nursebeeme
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what is the longest that a defendant has ever been on the stand???? this is crazy
Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #24 *may contain graphic and adult content*
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oceanblueeyes
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He should tell her right off the bat that he offers his sympathy because every person she has ever met in her entire life she claims abused her. :eyeroll:
Wow talk about the blame game. Its always someone else's fault.
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How convenient for the murderess that she has made sure her victim is voiceless.
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honestly I can see a seriously abused woman who's so beaten down and tortured that she does keep going back to that person out of her dysfunction.This does happen.
BUT....that does NOT equate planning for weeks and EXECUTING a heinous homicide with EXTREME VIOLENCE and covering it up and lying and lying and lying and letting that man lay there decomposing for FIVE DAYS. None of that is even in the ballpark. :furious:
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I know abuse victims and I have seen them go back and forth. But there's nothing in this case that says the victim was abusive except this witness. It's all hear-say as far as I'm concerned.
besides, when I've seen abuse victims go back and forth, even from state to state, they're going back to their abuser at their own home. She didn't live in Arizona previously, she even said she'd never been there. Yet she moved to Arizona after this ALLEGED occasional abuse?
Not buying it.
She's NOT doing any favors to REAL abuse victims.
JMHO
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5 mins if that
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I read that he is an internist and certified addiction medicine specialist. Not a specialist in the human psyche.
BTW, did you know that psychopaths are overrepresented in psychiatry?
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She recalled it the very moment Lisa testified. JMO
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I know, nothing like yesterday!
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I was @a Super Saturday . . . . we were texting back and forth while I was listening to Speakers -
Ihadn't received a text or picture message on that phone before. . . .. i had toopen another folder . . . I shut my flip phone very quickly
He asked me to recriprocate . . . with pictures
I didn't do it that day - I was at a resteraunt . . . Iknew he wanted me to . . . .but I was a little . . . . .
he had been requesting photos for awhile .. .
requesting photos of naked pictures of JA
up to the point in time that you received pictures of his erection - you had not sent him photos
Did you then feel a level of guilt for not recriprocating?
Yes . . . he seemed very disappointed.
Baptism took place 11/26/06 -
Mr. Freeman told about the process . . .
What did you go thru leading up to it . . . a month or year before that you decided to join the Mormon faith . . ..
Series of experiences - the missionary's asked me to church . . . something a speaker said and I had not heard in other churches . . . it was an acceptance and tolerant of all faiths in the world . .
what other experieces?
TA and I talked a lot about the Mormon faith - things I was not comfortable with asking the missionary's two 20 year old guys
Emphasis they place on marriage and children and family
I couldn't imagine the no coffee rule . . . the no alcohol rule wasn't a problem- I wasn't really drinker
Wanted to be baptised - a process went thru with the church . . . the Missionary's finally asked if I was ready to be baptizd . .. an interview before you get baptized - to make sure you are ready to be . . . .close to my baptism date
don't remember exact question - belief in Jesus Christ, voracity of book of mormon, Joseph Smith belief, Word of Wisdom obey . . . obey the law of Chastity -
Your understanding of Law of Chastity was abstaining from penile/vaginal intercourse
yes
you believed you were in line theLaw of Chasity -
Yes based on what TA told me
I wasn't approved right away because Darryl still lived in the house . . . he was a member of famliy and that was frowned upon
Separate bedrooms . . . . but baptism scheduled for the 26th . . .
get this approval . . . roughly a week . .. . . .aware of impending baptism when TA came to JA's home . . . .Travis baptised me . . . .
Ummm well , when I decided I was going to get baptised . . . in November TA had been more distant . . . . I asked Elder Jensen . . . second to TA he had taught me the most about the Mormon church . . . he didn't accept it .. . don't recall exactly - he encouraged me to find . . . I remember the essense- not one of the Missionary's but someone else to baptise.
Any close relationship with other members in the church . . . I didn't really know anyone well - in the area there was a small branchand i didn't hang out with . . . Travis was the only person I could think of . . . . the only one I wanted. . . . .he asked me first if he could . . .TA was happy to learn wanted to be baptised . . . . asked himto baptise . . . in November - happened over the phone.
Baptism tookplace in PalmDesert . . . .
