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to Casey.... The following is information I have also forwarded to the OCSO.
Please decipher and perhaps we can come up with more clues here, maybe there is a link after all?
Ok I have been considering the evidence or lack thereof the police have provided in Nicole Ganguzza's case.
The police have limited the evidence provided to the media in Nicole Ganguzza's case. I was wondering if you can review the following to see if there may be a connection to the Caylee Marie Anthony disappearance.
I will break downs some of what I know from reading the news reports on Nicole's case:
1. She left class at 5:45 to jog before returning home.
2. She parked her car at the Dean Road entrance to Blanchard Park at approximately 5:55-6:00 pm.
3. A running shoe was found next to her car at the Dean road parking area, collected as evidence.
4. Nicole's Body was found approximately 2 miles down the trail near the N Econlockhachee road parking area.
5. Her body was in the thicket the victim was heavily scratched by the thicket as were the police searched the area and found her and gathered evidence. Most undoubtedly so was the perp.
6. The scene was gruesome according to the reports.
7. It has not been reported as of yet if she had been raped or not.
8. Cloths were gathered at the scene.
9. Police reported that they feel the perp waited for her as she jogged by and snatched her.
10. "She worked as a graduate-student-counseling intern for a Winter Springs counselor. According to the counselor's Web site, Ganguzza had worked with homeless people, children and adolescents in the juvenile-justice system, people with disabilities and families affected by physical and sexual abuse. She also did counseling at the community clinic at UCF. Her interests included working with troubled youth, older adults, people with life-threatening illnesses, couples and families and personal growth, according to the Web site." Quoted from http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...cf-jogger-slain-061208,0,7295335.story?page=2
10. Dean Road entrance closes at 7:30 Rouse Road Entrance Closes at 8
M (summer hours) These are the only exits available between Dean Road and Rouse Road. Other parking areas are available along the trail but they do not connect with any roadway to these exits. These exits are the only ones connected with a roadway between each other. If you are late your car will be locked inside.
11. About 2 miles down the trail is the N Econlockhachee entrance this parking is really not much to speak of. The area does not look like Google Earth anymore, the road has been adjusted since and there is a small dirt parking area next to the post office parking area that slopes downward slightly from the road view. No gate at all to this parking area.
12. Farther down the trail several more miles is another parking area that you can access from 50, I have never been there cannot say what it is like but it is far away and not likely near enough to be of interest. This is close to Chickasaw Trail.
Now let's examine this evidence
1. It takes about 10-15 minutes to get from UCF to this parking lot so 5:55 6pm sounds on schedule.
2. The location she was found is about 2 miles from her car, Most people recommend doing a 10 minute mile, but some can get faster than that and a human can run up to 34 mph. A 10 minute mile would make a round trip from that point land back about 6:35 6:45 pm at Dean Road which leaves her a good 40 minutes for more running if she planned on leaving from the Dean road exit to about 65 minutes if she planned on driving back though the park and leaving at Rouse road giving 5 minutes for driving.
2. We do not know if this shoe is Nicole's or someone else, or if it is a man's or a woman's.
3. We don't know if Nicole really ran that far or was taken from somewhere in between or even from the parking lot. (shoe missing - was she wearing two when she was found or maybe there were two near her body since "cloths" were found there as well we do not know this information has not been revealed by the police.
4. If she was taken from dean road and driven to N. Econ. and drug to the woods from there it would not be difficult to do and to keep from being seen as at dusk as the area is not well lit and the parking does slope slightly downward from the roadway.
5. She could have been chloroformed with some struggle I presume at least at first. Placed in the back or trunk of a car and driven down to the other exit. Yes I used the C word! But there is a running shoe lying next to the car.
6. Then she could have been drug to that location and murdered.
7. A man and a woman will commit these crimes differently all we know is the scene was gruesome.
I would like to see more evidence in this case, what was the cause of death, how "gruesome" is gruesome. Were both her sneakers there? If so does this sneaker found at the car match any others belonging to Nicole? Was it a woman's sneaker or a man's? What size is it? Was there chloroform found in her system? I think at that time of day screaming could be heard as that post office is very busy and the body was not far from the back of it.
