Gaza are promised money and relocation for revealing the location of hostages, and Hamas leaders. The assumption seems to be that they will do anything for money.
 
otto said:
That's an interesting pivot. We heard that the terrorists were promised an apartment and money for abducting civilians. Now the people of Gaza are promised money and relocation for revealing the location of hostages, and Hamas leaders. The assumption seems to be that they will do anything for money.
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It may be tempting if Palestinians in Gaza understand that the status quo is changing and Gaza as they know it isn't going to continue.
 
otto said:
That's an interesting pivot. We heard that the terrorists were promised an apartment and money for abducting civilians. Now the people of Gaza are promised money and relocation for revealing the location of hostages, and Hamas leaders. The assumption seems to be that they will do anything for money.
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The Crime Stoppers program in many US cities allows tipsters to remain anonymous so they won't face retaliation within their community.

JMO
 
sds71 said:
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"We walked for miles in tunnels underground. There were five of us and each one had someone to watch over him"

Lifschitz said there were doctors and paramedics waiting to receive them.

“There were guards and a paramedic and a doctor who took care of the fact that we’ll have the same medicine that
we need.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716744763213271238

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716745935370240153

www.cnn.com

October 24, 2023 - Israel-Hamas war

As the humanitarian crisis deepens for millions in Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said the military will not allow fuel to enter the enclave because it alleges Hamas needs it for its operational infrastructure.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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RSBM

“There were guards and a paramedic and a doctor who took care of the fact that we’ll have the same medicine that we need.”

- Guards come from Hamas
- Paramedics come from the Palestinian Red Crescent
- Doctors come from the Gazan Health Ministry which is run by Hamas

Interesting that they were there waiting for hostages to show up and prepared to provide all required prescription drugs.
Interesting too that to date the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has still not been given any access to the hostages forcibly relocated to Gaza on 7 October (except to receive four of them from Hamas terrorists for onward transfer).

She says all of the above were well prepared for their arrival.

Says a whole heck of a bunch about complicity of people not identifying as terrorists with Hamas.

I am so thankful that this hostage is released and doing well. Her statement is so telling if one really reads the details.
 
otto said:
That's an interesting pivot. We heard that the terrorists were promised an apartment and money for abducting civilians. Now the people of Gaza are promised money and relocation for revealing the location of hostages, and Hamas leaders. The assumption seems to be that they will do anything for money.
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I hope that Palestinians who can provide information and who do not support Hamas are enticed to accept this offer. And if they do, I hope Israel really does protect them. The Pollyanna in me wants to think that this is a good opportunity for Israel to build relationships with - and be a safety zone for - ordinary Palestinians who do not support Hamas but who don’t speak up because they don’t want to risk themselves or their families being harmed.
 
Vern said:
RSBM

“There were guards and a paramedic and a doctor who took care of the fact that we’ll have the same medicine that we need.”

- Guards come from Hamas
- Paramedics come from the Palestinian Red Crescent
- Doctors come from the Gazan Health Ministry which is run by Hamas

Interesting that they were there waiting for hostages to show up and prepared to provide all required prescription drugs.
Interesting too that to date the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has still not been given any access to the hostages forcibly relocated to Gaza on 7 October (except to receive four of them from Hamas terrorists for onward transfer).

She says all of the above were well prepared for their arrival.

Says a whole heck of a bunch about complicity of people not identifying as terrorists with Hamas.

I am so thankful that this hostage is released and doing well. Her statement is so telling if one really reads the details.
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Wow. Great points.
 
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