GUILTY Italy - Ashley Olsen, 35, American, strangled in Florence, 9 Jan 2016

[Patagonia]

Although, lets not forget that this is also from his statement. I'm not sure if anybody else witnessed this fight between Ashley and her friend.

 

[Patagonia]

Poor little Scout. Ashley's friend brought him by the house (this was before the funeral)

http://www.lanazione.it/firenze/foto/ashley-olsen-cane-scout-1.1639029

The caption above the photo says something along the lines:

Left alone, without his guardian, without the person with whom he lived in symbiosis. Scout the dog, Ashley Olsen's dog, the girl killed in Oltrarno, is no longer with the one who caressed him, taking him around town and on vacations to the island of Elba. Scout is back in front of the house where he lived until the other day. Ashley's friend, who now cares for the dog, brought him to the little corner filled with flowers and notes, placed there by the friends of the victim. Scout is reaching for the flowers and the threshold of the house, as he is reminded of his mistress. As if to return to their previous life, when he lived there in via Santa Monaca with Ashley. His eyes say it all. He is lost and he saw her killing.


Eyes welling up

 

[jjenny]

Poor friend is never going to forgive herself for that.

If an adult woman wanted to do something (in this case apparently to pick up a man in a club) there is nothing a friend could have done to stop it.

 

[Bravo]

Poor little Scout. Ashley's friend brought him by the house (this was before the funeral)

http://www.lanazione.it/firenze/foto/ashley-olsen-cane-scout-1.1639029

The caption above the photo says something along the lines:

Left alone, without his guardian, without the person with whom he lived in symbiosis. Scout the dog, Ashley Olsen's dog, the girl killed in Oltrarno, is no longer with the one who caressed him, taking him around town and on vacations to the island of Elba. Scout is back in front of the house where he lived until the other day. Ashley's friend, who now cares for the dog, brought him to the little corner filled with flowers and notes, placed there by the friends of the victim. Scout is reaching for the flowers and the threshold of the house, as he is reminded of his mistress. As if to return to their previous life, when he lived there in via Santa Monaca with Ashley. His eyes say it all. He is lost and he saw her killing.


Eyes welling up

Oh gawd :grouphug:

 

[Coquette]

Poor friend is never going to forgive herself for that.

No, she's not. Had her friend stayed with her... That's a tough cross to bear. And her friend Jade was clearly devoted to her. Her poor friend indeed.

I hope people rethink leaving women friends alone in bars when they're clearly drunk or on drugs, especially if they're also emotionally distressed. It's far too easy to make really poor decisions when you're alone and impaired.

 

[Coquette]

Poor little Scout. Ashley's friend brought him by the house (this was before the funeral)

http://www.lanazione.it/firenze/foto/ashley-olsen-cane-scout-1.1639029

The caption above the photo says something along the lines:

Left alone, without his guardian, without the person with whom he lived in symbiosis. Scout the dog, Ashley Olsen's dog, the girl killed in Oltrarno, is no longer with the one who caressed him, taking him around town and on vacations to the island of Elba. Scout is back in front of the house where he lived until the other day. Ashley's friend, who now cares for the dog, brought him to the little corner filled with flowers and notes, placed there by the friends of the victim. Scout is reaching for the flowers and the threshold of the house, as he is reminded of his mistress. As if to return to their previous life, when he lived there in via Santa Monaca with Ashley. His eyes say it all. He is lost and he saw her killing.


Eyes welling up

Oh, those photos! I held my breath looking at them. That poor, sweet little boy. This is why I hope he's kept in Florence. He'd still be able to enjoy a familiar routine and be surrounded by familiar people who were part of Ashley's life there. She seemed to have a lot of free time to roam the streets and savor life there. I'd hate to think of her beloved dog locked away during the day and cared for by someone who doesn't have the time to wander and explore with him as she clearly did. I have a soft spot for tender, traumatized animals. Poor baby.

 

[Bravo]

Oh, those photos! I held my breath looking at them. That poor, sweet little boy. This is why I hope he's kept in Florence. He'd still be able to enjoy a familiar routine and be surrounded by familiar people who were part of Ashley's life there. She seemed to have a lot of free time to roam the streets and savor life there. I'd hate to think of her beloved dog locked away during the day and cared for by someone who doesn't have the time to wander and explore with him as she clearly did. I have a soft spot for tender, traumatized animals. Poor baby.

I hear you. I am a Glamother to 2 black labs. One I dogsit daily while Son is at work. I would lay down my life for Miss Avery and Miss Molly. I hope he does have a good and attentive home. Breaks my heart.

 

[bwt42]

Imho Ashley put scout at risk. This "dangerous" man could just as well have seriously injured him if he howled as beagles are want to do.

 

[Coquette]

Imho Ashley put scout at risk. This "dangerous" man could just as well have seriously injured him if he howled as beagles are want to do.

Yes, she did. And she likely didn't know it. It sounds like she had known of this man from around town and perhaps felt the sense of safety one feels when they are ex-pats in a foreign land and have experienced the open door invitations that are so common amongst fellow ex-pats when you know some of the same people. She couldn't have known this man would kill her. And she obviously wouldn't have placed her beloved beagle Scout at risk intentionally or if she'd had a clear head. Pointing a finger at her after the fact is, well, pointless. MOO.

 

[bookboarder]

I wonder if there are any similar unsolved murders in his home country of Senegal. It would be interesting to see if the MO or anything matched up, if there are?

This level of depravity reeks of a sociopathic mind and an ease with taking someone's life. I'm sure you all know that these are traits known to be found in many serial killers....

