Spain Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #4

[flysleuthD]

True when first came on the scene it was more underground you are right ..do you think jay might have overdosed if waitress said he was unwell at nightclub

No, the clips I've seen when he falls/is pushed in that club really don't show me anything untoward ... I'd say most of the kids in there will have been under the influence. The only thing that did strike me as odd though is how no one's really dancing or looking to be having that great of a time but just all seem to be watching JS, the atmosphere looked a bit flat, hostile even to the raves I've ever attended but that could just be how these kids roll now. It's hard to tell anything from a 5 second clip though

 

[MollyHarps]

@Tricia can we please leave this thread open overnight many of us in this thread are from the UK/EU time zone it’s very difficult to communicate in the day time when The thread is closed

This thread has died down so much - mine and the majority’s of peoples aims here is to bring Jays body home

None of us IMO want trouble we are all just looking to bring closure to this case

 

[su5ie]

Raves nowadays are very not much "underground", they may be held at disused warehouses and under old train tracks but they're very commercialised and extremely expensive to attend/buy a drink at.

I had noticed waitress stated 3 euros for a glass of water in article do they normally charge for water at these things nowadays I thought it would be free to stop deaths from over heating etc in case young people didn't have the money to buy water

 

[flysleuthD]

I had noticed waitress stated 3 euros for a glass of water in article do they normally charge for water at these things nowadays I thought it would be free to stop deaths from over heating etc in case young people didn't have the money to buy water

Lol...oh yes they certainly charge. Try being off your face in ibiza, was 10 euros for a teeny bottle of water back in the 90s so God knows what they charge now, 3 euros is a bargain!! Although I'd probably not have admitted giving it away for free, poor lass may have repercussions for that act of kindness bless her

 

[su5ie]

No, the clips I've seen when he falls/is pushed in that club really don't show me anything untoward ... I'd say most of the kids in there will have been under the influence. The only thing that did strike me as odd though is how no one's really dancing or looking to be having that great of a time but just all seem to be watching JS, the atmosphere looked a bit flat, hostile even to the raves I've ever attended but that could just be how these kids roll now. It's hard to tell anything from a 5 second clip though

Maybe because a lot of people view things through their camera lens now instead of just enjoying the moment imo there was clips of jay and his friends dancing I think the picture that really strikes me is when jay is on his own in the club and he doesn't look right so vulnerable looking too Jay Slater was so unwell at rave I had to give him water, says waitress
It's in this article

 

[LadyL]

"He’s not stupid, in my mind he’s not going to go off a main path and down a sheer drop or cliffs unless he’s been forced down by someone who could have been following him."

This is a hard statement for me. He went with someone he really didn't know to a place hours away from where he was staying and without any people he really knew. That's not exactly a great choice. If he could make that kind of choice, anything else is open to possibility. So sure, in my mind he could have chosen what he thought was a shorter route and ended up on a goat trail and gotten lost. Not hard if your are a person who is in an unfamiliar place and does not know orienteering. And it's not a slam. Not everyone thinks the world is out to get them and plans for option Z happening. But when you end up with option Z and you don't have a plan, it can be a problem.

just one thing - it wasn't 'hours away' - it was 45 minutes by car

 

[Ghostwheel]

just one thing - it wasn't 'hours away' - it was 45 minutes by car

It doesn't matter how far it is by car if you don' t have one to drive. He chose to walk the many hours back. Point is still the same.

 

[LadyL]

It doesn't matter how far it is by car if you don' t have one to drive. He chose to walk the many hours back. Point is still the same.

it's important to be accurate

 

[Ghostwheel]

it's important to be accurate

I was accurate. He was hours away by foot, which is how he was traveling when he went missing. I didn't say he was driven hours away. I said he WAS hours away. Which he was.

 

[RLL67]

A minor point when it comes to the stolen watch most people are thinking in terms of it been taken off the owners wrist using skill/subterfuge etc, but someone scooping it off the floor would still constitute a theft and given that there's no indication that Jay or either of the apartment two are known to be watch thieves, this seems a more likely scenario to me.

 

[Tricia]

Closed for the night. Thread will reopen in the morning.

 

[Knitty]

Thread is open.

 

[Curiousraccoon]

New article with some interesting content including complete speculation about topics such as:

- Could have Jay been taken on the Maruba boat or some other boat (voluntarily or not)?
- Could Jay hide and survive in the caves (perhaps with someone’s help)?

Also the article claims that:
"Jay's phone was found in Playa Juan Lopez, a very secluded beach" - Is this a typo? What do they mean found? I'm assuming this is an error....

FRED KELLY puts the most intriguing Jay Slater theory yet to the test

At 600 metres high, it's easy to see why the coastal cliffs of Tenerife are known as 'the Wall of Hell'. These sheer basalt rock faces, which border the protected Rural de Teno park, are formidable.

www.dailymail.co.uk

ETA - No, I myself don't currently believe any of the above.

 

[Coconutty]

I honestly think the boat theory is the most unlikely one yet, and it’s got a lot of competition for crackpot theories.

So many rumours that his phone was found big nothing official about that at all. I’m not surprised The Sun are reporting it as fact though.

 

[jackal67]

That video is presumed to be on another day than the day Jay went missing and there is not known any connection between those additional people on the video and Jay

So does that mean Ayub has rented this Airbnb on a previous occasion and invited other young lads up there?

 

[jackal67]

The papers must have permission to show the faces of the young lads otherwise it leaves DM open to litigation are they doing gang signs on the wall

Their faces have been shown on SM in this pic

 

[jackal67]

"Certain actions" can be a broad range of things. Purely hypothetical - getting changed into some other clothes, sharing his location with friends, grabbing some defence tool - anything. Very interesting comment from MWT, but we can't possibly guess what he is referring to imo.

Does anyone believe all this stuff MWT is posting> I actually don't . A lot of it seems like all the random stuff posted on SM FB etc and he is reading it and posting it as if it is his own information. MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

Does anyone believe all this stuff MWT is posting> I actually don't . A lot of it seems like all the random stuff posted on SM FB etc and he is reading it and posting it as if it is his own information. MOO

It seems like a lot of very strange rumour, to me.

The whole thing with the watch has seemed bogus from the start, to me, and everything else seems to spread out from that to support it.

I still think this is a case of a kid who took on a walk he wasn't capable of in dangerous conditions.

MOO

 

[dibbledabble]

Who's the 2nd guy? yall keep mentioning the same person. Some people are drawing similar parallels with the Bristol case and link to drugs trade

 

[worth2]

So does that mean Ayub has rented this Airbnb on a previous occasion and invited other young lads up there?

either that or another place in the Masca area presumably. Or it’s just from the same weekend. Either way I find it interesting given that it’s far away from tourist resorts and he is quite a bit older, and because the reason given for Jay going back there was “he had nowhere else to go”