Italy - Sailing yacht sank off Italian coast, 15 rescued, 7 missing, 19 August 2024

[LadyL]

In this photo taken previously it looks like the yacht is about to turn over. The water is right up to it.

How heroic effort went from rescue mission to recovery operation

Search teams made the tragic discoveries yesterday while scouring through the ruins of the luxury sailboat, which sank off the coast of Sicily after being hit by a waterspout on Monday morning.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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ya that scares me silly

 

[Luna20]

ya that scares me silly

There is no way that I would feel safe with a tilt of this magnitude. The people don’t look concerned though.

The sides don’t look as tall as they look on a regular yacht. I’m not familiar with the details but I’d call it a large sail boat.

 

[Rikissa]

There is no way that I would feel safe with a tilt of this magnitude. The people don’t look concerned though.

The sides don’t look as tall as they look on a regular yacht. I’m not familiar with the details but I’d call it a large sail boat.

A sailing yacht is a sailboat, any boat with a mast and sail, regardless of size and type, is a sailboat. Yacht is a boat type with a length of more than 10 metres (33 feet), and they can either be sail- or motorpowered.

Sailing yacht - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yacht - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Rikissa]

In this photo taken previously it looks like the yacht is about to turn over. The water is right up to it.
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It seems to be under full sail, and it has a keel, its not about to turn over, it's a normal tilt for sailboats, and it was built for that. If the mast was to break, then there might be danger, as that would shift the balance of the yacht.

 

[MollyHarps]

The identities of the bodies have now been confirmed

Superyacht sinks latest: Five bodies identified including tech tycoon Mike Lynch - but daughter still missing

Five bodies have been found and now identified in the search for those missing after a yacht sank off the Sicily coast, including that of tech tycoon Mike Lynch. His daughter, 18, remains unaccounted for. Six people have died in total.

news.sky.com

It’s the daughters body that is still missing - I hope they find her today.

 

[Dotta]

A sailing yacht is a sailboat, any boat with a mast and sail, regardless of size and type, is a sailboat. Yacht is a boat type with a length of more than 10 metres (33 feet), and they can either be sail- or motorpowered.

Sailing yacht - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yacht - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

This is so interesting
(from links above)

"The term, yacht, originates from the Dutch word jacht (pl. jachten), which means "hunt", and originally referred to light, fast sailing vessels that the Dutch Republic navy used to pursue pirates and other transgressors around and into the shallow waters of the Low Countries."



An 18th - century Dutch "jacht"

 

[Skigh]

Why did the Bayesian capsize? Unearthed clip shows what SHOULD happen

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

Part of that investigation will centre on the ship's keel, which was partially elevated at the time of the storm.

The keel, which extends like a giant fin underneath the boat and acts as a counterweight to the tall mast, was not fully down despite poor weather being forecast hours earlier.

It comes as an unearthed video from 2019 shot in Auckland, New Zealand, showed what should happen when a ship like the Bayesian overturns in stormy weather.

Earlier today, the Mail's Robert Hardman revealed CCTV footage of a tornado pushing a large superyacht with a similar mast style to the Bayesian onto its side.

But rather than capsizing, the mast quickly flips straight back up to its upright position.

 

[Tortoise]

Why did the Bayesian capsize? Unearthed clip shows what SHOULD happen

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

Part of that investigation will centre on the ship's keel, which was partially elevated at the time of the storm.

The keel, which extends like a giant fin underneath the boat and acts as a counterweight to the tall mast, was not fully down despite poor weather being forecast hours earlier.

It comes as an unearthed video from 2019 shot in Auckland, New Zealand, showed what should happen when a ship like the Bayesian overturns in stormy weather.

Earlier today, the Mail's Robert Hardman revealed CCTV footage of a tornado pushing a large superyacht with a similar mast style to the Bayesian onto its side.

But rather than capsizing, the mast quickly flips straight back up to its upright position.

