Jaycee's Bio dad

[songline]

I always find it interesting when an alleged bio dad says that he would have seen his kid but the mother wouldn't let him. Then with a little probing you find out that paternity was never established. A paternity test can be requested by a prospective father. But if that test is positive they will usually be required to pay child support. That is why it is usually the mothers who end up requesting the test. If the mother doesn't request the test then the father doesn't, usually because they don't want to pay the support.
So the idea that it might have been because of the mother really doesn't apply here. He had the right to become her legal father and didn't take the steps to obtain it. Period. If he had established paternity and the mother still wouldn't let him see her, then he would have had a right to complain. But he didn't do that did he?

He may have changed at some point. But he had had 11 years to request the test and didn't. So 11 years go by and no test, but she becomes a hot media story and suddenly it is imperative that the test gets done immediately! No time to take care of the legal issues of declaring that she actually had daughters of her own that didn't legally exist. No time to get counseling to deal with the issues of her captivity. No time to get used to being an adult in a very different world than she was used to living in. No time to deal with the legal issues and preparation for prosecuting the G's. No time to think about supporting herself and her children, where they will live and all those other pesky details.
NO it is imperative that she meets that long lost father, you know the one who didn't bother with becoming her father.
And let's not give her any choice in the matter. She is over 18 now and should have the legal right to make her own choices. But when she was with the G's, she didn't have a choice so she should be used to someone else making her choices for her. Why not the alleged bio dad? So no chance to catch her breath or make any choices on her own. (Sarcasm intended)
And some call this kindness????
I don't know if alleged bio dad has the legal right to even take this to court. Maybe he does. But if he does, it is supposed to be in the best interest of the child. Namely the 29 year old child named Jaycee. The court could order the paternity test. But as an adult it still won't order visitation for her. And it could and should order back child support for Jaycee. That should help to establish an income for Jaycee and her children and help her to get a new start in life.

mysteriew :blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:
I love a mind that is attached to a heart. :beats:

I Made bold a few (many) really important points.

Out of JC's Bio dad's mouth: ...Jaycee's mom got in touch with him to tell him she was pregnant,
then he never heard from her again...

He never said he tried to call her, or look for her. He never said she would not let him see her.
You are right 11 years go by and nothing. SO NOW WHAT???? JC touched the hearts of strangers.
He just wants a front row seat for his view of what the entire world wants to know? he is curious.

I call that a voyeur of the worst kind. He is about me,me, me. :crazy:

Actually it is sad to see how many stick up for him...after seeing his gestures.
It may be a sign of how many people really want or wish that they were Daddy's little girl.
And they find crumbs to be gestures. How sad.

A crumb is a crumb. And a pure gesture is a good dded done discreetly.
It just is and it need no interpretation.

MY Dear God - I am so grateful for all that I have always had. Thank you. :beats:
RIP my beautiful Dad - You were pure, and I was blessed. :beats:

 

[RJA00]

And it could and should order back child support for Jaycee. That should help to establish an income for Jaycee and her children and help her to get a new start in life.

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I know a girl that got awarded her child support from her dad after she turned of age, but I think the rules were that the mother had to at least try to collect it before they turn 18 . my step son mentioned that one time after he turned 18 about his mother, the rules did not apply to him because my husband never asked for child support

 

[mysteriew]

mysteriew :blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:
I love a mind that is attached to a heart. :beats: :beats: :beats:

I Made bold a few (many) really important points.

Out of his mouth...Jaycee's mom got in touch with him to tell him she was pregnant, then he never heard from her again...

He never said he tried to call her, or look for her.
He never said she would not let him see her.
You are right 11 years go by and nothing.
SO NOW WHAT????
JC touched the hearts of strangers throughout the entire world.
He just wants a front row seat for his view of what the entire world wants to know? he is curious. :crazy:

I call that a voyeur of the worst kind.
He is about me,me, me. :crazy:

Thank you sweetie.

If you have read up in the Caylee thread you probably read about things like licensing fees and payments for images. What isn't in the media right now? Images of Jaycee. More images of the girls. I wonder how much those would go for? How about images of Jaycee meeting the father/siblings she never had the chance to meet? Images of the living area that Jaycee is now residing in to compare with her previous accomadations?

 

[JBean]

Those of you getting personal on this thread need to stop please.
The topic is not about each other but the possible bio father trying to meet Jaycee.
Anyone that attacks personally on this thread will get a TO. If you have anything that should be edited please take care of it.
thanks.

ETA: the placement of this post is random so it has no bearing on anything.

any posts that have a poster as the topic should be edited or removed. this is about Jaycee and her possible bio dad not each other.
If you cannot refrain from getting personal or if this topic is too emotional for you take a break.