Now let's accelerate this one step farther, I pose the following as pure speculation as we have not seen any evidence that could confirm or deny these connections:
Casey Anthony's mother Cindy was supposedly seeing a counselor who suggested she take custody of Caylee and send Casey on her way. We do not know who this was, is there a connection here to the Nicole case? Perhaps the police have made one and this is perhaps why this has not been revealed, of everything we have learned about this case something as innocuous as who the counselor is surely would be revealed by now. Usually the "doctor/patient" privilege works the other way around. This person Surely would have an enormous insight into this case. If there is a connection where was Casey on the 10th, the 9th is the timeframe she went exploring life on her own and left the house outside of a brief return on the 15th and 16th and then again on the 18th (shovel day) and the 24th caught with the gas cans in her trunk. Could she have 1 committed this murder of Nicole G and could she have 2 made this murder look like a rape to take away from any appearance of involvement on her part just in case someone ran into some connection to her? It is known that she had chloroform in the trunk of her car at one point according to police evidence. Perhaps Caylee then heard or saw something and became a bigger liability than she initially was? Perhaps she sent her away with friends hoping she would forget what she saw? Perhaps she started down a certain path and felt she needed to go farther and murdered her as well? More questions at this point than answers as the evidence provided is limited so far. I have no additional evideence to connect these two crimes but perhaps the police can research this and see if there is a link between them.
Questions to resolve these speculations:
1. Who was the Counselor Cindy spoke with, is there a connection to Nicole? If so perhaps this was a motive that could link her to Nicole's case.
2. Who does the running shoe belong to?
3. How many running shoes was Nicole found with?
4. If this running shoe is not Nicole's does it fit Casey? And or does it match any shoes found in her car? Or House? Or is it a man's shoe?
5. Was Nicole drugged with chloroform or any other substance? If so this could be another link.
6. When was the search for chloroform on the internet by Casey performed? Prior to June 10 2008? She basically moved out of her residence with her parents on June 9th so the chances are good but the police have not revealed this information either.
7. Does any of the clothing found at the scene not belong to Nicole? Is it female clothing? If it is and does not belong to Nicole does it match any of Casey's belongings or is it her size?
8. Were there stabbing wounds? Could the knife found in Casey's car be the weapon used in Nicole's murder? Is there a connection here at all?
9. Casey left the house on hiatus on the 9th of June. Where was she on the 10th?
10. Why did Casey keep pointing to the 9th (prior obviously to the video reveling otherwise from the visit on the 15th with the great-grandfather) as the day she disappeared and why does she keep referring to Blanchard park so much. Is she forcing people to believe there is a link between her daughter's disappearance and this park because she wanted to use the crimes in that park as a cover? Or is she actually covering up one of her own in that park and removing suspicion from herself?
11. She keeps circling and bringing herself to this park location she mentions the big trail, how many children walk the big trail? These comments do not fit; she did mention Caylee liked the park next to the YMCA at least that bit of the story sounds like what a child would enjoy. I can see walking by the river but not referring to the big trail.
Am I stretching too far here? Could there be links in the evidence not revealed as of yet? Why chloroform a child as so many suggest making her sleep in the trunk? There are so many legitimate over the counter drugs that could be used much easier and be obtained much easier. Chloroform however would be superb for quickly knocking out an adult in order to commit a more heinous crime. A child would wake quickly inside a trunk under a dose of chloroform, maybe there was a bottle back there and maybe Caylee was drugged with some other medication and perhaps the chloroform leaked and something more dreadful happened. But why have the chloroform? Maybe the actual cause of death matches and she knows there would be a link right there? She just seems to be covering up a much bigger lie than the death of her child; she was given an out that could have had a much easier resolution for her than what will eventually transpire here. If she is covering up a second murder then perhaps she thinks her chances are better keeping quiet about what happened with Caylee and let the chips fall where they may.
Can the police confirm any of these speculations?
Can the police provide the answer to any of these questions?
Are they already on the trail putting this together or researching it?
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I would like to hear more, anything that you could reveal that could allow me to continue more research on this.
Sincerely,
A concerned citizen!
Please decipher and perhaps we can come up with more clues here, maybe there is a link after all?
Ok I have been considering the evidence or lack thereof the police have provided in Nicole Ganguzza's case.
The police have limited the evidence provided to the media in Nicole Ganguzza's case. I was wondering if you can review the following to see if there may be a connection to the Caylee Marie Anthony disappearance.
I will break downs some of what I know from reading the news reports on Nicole's case:
1. She left class at 5:45 to jog before returning home.
2. She parked her car at the Dean Road entrance to Blanchard Park at approximately 5:55-6:00 pm.
3. A running shoe was found next to her car at the Dean road parking area, collected as evidence.
4. Nicole's Body was found approximately 2 miles down the trail near the N Econlockhachee road parking area.
5. Her body was in the thicket the victim was heavily scratched by the thicket as were the police searched the area and found her and gathered evidence. Most undoubtedly so was the perp.
6. The scene was gruesome according to the reports.
7. It has not been reported as of yet if she had been raped or not.
8. Cloths were gathered at the scene.
9. Police reported that they feel the perp waited for her as she jogged by and snatched her.
10. "She worked as a graduate-student-counseling intern for a Winter Springs counselor. According to the counselor's Web site, Ganguzza had worked with homeless people, children and adolescents in the juvenile-justice system, people with disabilities and families affected by physical and sexual abuse. She also did counseling at the community clinic at UCF. Her interests included working with troubled youth, older adults, people with life-threatening illnesses, couples and families and personal growth, according to the Web site." Quoted from http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...cf-jogger-slain-061208,0,7295335.story?page=2
10. Dean Road entrance closes at 7:30 Rouse Road Entrance Closes at 8
M (summer hours) These are the only exits available between Dean Road and Rouse Road. Other parking areas are available along the trail but they do not connect with any roadway to these exits. These exits are the only ones connected with a roadway between each other. If you are late your car will be locked inside.11. About 2 miles down the trail is the N Econlockhachee entrance this parking is really not much to speak of. The area does not look like Google Earth anymore, the road has been adjusted since and there is a small dirt parking area next to the post office parking area that slopes downward slightly from the road view. No gate at all to this parking area.
12. Farther down the trail several more miles is another parking area that you can access from 50, I have never been there cannot say what it is like but it is far away and not likely near enough to be of interest. This is close to Chickasaw Trail.
Now let's examine this evidence
1. It takes about 10-15 minutes to get from UCF to this parking lot so 5:55 6pm sounds on schedule.
2. The location she was found is about 2 miles from her car, Most people recommend doing a 10 minute mile, but some can get faster than that and a human can run up to 34 mph. A 10 minute mile would make a round trip from that point land back about 6:35 6:45 pm at Dean Road which leaves her a good 40 minutes for more running if she planned on leaving from the Dean road exit to about 65 minutes if she planned on driving back though the park and leaving at Rouse road giving 5 minutes for driving.
2. We do not know if this shoe is Nicole's or someone else, or if it is a man's or a woman's.
3. We don't know if Nicole really ran that far or was taken from somewhere in between or even from the parking lot. (shoe missing - was she wearing two when she was found or maybe there were two near her body since "cloths" were found there as well we do not know this information has not been revealed by the police.
4. If she was taken from dean road and driven to N. Econ. and drug to the woods from there it would not be difficult to do and to keep from being seen as at dusk as the area is not well lit and the parking does slope slightly downward from the roadway.
5. She could have been chloroformed with some struggle I presume at least at first. Placed in the back or trunk of a car and driven down to the other exit. Yes I used the C word! But there is a running shoe lying next to the car.
6. Then she could have been drug to that location and murdered.
7. A man and a woman will commit these crimes differently all we know is the scene was gruesome.
I would like to see more evidence in this case, what was the cause of death, how "gruesome" is gruesome. Were both her sneakers there? If so does this sneaker found at the car match any others belonging to Nicole? Was it a woman's sneaker or a man's? What size is it? Was there chloroform found in her system? I think at that time of day screaming could be heard as that post office is very busy and the body was not far from the back of it.
Now let's accelerate this one step farther, I pose the following as pure speculation as we have not seen any evidence that could confirm or deny these connections:
Casey Anthony's mother Cindy was supposedly seeing a counselor who suggested she take custody of Caylee and send Casey on her way. We do not know who this was, is there a connection here to the Nicole case? Perhaps the police have made one and this is perhaps why this has not been revealed, of everything we have learned about this case something as innocuous as who the counselor is surely would be revealed by now. Usually the "doctor/patient" privilege works the other way around. This person Surely would have an enormous insight into this case. If there is a connection where was Casey on the 10th, the 9th is the timeframe she went exploring life on her own and left the house outside of a brief return on the 15th and 16th and then again on the 18th (shovel day) and the 24th caught with the gas cans in her trunk. Could she have 1 committed this murder of Nicole G and could she have 2 made this murder look like a rape to take away from any appearance of involvement on her part just in case someone ran into some connection to her? It is known that she had chloroform in the trunk of her car at one point according to police evidence. Perhaps Caylee then heard or saw something and became a bigger liability than she initially was? Perhaps she sent her away with friends hoping she would forget what she saw? Perhaps she started down a certain path and felt she needed to go farther and murdered her as well? More questions at this point than answers as the evidence provided is limited so far. I have no additional evideence to connect these two crimes but perhaps the police can research this and see if there is a link between them.
Questions to resolve these speculations:
1. Who was the Counselor Cindy spoke with, is there a connection to Nicole? If so perhaps this was a motive that could link her to Nicole's case.
2. Who does the running shoe belong to?
3. How many running shoes was Nicole found with?
4. If this running shoe is not Nicole's does it fit Casey? And or does it match any shoes found in her car? Or House? Or is it a man's shoe?
5. Was Nicole drugged with chloroform or any other substance? If so this could be another link.
6. When was the search for chloroform on the internet by Casey performed? Prior to June 10 2008? She basically moved out of her residence with her parents on June 9th so the chances are good but the police have not revealed this information either.
7. Does any of the clothing found at the scene not belong to Nicole? Is it female clothing? If it is and does not belong to Nicole does it match any of Casey's belongings or is it her size?
8. Were there stabbing wounds? Could the knife found in Casey's car be the weapon used in Nicole's murder? Is there a connection here at all?
9. Casey left the house on hiatus on the 9th of June. Where was she on the 10th?
10. Why did Casey keep pointing to the 9th (prior obviously to the video reveling otherwise from the visit on the 15th with the great-grandfather) as the day she disappeared and why does she keep referring to Blanchard park so much. Is she forcing people to believe there is a link between her daughter's disappearance and this park because she wanted to use the crimes in that park as a cover? Or is she actually covering up one of her own in that park and removing suspicion from herself?
11. She keeps circling and bringing herself to this park location she mentions the big trail, how many children walk the big trail? These comments do not fit; she did mention Caylee liked the park next to the YMCA at least that bit of the story sounds like what a child would enjoy. I can see walking by the river but not referring to the big trail.
Am I stretching too far here? Could there be links in the evidence not revealed as of yet? Why chloroform a child as so many suggest making her sleep in the trunk? There are so many legitimate over the counter drugs that could be used much easier and be obtained much easier. Chloroform however would be superb for quickly knocking out an adult in order to commit a more heinous crime. A child would wake quickly inside a trunk under a dose of chloroform, maybe there was a bottle back there and maybe Caylee was drugged with some other medication and perhaps the chloroform leaked and something more dreadful happened. But why have the chloroform? Maybe the actual cause of death matches and she knows there would be a link right there? She just seems to be covering up a much bigger lie than the death of her child; she was given an out that could have had a much easier resolution for her than what will eventually transpire here. If she is covering up a second murder then perhaps she thinks her chances are better keeping quiet about what happened with Caylee and let the chips fall where they may.
Can the police confirm any of these speculations?
Can the police provide the answer to any of these questions?
Are they already on the trail putting this together or researching it?
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I would like to hear more, anything that you could reveal that could allow me to continue more research on this.
Sincerely,
A concerned citizen!