So if I'm understanding this correctly they had sixteen minutes to evacuate?

"The dynamic of the sinking is seen and read from AIS (Automatic Identification System) data and lasted sixteen minutes.

"We have given this data to the prosecutors at Termini Immerse. From the images it looks as if the yacht had been taking on water for four minutes."

 

[Tortoise]

The identities of the bodies have now been confirmed

Superyacht sinks latest: Five bodies identified including tech tycoon Mike Lynch - but daughter still missing

Five bodies have been found and now identified in the search for those missing after a yacht sank off the Sicily coast, including that of tech tycoon Mike Lynch. His daughter, 18, remains unaccounted for. Six people have died in total.

news.sky.com

It’s the daughters body that is still missing - I hope they find her today.

There were six guest cabins and six separate families/couples I believe, or have I got that wrong? I wonder if Hannah was sharing the master suite with her parents?

 

[Tortoise]

There were six guest cabins and six separate families/couples I believe, or have I got that wrong? I wonder if Hannah was sharing the master suite with her parents?

Oh I think I have that wrong. I think it was five couples (including one with the baby) and Hannah, occupying the six rooms.

 

[ItalyReader]

Is it possible Hannah, the only remaining missing person, might still be afloat somewhere? I know she could be in the yacht, but what are the possibilities that she might have put on a life vest, was carried away by a current, but survived? Possible? Hoping anyway. I don't know the paths of currents there. But since the water is very warm, if she didn't go down with the boat, it might be a factor in helping her survive until found.

 

[Tortoise]

'Mistakes were made' - CEO of The Italian Sea Group​

12:50 BST​

Image source,Mateo Brenninkmeijer
Image caption,
The Bayesian yacht
"Everything that was done reveals a very long list of errors," according to Giovanni Costantino, CEO of The Italian Sea Group, which owns Perini Navi - the company who built the Bayesian.

He tells Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera:

• the yacht shouldn't have been at anchor
• the stern hatch was clearly open
• the ship's keel - the blade sticking into the water from underneath - should have been lowered
• people shouldn't have been in the cabins
• the crew should have known about the incoming storm

"Ask yourself," he says. "Why were no fishermen from Porticello out that night? A fisherman reads the weather conditions and a ship doesn't?

"The storm was in all the weather charts. It couldn't have been ignored."

Costantino says the sinking could have been avoided. It is good practice, he says, to have a guard on the bridge when a ship is anchored.

A guard would have seen the storm coming and the necessary measures would have been taken, he adds.

Bayesian live updates: One person still missing as officials work to identify five bodies found on Sicily yacht

 

[Yellowbelly]

Why did the Bayesian capsize? Unearthed clip shows what SHOULD happen

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Italian prosecutors will now look to explain why the Bayesian sank when other nearby boats managed to stay afloat during the freak storm.

Part of that investigation will centre on the ship's keel, which was partially elevated at the time of the storm.

The keel, which extends like a giant fin underneath the boat and acts as a counterweight to the tall mast, was not fully down despite poor weather being forecast hours earlier.

It comes as an unearthed video from 2019 shot in Auckland, New Zealand, showed what should happen when a ship like the Bayesian overturns in stormy weather.

Earlier today, the Mail's Robert Hardman revealed CCTV footage of a tornado pushing a large superyacht with a similar mast style to the Bayesian onto its side.

But rather than capsizing, the mast quickly flips straight back up to its upright position.

Clearly, the designers are throwing the crew under the bus in that article. It'll be interesting to see what the crew's take on things is when they speak to the media.

The Italian authorities will investigate to see if criminal charges should be brought against anyone, but under international maritime law responsibility for determining why a ship foundered rests with the country of registration, so even though the Bayesian sank in Italian waters, it's the UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch that should lead that part of the investigation. The MAIB have announced that their invesigation has started.

Marine Accident Investigation Branch: current investigations

www.gov.uk