:notgood:

 

[Patagonia]

Today's article in Italian newspapers: ''Mi manchi così tanto'' (I miss you so very much)

The article states that Federico Fiorentini, Ashley Olsen's boyfriend, wrote a letter on the Internet to express his feelings of pain and sadness, and to thank the police and Ashley's loved ones.

"I want to thank the investigating team and all those who have worked to solve this irreparable monstrosity.
I would also like to thank the real friends of Ashley: Pernille, Hildur, Marielle and Marvin; these are the first that come to mind.
I also thank the rare journalists who have shown professionalism and respect for the pain.
Ashley, with her grace and kindness, will forever remain in the thoughts and hearts of those who loved her.
My hugs goe to Ashley's family and all the close friends."

The article further comments on the posts Federico published on his Facebook page along with photos of him and Ashley togehther. https://www.facebook.com/federico.fiorentini.33

Heartbraking. I feel so sad for Federico. That poor man must be going through sheer hell.

He is described as a very gentle and kind soul, and is a well know artist (painter) in Florence, who had exhibitions around the globe. (This is his professional website: http://www.federicofiorentini.com/ There is also a painting of Ashley among his work. She posted it on her Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/p/yDO4eZoizs/?taken-by=ashleyannolsen )


There was obviously a lot of love between the two of them, regardless of the events that occurred on that tragic night. And my utmost respect goes to this man, and to the immense grace and dignity that he has shown in this unbearable situation. In my opinion, that is what best reflects who Ashley truly was, and not the last night of her life.

 

[jjenny]

Sounds to me like the boyfriend cared for her a lot.

 

[Patagonia]

Oh, those photos! I held my breath looking at them. That poor, sweet little boy. This is why I hope he's kept in Florence. He'd still be able to enjoy a familiar routine and be surrounded by familiar people who were part of Ashley's life there. She seemed to have a lot of free time to roam the streets and savor life there. I'd hate to think of her beloved dog locked away during the day and cared for by someone who doesn't have the time to wander and explore with him as she clearly did. I have a soft spot for tender, traumatized animals. Poor baby.

I too have a very soft spot for animals, which is also another reason why I've been so deeply affected by this horrible story. I keep looking at her Instagram page and seeing all those photos of her and Scout together, the way she constantly referred to him, and the deep bond and love that they clearly shared, it just completely breaks my heart.

I have a very similar relationship with my own pet so can very much relate. Ashley's Instagram page is literally filled with her affection towards Scout. Which, in my mind, speaks for itself. And shows what kind of a big and gentle heart she had. And that is her biggest legacy. And in the end is what matters most.

And I also hope that her beloved little Beagle will be able to live with someone who has sufficient time to give him all the love and attention in the world. Whoever that might be. But I'm sure her loved ones will want to see to that, too.

 

[Patagonia]

I hear you. I am a Glamother to 2 black labs. One I dogsit daily while Son is at work. I would lay down my life for Miss Avery and Miss Molly. I hope he does have a good and attentive home. Breaks my heart.

I think if Scout remains in Florence that Federico might want to take him. He was obviously very close to the doggy. And would perhaps be able to find some comfort in Scout, and in honouring Ashley's memory in that way too...

Poor, poor man.

From what I read in Italian newspapers, people in Italy speak of him with great respect, he appears to be a lovely person.

And I saw on his Facebook page that he also has a cat of his own, one he mentions very often, so he obviously loves animals.

I feel terrible for Ashley's family, too... They all seem to have been very close. And there is absolutely nothing worse, that can happen to you in this life, than to lose a child in this way.

 

[Patagonia]

Imho Ashley put scout at risk. This "dangerous" man could just as well have seriously injured him if he howled as beagles are want to do.

Yes, she obviously did put both Scout and herself in danger. But she paid the ultimate price for that terrible mistake - she lost her life. So it certainly wasn't intentional. And I agree with previous posters that it was, in all likelihood, due to her judgment unfortunately being impaired.

And while nobody is claiming that she didn't make a series of wrong decisions on that night, that certainly doesn't mean that it was somehow her fault that she got killed. Nor does that night define who she was as a person.

I'm sure none of us can say that we've always led a perfect life and never made any stupid mistakes. So who are we to judge. Especially since we didn't even know her personally. But from what I can see, those who did know her, have nothing but good things to say about her.



p.s. This was also linked in one of the Italian articles, a commercial Ashley was in (with little Scout also present):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYGcgGVKFM


It's humbling how very fragile we are. Puts things into a different perspective, doesn't it

 

[bwt42]

If I came home and found my wife in bed with another man, telling me hey we all make mistakes just wouldn't fly. Don't mean to single out Ashley, but I get tired of hearing we all make mistakes. ps If. her boyfriend can forgive her for what she did to him he's a better man than me.

 

[Patagonia]

Her boyfriend obviously thinks that she deserves forgiveness.

And he knew her (and what their relationship was like) better than any of us.

 

[Coquette]

Ashley didn't do anything to her boyfriend. He didn't find her in bed with another man; he found her murdered by another man. The rest was between them. If he has forgiven her for any actions she took while they were not speaking after their fight, then that speaks volumes. None of us know all of the details of their relationship. This is not the place to blame or shame Ashley - the victim.

 

[RainCheck]

Ashley's family released a statement concerning the negative way the media has portrayed her based mostly on statements made by the man who killed her. They say she had a severe bladder infection and was taking antibiotics for it.

https://historiccity.com/2016/staug...y-olsen-say-daughter-was-not-party-girl-57564

If that's true, which I have no reason to believe it isn't, it's highly unlikely the sex was consensual. Anyone who has had a severe bladder infection knows how painful they are.

 

[lexycat]

Severe bladder infections are painful. I really wouldn't feel like being out at a pub/nightclub, and certainly not drinking while taking antibiotics, jmo.