Italy - Sailing yacht sank off Italian coast, 15 rescued, 7 missing, 19 August 2024

[LifeIsAMystery]

Bayesian superyacht victims were trapped alive when ship went down, died of ‘dry drowning’: report

None of the four victims — whose autopsies were done — had water in their lungs, trachea, or stomach.

nypost.com

 

[LadyL]

Bayesian superyacht victims were trapped alive when ship went down, died of ‘dry drowning’: report

None of the four victims — whose autopsies were done — had water in their lungs, trachea, or stomach.

nypost.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831441288937300292

devastating - those poor people

 

[RedHaus]

Bayesian superyacht victims were trapped alive when ship went down, died of ‘dry drowning’: report

None of the four victims — whose autopsies were done — had water in their lungs, trachea, or stomach.

nypost.com

OMG, that is just heartbreaking.

I apologize for my musings about the accuracy of early reporting they were huddled together with a final air pocket. They were. And to think of the hydrostatic pressure on their ears as they descended to 50M is simply unimaginable.

 

[Yellowbelly]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831441288937300292

Just when you thought this couldn't get anymore tragic...

A couple of points. Firstly, there's a disparity between the Mail's version of this story and the NY Post's. The Mail says that the Morvillo's drowned, but the NY Post says that all four suffocated.

Secondly, the Mail have revealed that it was Angela Bacares herself who went back down to try and warn the other passengers after she went up top and realised how dangerous the situation was. I'm becoming more convinced that the crew are going to end up being found negilgent here. If the crew knew that the yacht was in trouble and told the owner so when she went up on deck to talk to them, why on earth hadn't one of the crew already been told to go down and wake the passengers!

 

[bmacmillan1]

Just when you thought this couldn't get anymore tragic...

A couple of points. Firstly, there's a disparity between the Mail's version of this story and the NY Post's. The Mail says that the Morvillo's drowned, but the NY Post says that all four suffocated.

Secondly, the Mail have revealed that it was Angela Bacares herself who went back down to try and warn the other passengers after she went up top and realised how dangerous the situation was. I'm becoming more convinced that the crew are going to end up being found negilgent here. If the crew knew that the yacht was in trouble and told the owner so when she went up on deck to talk to them, why on earth hadn't one of the crew already been told to go down and wake the passengers!

I keep changing my opinion after reading all the articles - that it sounds like the crew and captain could be found not guilty of negligence and that the sinking could be determined as an Act of God with the freak weather that took place. Hope the inquiry doesn't take too long.
I have no experience with sailing whatsoever so my opinion is not from a knowledgeable view.

 

[RedHaus]

Secondly, the Mail have revealed that it was Angela Bacares herself who went back down to try and warn the other passengers after she went up top and realised how dangerous the situation was. I'm becoming more convinced that the crew are going to end up being found negilgent here. If the crew knew that the yacht was in trouble and told the owner so when she went up on deck to talk to them, why on earth hadn't one of the crew already been told to go down and wake the passengers!

RSBM
I was going to take a break from this case for my emotional health. The last moments of these souls haunts me.

But your post brought be back @Yellowbelly to say I agree. And perhaps these autopsy results and additional reporting of the events have heightened my anger towards the crew, warranted or not.

Why didn't the crew take the warnings of possible violent storms (as we confirmed here) seriously enough to anchor in a protected cove? They were 1/2 mile off the coast, and possibly sitting ducks to violent storms.

Why did the Watchman wait until winds were 20 knots (23 mph) before waking the captain? Especially given the stark alerts about possible violent storms with the cold front that was in the region, clashing with warm air and water.

Why didn't the crew immediately prioritize getting below deck passengers up to the Saloon? Three or four crew should have been immediately ordered to go below deck and help people up the stairs as glass broke and the yacht yawed.

Why wasn't the keel dropped? Or the anchor pulled? Or the engines started to gain control (presuming these are true)

Yes, the storm was a freak, but it was forewarned, at least for 18 August. And yes, the time was limited to respond to the event, but did the captain and crew prioritize their actions correctly?

So I agree, I think there is culpability. But I believe from what I've read, that this will take years to sort out. The Conception case in the U.S. I posted earlier occurred 2019 but the Captain was not sentenced to prison until 2024.

IMO.

 

[Dotta]

RSBM
I was going to take a break from this case for my emotional health. The last moments of these souls haunts me.

But your post brought be back @Yellowbelly to say I agree. And perhaps these autopsy results and additional reporting of the events have heightened my anger towards the crew, warranted or not.

Why didn't the crew take the warnings of possible violent storms (as we confirmed here) seriously enough to anchor in a protected cove? They were 1/2 mile off the coast, and possibly sitting ducks to violent storms.

Why did the Watchman wait until winds were 20 knots (23 mph) before waking the captain? Especially given the stark alerts about possible violent storms given the cold front that was in the region, clashing with warm air and water.

Why didn't the crew immediately prioritize getting below deck passengers up to the Saloon? Three or four crew should have been immediately ordered to go below deck and help people up the stairs as glass broke and the yacht yawed.

Why wasn't the keel dropped? Or the anchor pulled? Or the engines started to gain control (presuming these are true)

Yes, the storm was a freak, but it was forewarned, at least for 18 August. And yes, the time was limited to respond to the event, but did the captain and crew prioritize their actions correctly?

So I agree, I think there is culpability. But I believe from what I've read, that this will take years to sort out. The Conception case in the U.S. I posted earlier occurred 2019 but the Captain was not sentenced to prison until 2024.

IMO.

Yes, Yes and Yes!

Thanks for this post!

Do you read my mind?

 

[Tortoise]

As the boat went down, Mr and Mrs Bloomer were said to have suffocated as oxygen ran out, and not drowned, La Repubblica reported.

Their post-mortems, along with those of Mr Morvillo and his wife, were said to have found no water in their lungs, suggesting they died as their cabins filled with carbon dioxide and ran out of oxygen. [...]

There were no signs of injuries to the four victims examined so far, La Repubblica added. [...]

The remaining post-mortems, on Mr Lynch, his daughter, and Mr Thomas, will be carried out on Friday [...]


more to read at link, including purported quotes from the captain
Bayesian superyacht sinking: Banking boss and wife 'suffocated in air bubble as oxygen ran out'