A few people in the Business came out (PPL) . . . didn't invite family - they lived 11 or 12 hrs away . . . . if they could teleport there tey would be there- family expressed misgivings about joining the Mormon church - aunts, parents, siblings and friends. . . .
everone in your immediate circle discouraged you from joining the church?
yes
Did you invite Mr. Brewer to attend?
yes
Did he attend?
no
How did you feel that day . .
a little nervous - didn't know what would happen - but I was excited
chairs set up - small podium . . . .
sang hymns, talks were given . . . . Travis was in the font .. . a big bathtub . . .
before entering the font I changed into an all white jumpsuit - steps going into the font . . . Travis held his hand up and made some kind of invocation,
I was dipped into the water and then brought back up . . . very peaceful feeling. . .
I went back to enter ladies area to change . . . Skye Hughes came to check on me . . . went back to main area - just talking . . .. dispursing after Igot out of the water
Got back home - Idrove - Travis came with me.
Got back to the house - his car parked there - went inside - we hugged . . . . . words were exchanged . . . began to kiss - things got intimate again . . . .
Wasn't what I was thinking on that Spiritual day . . . not how it ultimately happened .
we were in my bedroom - standing next to the bed ... . .in church clothes -kissing more passionate , he spun me around - bent me over the bed .. . (looking down attempting to cry?)
Iwas face down , his hands were wandering , he lifted my skirt, pulld down my underwear - presing against me . . . he had an erection . . . . he pulld downhis pants . . . he also . . .? I didn't see
He had anal sex with me . .
Thi wasn't something that you were expecting to happen?
no not that night
Is this something you wanted to have happen?
Cant' say wanted to . .. but Ididn't stop him
When he entered you . . . did you tell him no?
no
Was it pleasurable for you
At that time it was painful - I probbly would have let him continue but it was too painful
he had been wanting that for awhile - I trusted him- . . . . let him have his agenda . . .not several minutes but it went on for few . . .
reason told him to stop was the pain = not the lack of interest . . . the pain I had to have him stop - otherwise I probably would have continued . . . .
After he stopped - he finished by ejaculating on my back or somewhere on me - thenwe finished . . . we parted ways , we kissed and embraced . .. .
After ths encounter on this spiritual day . . .
I felt like used piece of toilet paper . . . I didn't continue feeling that way just shortly thereafter . ..
In late November 2006 . . .after baptism . . . .does TA stay in Palm Desert?
He drove back to Mesa to my knowledge . . .
(wipes nose w/kleenex)
can't remember if that night or next night spoke w/TA. . . . subject of anal sex come up in the conversation?
He wrote me a letter about it - we didn't discuss it on the phone - we had in the past.
I kind of just stayed stop, stop, stop . . . . I think he knew it was . . . . I didn't tell him it was not pleasurable - it would not have made him feel very good - I was dealing with that (feeling)
talking t him on a near nightly basis.
Phone calls getting progressively later and later - he almost calling me before 11pm - usually midnight sometimes as late as 3 am . . .
these talks - spiritual nature, personal, and sexual nature . .. pattern persist in November and December - new subject matters were incorporated re: our futures - same kind f things . . .
did that future related to relationship prospects between TA and JA . . .prior to 11/26/06 were you and TA boyfriend an girlfriend . . . we didn't term it that - we became exclusive on 2/2/2007 . . . .a few months later after baptism date
In public with TA prior to 11/26 did not act as boyfriend and girlfriend . . . what about trip to Aronburg - inside the motel and truckstop - he grabbed my butt there - he wasn't too affctionate @ Sizzler - but h was inside the motel room
As you were having the beginning of a sexual relationship - encounters - were you under the impression this wsa to be kept a secret?
I got that impression - from different clues andthings his friends said . ..
vow of chastity - was TA adhering to it? I believed he was . . by definition we were adhering to it . . . .
there was some reason to not tell people -
I don't talk about my sex life . . . . I didn't reveal anything to him about Darryl - in the beginning he joked about it but nothing was said about sex life
Come to visit him in Mesa - JA had never been to Arizona before
Friday following Sunday baptism - @ his house in Mesa . . . . A super Saturday was special speaker flying in to Phoenix - people were caravaning together . . .
Event in Mesa? no Phoenix. . . .carpooled with people from California . . . we went to TA house friday night -the event was Sat morning . . . . Iwent with his friendsand people in the company - bunch people coming from out of state to his house - tocrash there. . .
what were sleeping arrangements at his house?
to be determined . . ..
