Spain Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #4

[thinker47]

Does anyone think that JS did not go with them voluntarily but was possibly forced to go with them? There are so many inconsistencies and variations. They said he had nowhere else to go yet he was staying in Los Chris and they could have dropped him there, they said he was going to walk 11 hours back and he had gone out to get cigarettes. It has now been said he had gone out for food. Now we are hearing that the two men went to bed as soon as they got to the accommodation. Why would JS voluntarily go there with people he hardly knew when he had accommodation of his own. It was stated that he wouldn’t wait for a lift back later on and instead left on foot. They said he wouldn’t wait for the bus and walked the wrong way. It would be interesting to hear the variations of what the men told the Police in comparison to what is being said now.

Maybe he was coerced rather than forced and maybe they realised that he was going to be no use to them. Maybe as he sobered up, he realised he might be safer on his own than with the men. Or maybe he really did have the watch and didn't want to wait around to be found out. It's reported that he told his friend that he 'missed the bus' which suggests that he intended to get it (and perhaps walked around to avoid going back to the Airbnb) but presumably missed it because he walked off in the wrong direction and got himself lost. If he didn't realise how far it was to his hotel, then maybe he just decided that the walk would be better than waiting outside for the whole day until the next bus - in the evening, I think? And maybe he fell and tragically died. Maybe, maybe....
ETA I really don't think they would have let him wander off if they had ill intent or had involved him in any dodgy scheme of theirs.

 

[Furore]

It would be interesting to know the registration numbers of the white vehicles at the air bnb see if any matched the one shown in the road near where Jay's phone pinged when a lad was seen getting into or out of the car. This was seen on the live cams. There is probably an innocent explanation of this and many many people have white cars in Spain but simply checking registration plates would have been a quick way to see it there was anything of interest to this sighting. It does seem strange the knock on the door to move the car. I would imagine Qassim had parked in the same place outside the air bnb during his stay then just that morning he happened to be asked to move it.

Tbf wasn’t it sort of 8/9ish Jay went outside in the morning and asked bus times, on a Monday. I can actually imagine a parked car being problematic for neighbours wanting to leave for work etc, whereas parking over the weekend less obstructive. MOO

 

[thinker47]

I really don't think they would have let him wander off if they had ill intent or had involved him in any dodgy scheme of theirs.

ETA apologies for the repeat - rookie mistake.

 

[Dotta]

I really don't think they would have let him wander off if they had ill intent or had involved him in any dodgy scheme of theirs.

Spanish Police stated that
Bnb guys are NOT relevant in British teen's disappearance.

I think I will stick to this.

Until any further notices by appropriate authorities.

PS
I'm not shouting haha
I'm emphasizing

 

[su5ie]

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There's what looks like a camera in the doorway of the Casa, and yet there is no firm evidence Jay went in or left alive, or spoke with Ophelia. Only people's accounts. Agatha Christie would have loved this situation.

Missing Brit took haunting final pic of himself at holiday home before vanishing

The search continues for the missing Brit teen as pictures emerge of the Tenerife holiday home where he stayed with two other British men the night before vanishing

www.mirror.co.uk

Is it a camera or a sensor light

 

[Firstsnow4]

What? I havent heard anything about knocking on some woman's door. I got the idea she was walking about the property when she told him about the bus

Yeah I did find it strange - it defo sounds like different information.

 

[BenjaminJAndersonAlly]

Jay Slater’s mother provides GoFundMe update - latest news

Investigation into Jay Slater’s disappearance in Tenerife continues

www.independent.co.uk

 

[su5ie]

Drug dealer posts video at Airbnb where Jay Slater last seen

EXCLUSIVE: Qassim, 31, was one of the last people to see missing apprentice bricklayer Jay,19, along with another British man who he has refused to identify.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It seems a lot of stuff that was previously posted in various forums online is now entering msm almost like mark Williams Thomas is looking at the posts on social media and either verifying after investigation or stating as true to suit a narrative I had seen this video a couple of days ago but didn't post here as wasn't mainstream news I suppose it does show the area in all its remoteness when he pans the camera outward but other than that It's just a video of ayub on vacation

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

It was reported in MSM that he asked about the bus
bnb's neighbours.
So it is not new info.

I don't think that has been stated in MSM - do you have a link?

There was an account from the neighbour that she held up ten fingers to denote the bus coming at 10am but then later saw Jay walking up the road - all of that having taken place before 09:00

 

[Furore]

BIB ^
Unfortunately there is no one to corroborate that.