 

[Tizzle]

mysteriew :blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:
I love a mind that is attached to a heart. :beats: :beats: :beats:

I Made bold a few (many) really important points.

Out of his mouth...Jaycee's mom got in touch with him to tell him she was pregnant, then he never heard from her again...

He never said he tried to call her, or look for her.
He never said she would not let him see her.
You are right 11 years go by and nothing.
SO NOW WHAT????
JC touched the hearts of strangers throughout the entire world.
He just wants a front row seat for his view of what the entire world wants to know? he is curious. :crazy:

I call that a voyeur of the worst kind.
He is about me,me, me. :crazy:

She only called him once? Hmmmmm. Never heard from her again after one phone call? He did state he tried to reach her but was unsuccessful. Maybe Terry was in a relationship with someone else at the time and didn't want them to find out? Maybe he's not revealing all the details of their affair for a reason? Maybe to save her embarrassment? Maybe he's not such a crumb since a crumb would go into detail about any connection to Jaycee, his only connection to her is a months long fling with her mom, wouldn't a crumb be all over telling all the dirty details of the love affair that produced Jaycee Lee Dugard? In a high profile case such as this, you would have to practically be in a coma to not want a "TOP DOG LAWYER" as you call her. Do you have any idea what it's like to be hounded by the media? Do you have any idea how scary that would be without a renowned legal team? He didn't lawyer up because he's a "crumb", as you refer to him, he did it out of necessity. You can rant but you still have no hard evidence to back up what you're saying.

 

[songline]

She only called him once? Hmmmmm. Never heard from her again after one phone call? He did state he tried to reach her but was unsuccessful. Maybe Terry was in a relationship with someone else at the time and didn't want them to find out? Maybe he's not revealing all the details of their affair for a reason? Maybe to save her embarrassment? Maybe he's not such a crumb since a crumb would go into detail about any connection to Jaycee, his only connection to her is a months long fling with her mom, wouldn't a crumb be all over telling all the dirty details of the love affair that produced Jaycee Lee Dugard? In a high profile case such as this, you would have to practically be in a coma to not want a "TOP DOG LAWYER" as you call her. Do you have any idea what it's like to be hounded by the media? Do you have any idea how scary that would be without a renowned legal team? He didn't lawyer up because he's a "crumb", as you refer to him, he did it out of necessity. You can rant but you still have no hard evidence to back up what you're saying.

OH he did say it was a one month affair and she was a nice girl.
Maybe there is no dirty laundry or he would be happy to air it.

THE REASON he needs a lawyer now, now, now is???
When is TIME< TIME< TIME, & DISCRESSION not a good virtue.....?
what media hounded him, he is a star?
he should have kept a low profile, and thats all she wrote.

I think later, later, later, would have been considerate.
YOU DONT GO ON TV and then say the media hounded him,,,,no, no, no.....
You sure do not need a top dog lawyer, And yes I wrote to her she is a media ho.

 

[mysteriew]

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I know a girl that got awarded her child support from her dad after she turned of age, but I think the rules were that the mother had to at least try to collect it before they turn 18 . my step son mentioned that one time after he turned 18 about his mother, the rules did not apply to him because my husband never asked for child support

The laws on that differ from state to state. And since Jaycee was in captivity from the age of 11 to the current time the court might be willing to make some exceptions. Since she didn't have the opportunity from the age of 11 on. And since the father is so eager that he is willing to go against his adult daughter's best interests.

 

[songline]

Thank you sweetie.

But I think you are still missing the big picture. If you have read up in the Caylee thread you probably read about things like licensing fees and payments for images. What isn't in the media right now? Images of Jaycee. More images of the girls. I wonder how much those would go for? How about images of Jaycee meeting the father/siblings she never had the chance to meet? Images of the living area that Jaycee is now residing in to compare with her previous accomadations?

Packing to leave town...Ther would have been ample time for everything.
There will not be any personal images for a long time.
His timing is sick.
got to go.

 

[songline]

any posts that have a poster as the topic should be edited or removed. this is about Jaycee and her possible bio dad not each other.
If you cannot refrain from getting personal or if this topic is too emotional for you take a break.

Packing to leave town...Please delete whatever you see fit.
Thanks :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Going to the beach for a week and a spa next weekend.
Bye

 

[VespaElf]

Sorry but the timing of this leaves a bad taste in my mouth!
I admire Gloria's chutzpah (even when I dont agree with her)but this is just tacky!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JBean]

Packing to leave town...Please delete whatever you see fit.
Thanks :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Going to the beach for a week and a spa next weekend.
Bye

Have a nice trip songline.
But if you have a post that needs removal or editing please don't leave it for us. thanks lady and have a fabulous time! I am envious.