TA give indications . . . .3 day weekend - did he want to have sexual? no just the opposite - he told me he didn't
wind up having a sexual encounter? he joked about me giving him oral sex . . . . but his ex girlfriend Deanna was there . . . . .he expressed Deanna would be jeaous? no
Misgivings about 2 of you . . . felt he needed to warn me . . ..
Recess @ this time
Ihadn't received a text or picture message on that phone before. . . .. i had toopen another folder . . . I shut my flip phone very quickly
He asked me to recriprocate . . . with pictures
I didn't do it that day - I was at a resteraunt . . . Iknew he wanted me to . . . .but I was a little . . . . .
he had been requesting photos for awhile .. .
requesting photos of naked pictures of JA
up to the point in time that you received pictures of his erection - you had not sent him photos
Did you then feel a level of guilt for not recriprocating?
Yes . . . he seemed very disappointed.
Baptism took place 11/26/06 -
Mr. Freeman told about the process . . .
What did you go thru leading up to it . . . a month or year before that you decided to join the Mormon faith . . ..
Series of experiences - the missionary's asked me to church . . . something a speaker said and I had not heard in other churches . . . it was an acceptance and tolerant of all faiths in the world . .
what other experieces?
TA and I talked a lot about the Mormon faith - things I was not comfortable with asking the missionary's two 20 year old guys
Emphasis they place on marriage and children and family
I couldn't imagine the no coffee rule . . . the no alcohol rule wasn't a problem- I wasn't really drinker
Wanted to be baptised - a process went thru with the church . . . the Missionary's finally asked if I was ready to be baptizd . .. an interview before you get baptized - to make sure you are ready to be . . . .close to my baptism date
don't remember exact question - belief in Jesus Christ, voracity of book of mormon, Joseph Smith belief, Word of Wisdom obey . . . obey the law of Chastity -
Your understanding of Law of Chastity was abstaining from penile/vaginal intercourse
yes
you believed you were in line theLaw of Chasity -
Yes based on what TA told me
I wasn't approved right away because Darryl still lived in the house . . . he was a member of famliy and that was frowned upon
Separate bedrooms . . . . but baptism scheduled for the 26th . . .
get this approval . . . roughly a week . .. . . .aware of impending baptism when TA came to JA's home . . . .Travis baptised me . . . .
Ummm well , when I decided I was going to get baptised . . . in November TA had been more distant . . . . I asked Elder Jensen . . . second to TA he had taught me the most about the Mormon church . . . he didn't accept it .. . don't recall exactly - he encouraged me to find . . . I remember the essense- not one of the Missionary's but someone else to baptise.
Any close relationship with other members in the church . . . I didn't really know anyone well - in the area there was a small branchand i didn't hang out with . . . Travis was the only person I could think of . . . . the only one I wanted. . . . .he asked me first if he could . . .TA was happy to learn wanted to be baptised . . . . asked himto baptise . . . in November - happened over the phone.
Baptism tookplace in PalmDesert . . . .
A few people in the Business came out (PPL) . . . didn't invite family - they lived 11 or 12 hrs away . . . . if they could teleport there tey would be there- family expressed misgivings about joining the Mormon church - aunts, parents, siblings and friends. . . .
everone in your immediate circle discouraged you from joining the church?
yes
Did you invite Mr. Brewer to attend?
yes
Did he attend?
no
How did you feel that day . .
a little nervous - didn't know what would happen - but I was excited
chairs set up - small podium . . . .
sang hymns, talks were given . . . . Travis was in the font .. . a big bathtub . . .
before entering the font I changed into an all white jumpsuit - steps going into the font . . . Travis held his hand up and made some kind of invocation,
I was dipped into the water and then brought back up . . . very peaceful feeling. . .
I went back to enter ladies area to change . . . Skye Hughes came to check on me . . . went back to main area - just talking . . .. dispursing after Igot out of the water
Got back home - Idrove - Travis came with me.
Got back to the house - his car parked there - went inside - we hugged . . . . . words were exchanged . . . began to kiss - things got intimate again . . . .
Wasn't what I was thinking on that Spiritual day . . . not how it ultimately happened .
we were in my bedroom - standing next to the bed ... . .in church clothes -kissing more passionate , he spun me around - bent me over the bed .. . (looking down attempting to cry?)
Iwas face down , his hands were wandering , he lifted my skirt, pulld down my underwear - presing against me . . . he had an erection . . . . he pulld downhis pants . . . he also . . .? I didn't see
He had anal sex with me . .