Hmm well his ping and calls with two friends in the morning do suggest he left unharmed

 

[JumpingFrog]

Hmm well his ping and calls with two friends in the morning do suggest he left unharmed

Unless there's recordings of the phone calls or video footage of him walking in the location, all this phone evidence is is just verbal accounts or suggestions of where the phone was - it doesn't actually prove Jay was there
Imho

 

[su5ie]

Drug dealer posts video at Airbnb where Jay Slater last seen

EXCLUSIVE: Qassim, 31, was one of the last people to see missing apprentice bricklayer Jay,19, along with another British man who he has refused to identify.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lots of strange things in this conversation firstly the second person is basically being shielded by ayub by statements like friend went straight to bed no words spoken just straight in front door and up to bed then refusing to name him and almost implying jay and guy no2 didn't interact and if Jay went into the guys room to get the charger how does ayub know guy no2 was sleeping I feel ayub is tying him self in knots and how would a friend of Jay's know jay was lying in a ditch ,shouldn't that read could be lying in a ditch maybe the daily mail is sensationalizing with the wording of the statement given by ayub weird

 

[Furore]

I do wonder now if he did scarper with the watch and that with all the disorientation / excess alcohol / dehydration sent him packing off (deliberately) in the wrong direction so the Maili Boys didn’t catch up with him on the road. MOO

However I still find it unlikely they would have killed him over this, being so young, traceable, and it not being their drugs or anything (the watch I mean). If you’re just out of prison I can’t imagine you want a full life sentence over one stolen watch…JMO

 

[Dotta]

"Jay Slater's family demands drones in Tenerife search ​

as dad reveals frustrating 'riddle'.​

Family is waiting for Spanish police
to green-light the use of high-tech gear in the search,
it has been claimed.

Jay's family is aware of how important it is
not to waste any time
and is reportedly 'desperate'
to be able to use drones among other items
to scour the Rural de Teno park area where his phone was last detected.

'They are desperate for permission to be granted
that will allow them to use the specialist equipment they’ve identified'.

'They’ve been speaking to experts
who have suggested items that could help -
things like [radar] tracking gear,
drones
and kit which can help at night-time too'.

Given how wide the search area is,
taking advantage of similar technology could buy the family precious time and boost chances of finding clues leading to Jay."

Jay Slater's family demands drones in Tenerife search | World | News | Express.co.uk

www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Furore]

Lots of strange things in this conversation firstly the second person is basically being shielded by ayub by statements like friend went straight to bed no words spoken just straight in front door and up to bed then refusing to name him and almost implying jay and guy no2 didn't interact and if Jay went into the guys room to get the charger how does ayub know guy no2 was sleeping I feel ayub is tying him self in knots and how would a friend of Jay's know jay was lying in a ditch ,shouldn't that read could be lying in a ditch maybe the daily mail is sensationalizing with the wording of the statement given by ayub weird

I agree the identity of Ayub’s friend is likely less than salubrious but equally I wouldn’t drop my friend into a media frenzy if they didn’t know their identity either. I don’t find it particularly odd that he isn’t telling Mark WT that! MOO

 

[Winterbells]

It seems a lot of stuff that was previously posted in various forums online is now entering msm almost like mark Williams Thomas is looking at the posts on social media and either verifying after investigation or stating as true to suit a narrative I had seen this video a couple of days ago but didn't post here as wasn't mainstream news I suppose it does show the area in all its remoteness when he pans the camera outward but other than that It's just a video of ayub on vacation

The footage of AQ "with two unknown teenagers on the treacherous road leading to Masca dancing on stone bollards by the side of the road" is surely of note? It seems he makes a habit of taking teenagers back to his airbnb in Masca.

Drug dealer posts video at Airbnb where Jay Slater last seen

EXCLUSIVE: Qassim, 31, was one of the last people to see missing apprentice bricklayer Jay,19, along with another British man who he has refused to identify.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Furore]

Lots of strange things in this conversation firstly the second person is basically being shielded by ayub by statements like friend went straight to bed no words spoken just straight in front door and up to bed then refusing to name him and almost implying jay and guy no2 didn't interact and if Jay went into the guys room to get the charger how does ayub know guy no2 was sleeping I feel ayub is tying him self in knots and how would a friend of Jay's know jay was lying in a ditch ,shouldn't that read could be lying in a ditch maybe the daily mail is sensationalizing with the wording of the statement given by ayub weird

I wonder if the friend Ayub refers to is Brad? Or could be Lucy. Both knew he was lost ish and cut by a cactus.

 

[Alyce]

Hmm well his ping and calls with two friends in the morning do suggest he left unharmed

Well, his phone certainly left unharmed

 

[PS8800]

I really don't think they would have let him wander off if they had ill intent or had involved him in any dodgy scheme of theirs.

ETA apologies for the repeat - rookie mistake.

They would if they had not, at that point, realised he'd taken the watch..
JMO

 

[tedtink]

Hmm well his ping and calls with two friends in the morning do suggest he left unharmed.

That's not what I meant.