 

[Tizzle]

OH he did say it was a one month affair and she was a nice girl.
Maybe there is no dirty laundry or he would be happy to air it.

THE REASON he needs a lawyer now, now, now is???
when TIME< TIME< TIME, & DISCRESSION is not a good virtue.....
what media hounded him, he is a star? he should have kept a low profile, and thats all she wrote.
I think later, later, later, would have been considerate.
YOU DONT GO IN TV and then say the media hounded him,,,,no, no, no.....
You sure do not need a top dog. And yes I wrote to her she is a media ho.

He was approached by the media to begin with. He didn't seek them out. And no he isn't a star, but he has been thrust into the spotlight as a result of his connection to Jaycee. I'm sure he wasn't approached by one media outlet and then left alone. That isn't how the paparazzi works. They hound any angle of every story, period.
The man is a United States Soldier/Vietnam War Veteran with a PURPLE HEART. Usually "crumbs" don't receive those. I thank him for his service and feel blessed that this hero was able to survive such an horrendous war in order to conceive another hero.

Have you watched to full Slayton Press Conference? Here ya go...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHql-2tv9vI"]YouTube - Jaycee Dugard Kidnapping, Rape Case[/ame]

 

[Tizzle]

With the introduction of DNA testing in the late 1970s and 1980s, scientists saw the powerful tool this process was for identification and determination of biological relationships.
http://www.dnacenter.com/science-technology/dna-history.html

And even before DNA testing became commonplace there was a legal process for legitimizing children. He could have done it. He didn't.

Highly expensive and rarely used, as a result of cost. They aren't the Hilton's or Rockefeller's, after all.

 

[JBean]

He was approached by the media to begin with. He didn't seek them out. And no he isn't a star, but he has been thrust into the spotlight as a result of his connection to Jaycee. I'm sure he wasn't approached by one media outlet and then left alone. That isn't how the paparazzi works. They hound any angle of every story, period.
The man is a United States Soldier/Vietnam War Veteran with a PURPLE HEART. Usually "crumbs" don't receive those. I thank him for his service and feel blessed that this hero was able to survive such an horrendous war in order to conceive another hero.

Have you watched to full Slayton Press Conference? Here ya go...

YouTube - Jaycee Dugard Kidnapping, Rape Case

I have no opinion on this whole Slayton situation yet. But he was very very specific on an interview that I can link if you like, that he approached Glo and it was not the other way around. He went out of his way to make that very clear. I know she is not media, but she bases her practice almost entirely on media attention and high profile cases. So contacting Glo IS contacting the media.
ETA: As an aside, in that same interview which I will go get in a minute, he contradicted himself.
At one point he said he "never knew Jaycee existed". then when pressed on it, he said that someone did mention to him a month after her birth that Terry had had a baby and she looked just like him.
He also said that he tried contacting Terry once, but after he moved away to another area it was "out of sight out of mind"

http://www.kfiam640.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/playerccas.html?mps=kfigenericskin.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/LOSANGELES-CA/KFI-AM/KS0924097.mp3?CPROG=PCAST%3FCCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.kfiam640.com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM&TRACK=

 

[Tizzle]

mysteriew :blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:
I love a mind that is attached to a heart. :beats:

I Made bold a few (many) really important points.

Out of JC's Bio dad's mouth: ...Jaycee's mom got in touch with him to tell him she was pregnant,
then he never heard from her again...

He never said he tried to call her, or look for her. He never said she would not let him see her.
You are right 11 years go by and nothing. SO NOW WHAT???? JC touched the hearts of strangers.
He just wants a front row seat for his view of what the entire world wants to know? he is curious.

I call that a voyeur of the worst kind. He is about me,me, me. :crazy:

Actually it is sad to see how many stick up for him...after seeing his gestures.
It may be a sign of how many people really want or wish that they were Daddy's little girl.
And they find crumbs to be gestures. How sad.

A crumb is a crumb. And a pure gesture is a good dded done discreetly.
It just is and it need no interpretation.

MY Dear God - I am so grateful for all that I have always had. Thank you. :beats:
RIP my beautiful Dad - You were pure, and I was blessed. :beats:

BBM
I was Daddy's Girl. RIP my beautiful Dad, too.:crazy: (Feels like that was directed at me.) Unless you're referring to Jaycee? Because, I'd almost bet my right arm that she wished she was given the chance to be a Daddy's Girl when she was a child. Probably longed for knowledge of him. I, for one, hope that she is relishing in the joy of knowing that he does love her, after wondering about him on some level for the past 30 or so years. I pray for anything that will comfort her in any possible way.