Thi wasn't something that you were expecting to happen?
no not that night
Is this something you wanted to have happen?
Cant' say wanted to . .. but Ididn't stop him
When he entered you . . . did you tell him no?
no
Was it pleasurable for you
At that time it was painful - I probbly would have let him continue but it was too painful
he had been wanting that for awhile - I trusted him- . . . . let him have his agenda . . .not several minutes but it went on for few . . .
reason told him to stop was the pain = not the lack of interest . . . the pain I had to have him stop - otherwise I probably would have continued . . . .
After he stopped - he finished by ejaculating on my back or somewhere on me - thenwe finished . . . we parted ways , we kissed and embraced . .. .
After ths encounter on this spiritual day . . .
I felt like used piece of toilet paper . . . I didn't continue feeling that way just shortly thereafter . ..
In late November 2006 . . .after baptism . . . .does TA stay in Palm Desert?
He drove back to Mesa to my knowledge . . .
(wipes nose w/kleenex)
can't remember if that night or next night spoke w/TA. . . . subject of anal sex come up in the conversation?
He wrote me a letter about it - we didn't discuss it on the phone - we had in the past.
I kind of just stayed stop, stop, stop . . . . I think he knew it was . . . . I didn't tell him it was not pleasurable - it would not have made him feel very good - I was dealing with that (feeling)
talking t him on a near nightly basis.
Phone calls getting progressively later and later - he almost calling me before 11pm - usually midnight sometimes as late as 3 am . . .
these talks - spiritual nature, personal, and sexual nature . .. pattern persist in November and December - new subject matters were incorporated re: our futures - same kind f things . . .
did that future related to relationship prospects between TA and JA . . .prior to 11/26/06 were you and TA boyfriend an girlfriend . . . we didn't term it that - we became exclusive on 2/2/2007 . . . .a few months later after baptism date
In public with TA prior to 11/26 did not act as boyfriend and girlfriend . . . what about trip to Aronburg - inside the motel and truckstop - he grabbed my butt there - he wasn't too affctionate @ Sizzler - but h was inside the motel room
As you were having the beginning of a sexual relationship - encounters - were you under the impression this wsa to be kept a secret?
I got that impression - from different clues andthings his friends said . ..
vow of chastity - was TA adhering to it? I believed he was . . by definition we were adhering to it . . . .
there was some reason to not tell people -
I don't talk about my sex life . . . . I didn't reveal anything to him about Darryl - in the beginning he joked about it but nothing was said about sex life
Come to visit him in Mesa - JA had never been to Arizona before
Friday following Sunday baptism - @ his house in Mesa . . . . A super Saturday was special speaker flying in to Phoenix - people were caravaning together . . .
Event in Mesa? no Phoenix. . . .carpooled with people from California . . . we went to TA house friday night -the event was Sat morning . . . . Iwent with his friendsand people in the company - bunch people coming from out of state to his house - tocrash there. . .
what were sleeping arrangements at his house?
to be determined . . ..
TA give indications . . . .3 day weekend - did he want to have sexual? no just the opposite - he told me he didn't
wind up having a sexual encounter? he joked about me giving him oral sex . . . . but his ex girlfriend Deanna was there . . . . .he expressed Deanna would be jeaous? no
Misgivings about 2 of you . . . felt he needed to warn me . . ..
Recess @ this time
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She went to another Mormons house after murdering TA.. I think she may have particularly enjoyed seemingly devout religious men who seemed like even more of a "prize" to be won, by trumping their holy practices with lustful seduction... to be so irresistible, to come before someone's God (seemingly), and to simultaneously tarnish one's sacred promises seems like the ultimate pay off for someone with the depravity and narcissism of JA...
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I dont know Nursie but this without a doubt is the most boring testimony I have had to endure. Ugggh please let the direct be over today.
IMO
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I feel very dirty after listening to that batch of lies.
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I'm just joining this afternoon. I scanned 30 pages, but can't find anything horrible (again). Did she describe a rape or anal rape or is she still whining that she felt unsatisfied (after voluntarily participating in sex)? tia
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But JA said he knew what he was doing in that area....just sayin
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So, what delicacy does Jodi get to enjoy for lunch? Think it could be a steak from Sizzler or a BLT from the truck stop?
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I think it is the defense plan that they drag it out to take the whole day today so that all the jury has to think about over the long weekend is how poor JA was abused and raped by that horrible man she just "had" to murder.
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