J Blanchard Park #1

[karenc333]

With all due respect, what you are failing to take into consideration is the goose-chase at Universal ... how do you explain her taking them there? Doesn't seem to fit your scenario IMHO.

If you think about, she took the police on a goose chase more than other places than universal. Maybe there were people at Universal that could be connected somehow. Maybe she was trying to point them in some kind of direction without saying anything specific.

 

[karenc333]

Are you saying that chloroform had been used on Nicole?

Yes, that is my understanding.

 

[Seranade]

Yes, that is my understanding.

That would be very, very interesting if true, but I can't find any verification. Do you have a link to where you may have read about this?

 

[krimekat]

I am unclear. How could she have said the car smelled if she had not been to the tow yard? I have not heard this before.

I love your theories but why would KC be researching in chloroform on her computer unless as the theory holds that she went after NG (the counseling connection??) herself. In which case she is guilty of even more than poor Caylee.

You know one of the rules of LE is that the answer is usually the shortest distance between 2 points. I tend to think she she just wanted to Caylee gone because she wanted to party and is only using this elaborate plot to muddy the waters.

Either way, no matter what, if my gd/daughter had been gone for over 3 months the time for the games are over. Also, NG last night had a point. If there was any evidence of a kidnapping the FBI would still be involved...

Cindy was at the tow yard with George
totally agree with that statement

 

[tx_Dot]

I read all 400+ pages of LE's documents. The 911 calls were on July 15, and they went to the tow yard on July 16. Statements by CA, GA, the tow yard owner, the tow truck driver and the lady who works in the office there, are all in the statements. The dates are all consistent.
So CA knew about the smell in the trunk the day before they even went to pick it up. The only way she could have known that, is if she already knew when she called 911 that little Caylee was no longer with us.

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HUH ??? Everything I've read says the car was picked up from the tow yard the afternoon of July 15th.........& the last 911 call (smells like a dead body) came in @ 9:40 PM the NIGHT of July 15th.

 

[karenc333]

That would be very, very interesting if true, but I can't find any verification. Do you have a link to where you may have read about this?

I can't remember exactly where I read it...I'm looking for a link now. I don't know if I read it on the internet news, or if I read it here. Errrrrrrr

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

I'm glad that I'm not the only one thinking this way. In the very beginning of this case...I thought Caylee was alive. However I did not believe Casey's story of the Zanny the nanny. I believed that something else happened...there had to be a reason that Casey was lying. Then when all the evidence came out about the decomposing body, the Chloroform...I started thinking more on the lines that Caylee might be dead. At the same time though...I kept thinking that if LE has all this evidence...why haven't they charged her. It was reasoned to me that maybe they were still trying to build their case. Okay...that made sense...that was possible.

But...then this Nicole case came more to light. And it came out that chloroform had been used on her. That's when I started thinking about things that have been said in the past to police by case, staements the Anthony's have said, things said during the jail phone conversations between Lee and Casey, etc...

But the thing that really stood out to me...after reading the police interogation (especially the one at Universal studios) in the documents and then hearing them after they were released...I started wondering...was Casey trying to drop them hints? She did say that she was trying to help them find Caylee in a backward kind of way. How the date June 9th kept being referred to. How there have been many references to Blanchard Park. etc.. etc... And then the jail phone conversation between Lee and Casey...all the "code" talk....references about who can be trused or more so, who could NOT be trusted. And again more references to Blanchard Park. And then George saying....the dead body that was in the trunk was not my grand-daughters...thinking...maybe they do know the truth...maybe they do know that there was someone elses dead body in the trunk. There are so many things that have been done and said that could point to this scenario.

Can you please give us a link for this?? I haven't heard in any of the news reports that chloroform was used on her.

 

[karenc333]

Can you please give us a link for this?? I haven't heard in any of the news reports that chloroform was used on her.

To be honest with you, I can't remember where I read it. I don't remember if I read it on the internet news or if I read it here, or possibly another forum I visit. I'm looking for a link on the internet news, but can't seem to find anything either. Errrrrrrr

So now I'm thinking that maybe it came from here or another forum and it was speculation. Heck for all I know, I dreamed it. LOL If I find a link verifying this, I will post it.

With that said...that does not rule out the possiblity that is what had happened...of course that is just speculation.

 

[eg@gm]

Casey probably did try to pretend like something may have happened at Blanchard Park just because of what happened to NG. Like she and Caylee would have went there when someone had just been found dead there!!

 

[krimekat]

Casey probably did try to pretend like something may have happened at Blanchard Park just because of what happened to NG. Like she and Caylee would have went there when someone had just been found dead there!!

reason the date 9 june was floated around for a while, too . . . imho.

 

[eg@gm]

Although, if this were the case, why didn't she just make up the story from the beginning that she and Caylee were in the park and someone kidnapped Caylee! Then she could have kept the lie going for a while. Thinking out loud here ... but maybe she wanted to have a little fun before the whole sad and desperate act, so she didn't want to go to the police then and there. Also, she had been telling friends that Caylee was with the nanny, so maybe she thought it was a little too late when the cops got involved for her to make up the kidnapping at the park story. She had to keep going with a lie that involved the nanny.

She was pretty stupid actually. If she wanted to get away with this, she really could have used the kidnapper at the park lie. It was good timing with the NG thing. I wonder if this is why she went back and changed her story to ZG and Sam kidnapping her at the park. Still, though, wonder why she didn't just say she had been lying all along and that some stranger took her. We might believe her more.

 

[karenc333]

Still, though, wonder why she didn't just say she had been lying all along and that some stranger took her. We might believe her more.

I think you bring up some good points. If Casey killed Caylee, she could have made up a more believable lie. But she didn't. That is why I think it's possible that there is some truth in her lies. That something else happened...and it didn't involve a stranger but people Casey knew.

 

[krimekat]

I think you bring up some good points. If Casey killed Caylee, she could have made up a more believable lie. But she didn't. That is why I think it's possible that there is some truth in her lies. That something else happened...and it didn't involve a stranger but people Casey knew.

And only Casey knew the Nanny, some one who had been taking care of her child for over a year!!!

 

[karenc333]

And only Casey knew the Nanny, some one who had been taking care of her child for over a year!!!

I don't believe Casey when she alleges that. I think if Caylee is alive, there is more to that story.

 

[Nemo]

Questions to resolve these speculations:
1. Who was the Counselor Cindy spoke with, is there a connection to Nicole? If so perhaps this was a motive that could link her to Nicole's case.
2. Who does the running shoe belong to?
3. How many running shoes was Nicole found with?
4. If this running shoe is not Nicole's does it fit Casey? And or does it match any shoes found in her car? Or House? Or is it a man's shoe?
5. Was Nicole drugged with chloroform or any other substance? If so this could be another link.
6. When was the search for chloroform on the internet by Casey performed? Prior to June 10 2008? She basically moved out of her residence with her parents on June 9th so the chances are good but the police have not revealed this information either.
7. Does any of the clothing found at the scene not belong to Nicole? Is it female clothing? If it is and does not belong to Nicole does it match any of Casey's belongings or is it her size?
8. Were there stabbing wounds? Could the knife found in Casey's car be the weapon used in Nicole's murder? Is there a connection here at all?
9. Casey left the house on hiatus on the 9th of June. Where was she on the 10th?
10. Why did Casey keep pointing to the 9th (prior obviously to the video reveling otherwise from the visit on the 15th with the great-grandfather) as the day she disappeared and why does she keep referring to Blanchard park so much. Is she forcing people to believe there is a link between her daughter's disappearance and this park because she wanted to use the crimes in that park as a cover? Or is she actually covering up one of her own in that park and removing suspicion from herself?
11. She keeps circling and bringing herself to this park location she mentions the big trail, how many children walk the big trail? These comments do not fit; she did mention Caylee liked the park next to the YMCA at least that bit of the story sounds like what a child would enjoy. I can see walking by the river but not referring to the big trail.


A concerned citizen!

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This is the first "Caylee could be alive" theory that I could possibly buy but what about the dogs hitting on the back yard?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This is the first "Caylee could be alive" theory that I could possibly buy but what about the dogs hitting on the back yard?

And what about this statement: "The information we've gotten back from the lab that she was in the trunk of that car and that she is dead is certainly something we take seriously," said Orange County Sheriff's Office Sgt. John Allen.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

To be honest with you, I can't remember where I read it. I don't remember if I read it on the internet news or if I read it here, or possibly another forum I visit. I'm looking for a link on the internet news, but can't seem to find anything either. Errrrrrrr

So now I'm thinking that maybe it came from here or another forum and it was speculation. Heck for all I know, I dreamed it. LOL If I find a link verifying this, I will post it.

With that said...that does not rule out the possiblity that is what had happened...of course that is just speculation.

No that's ok. I just didn't know if it was actually in the news since I've been following both cases very closely. It would change a lot of things if we knew factually that chloroform was used on her.

Thanks!

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

reason the date 9 june was floated around for a while, too . . . imho.

I agree. That's why I'm so stuck on searching the park. It would be easy to blame it on the "nanny" if Caylee turned up there. But ya never know. I just hope she is found.

 

[Nore]

I wonder if it was Casey's plan to disappear and make it look like she was somewhere out there with Caylee's body? But just never got around to the disappearing part?

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I have also thought this.She would have gone to Cal.,became new identity and started life all over again.She didnt count on mommy blowing the whistle.IMO

 

[liltigress]

I seriously think Casey changed the location to Blanchard Park because this may be the closest place to where Caylee will be found.

This will be easier for Casey to justify that the inviso-nanny with the script took her away.

She must be afraid LE is getting very close.