 

[Tizzle]

I have no opinion on this whole Slayton situation yet. But he was very very specific on an interview that I can link if you like, that he approached Glo and it was not the other way around. He went out of his way to make that very clear. I know she is not media, but she bases her practice almost entirely on media attention and high profile cases. So contacting Glo IS contacting the media.
ETA: As an aside, in that same interview which I will go get in a minute, he contradicted himself.
At one point he said he "never knew Jaycee existed". then when pressed on it, he said that someone did mention to him a month after her birth that Terry had had a baby and she looked just like him.
He also said that he tried contacting Terry once, but after he moved away to another area it was "out of sight out of mind"

http://www.kfiam640.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/playerccas.html?mps=kfigenericskin.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/LOSANGELES-CA/KFI-AM/KS0924097.mp3?CPROG=PCAST%3FCCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.kfiam640.com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM&TRACK=

I was talking about another media outlet that contacted him to begin with. After the initial story on him broke, I'm fairly confident in thinking that he was hounded thereafter. And lets not condemn him just yet for not wanting to readily admit that he was a deadbeat from jumpstreet. People change and living with past mistakes and regrets will change a person quick. Most real men would and should have a little trouble admitting that they weren't a present party in the life of the child they produced.
Anyway, here's the link to the article where it's clearly stated he was approached by the media first.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...ck-animal-who-took-my-jaycee-115875-21643636/

BTW, thanks for the Glo link, I hadn't seen anything clarifying who approached who. However, I still don't damn him for seeking an extremely effective legal team, considering the numerous media organizations that are, I'm sure, hounding him, even though he really has nothing to tell. Their intrusive behavior can be a little scary.

 

[flourish]

OH he did say it was a one month affair and she was a nice girl.
Maybe there is no dirty laundry or he would be happy to air it.

THE REASON he needs a lawyer now, now, now is???
when TIME< TIME< TIME, & DISCRESSION is not a good virtue.....
what media hounded him, he is a star? he should have kept a low profile, and thats all she wrote.
I think later, later, later, would have been considerate.
YOU DONT GO IN TV and then say the media hounded him,,,,no, no, no.....
You sure do not need a top dog. And yes I wrote to her she is a media ho.

bbm
Do you have a quote or evidence that if there were dirty laundry that he'd "be happy to air it?" How were able to ascertain what he'd want to do or not want to do?

 

[JBean]

I was talking about another media outlet that contacted him to begin with. After the initial story on him broke, I'm fairly confident in thinking that he was hounded thereafter. And lets not condemn him just yet for not wanting to readily admit that he was a deadbeat from jumpstreet. People change and living with past mistakes and regrets will change a person quick. Most real men would and should have a little trouble admitting that they weren't a present party in the life of the child they produced.
Anyway, here's the link to the article where it's clearly stated he was approached by the media first.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...ck-animal-who-took-my-jaycee-115875-21643636/

BTW, thanks for the Glo link, I hadn't seen anything clarifying who approached who. However, I still don't damn him for seeking an extremely effective legal team, considering the numerous media organizations that are, I'm sure, hounding him, even though he really has nothing to tell. Their intrusive behavior can be a little scary.

I am not damning him at all. I just get all the information straight and then sort through it. I don't have enough info to make a determination yet.

 

[songline]

The laws on that differ from state to state. And since Jaycee was in captivity from the age of 11 to the current time the court might be willing to make some exceptions. Since she didn't have the opportunity from the age of 11 on. And since the father is so eager that he is willing to go against his adult daughter's best interests.

So willing hmmmm. :sick:

I wonder what JC's Mom is thinking, but we will probably never know.
She could speak through her attorney with out revealing herself,
but Somehow I think she far more sensible then he is.
And JC is not a minor child, when she is deprogrammed SHE may be or may not be willing.
I can not summon my grown kids to do anything at all. they are over 18.

 

[Tizzle]

I am not damning him at all. I just get all the information straight and then sort through it. I don't have enough info to make a determination yet.

Yes! Exactly! Thank you!:clap::clap:
That's what I'm trying to say. I feel sad when someone is judged so harshly when no facts are even available. I'm simply stating that he deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt until there is hard evidence that he deserves otherwise. I didn't always make the best decisions 2 decades ago, and I'm surely thankful I'm not still being condemned for them. I feel he deserves the same respect as the rest of us do. If there were no mistakes, there would be no reason for forgiveness. I have compassion for all people, and am thankful for all that my mistakes have taught me. Maybe, Mr. Slayton feels the same?:angel: