Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Kensie]

The truth about Travis Alexander according to Jodi Arias is as far from the truth as it can possibly get.:furious:

She wasnt ashamed of what she did in order to prey on the man she wanted and she darn sure wasnt abused. I cant believe that some people really seem to fall for Arias' concocted bs when she is already known as a pathological liar. I guess it just shows a sociopath can fool some people. That is a scary thought but I wouldnt believe her if she told me today is Sunday.

Travis is no different than any other person in a violent situation that thought they could handle a violent abuser and found out they were mistaken. The graveyards are filled with victims who thought they would be able to take care of it themselves. He already knew she could be violent slashing three sets of tires and sending a threatening email. Victims will appease their frightening abuser for they know what happens when they dont.

If she had just left him the h*ll alone he would have gone on with his life without her in it. She was having none of it. Imo she called him to do the sex talk. He had no clue that evil woman was recording them. Over and over again invading his privacy. No darn wonder he got sick and tired of it and let her have it. If I had been him I would have called her far worse names than he did. He had had enough of her psychotic ways.

She had nothing to offer Travis (nada) that he had never had before except the kinky sex she introduced him to but even that grew old. The baggage she brought along with it was no longer worth the titilating sex she so freely offered up.

It isnt Jodi that changed when she met Travis. It was Travis Alexander that changed and he didnt like the change in him and was trying to get away from her clutches.

I thought I couldnt detest anyone more than Casey Anthony but I was wrong. That was before I knew what a wretched creature Jodi Arias is. I hope she gets death. She is one of the most evil diabolical murderers I have ever seen.:furious:

She didnt constent to anything..this was her little bag of tricks she played on Travis.......she was the aggressor just like the spider who catches the fly in its web and watches as it struggles to free itself and waits until she kills it and devoures it.

JMO

Wow, I was I could write like you. I agree 120 percent with you.

 

[BritsKate]

One other question for all you long-timers. Was PPL the ONLY income Travis had? Did he have any other kind of job? How much money did he earn annually?

I ask because it seems like he would want an income more secure than pyramid style selling if he really wanted to get married. Did he have a college degree?

Yes.
Not to my knowledge. He was writing a book though.
Income listed on Myspace $100-150k. (I seem to remember seeing $10k a month elsewhere so that would be consistent.)
And no. No college.

FWIW in testimony it's been alluded to that Travis was having financial problems. This really hasn't been explained to my satisfaction. If it was true, for how long, how deeply in debt was he, how much could be attributed to Jodi's incessant neediness, etc.

 

[paperwing]

IMO if it weren't for the camera pics....she'd be a free woman. No 12 jurors would have ever believed she did that or could do it alone. Her ninja tale would have worked.


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- Even with her excellent-stealth-mode road trip, the stolen .25?

- The first lie to Det. Flores that she was no where near Mesa?

- That would have been followed up on - especially since she was named specifically in the initial 911 call...

- Upon discovery of her hair with root bulb and hand print with her blood and Travis' mixed?

- Upon learning that she vaporized for roughly, what, 15-18 hours... leading him to her destination and Mr. Burns - who would talk about her bandages, long sleeves, the Margarita/broken glass lie, the pull over/upside down tags on what make/model car? What tag number (if recorded)...

- Which would lead him to Arias to inquire about the car if the cop didn't write down her information just gave a verbal warning,

- Which would lead to the rental agent 1.5 hours north of her residence, who would pull up the invoice, the huge miles racked up, the fact that she wanted a 'quiet' colored car, and said he was only driving around locally, the stains, the missing floor mats, the 3 hours late...
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...I could go on but we all know how it plays out.

I don't think the photos were necessary at all. They're incredible to have - has there ever been a case anyone can think of where the killer accidentally took photos while committing the murder? It's amazing and rather clinches the deal for conviction (I hope) but there is so much evidence against her - it's just icing on the cake...
imv

 

[katiecoolady]

I'm not home and haven't ever listened to the radio show. Are these archived?

 

[4Jacy]

You don't think that this was KY that was there from before she moved back to Yreka in April ?

She wouldn't have left it there for anyone else to use. Throwing up now, thank you!!

 

[Boodles]

:truce:

I was just looking at the photos again. Does anyone know how the photo of Jodi's pant leg and shoe could have been taken? I can't think of any way to contort my body to take a side view photo of my leg and shoe from floor level. Did the defense ask this at the trial? I haven't watched any of the trial except what I've seen on NG.

If I were Jodi, I may have gone with "someone was there with me and that person did it, but I can't name that person" - based on that photo.

I did a little reenactment of this. I put the camera on the floor with the timer on. I used a ball for the head and a dog toy for the foot.

The only way I could get my leg and foot in the same position, was for the camera to be ~2 feet directly behind me with me leaning forward with the top of my body over the ball/head. In other words, my leg wouldn't be straight like in the photo if I was tilted back in the least. I think her upper body was directly OVER Travis' head, having just cut him, or preparing to.

As for how the camera went off, it was upside down, and somehow it must have been bumped, pushing down the shutter button in the process.

 

[Madeleine74]

Speaking of psycho people in the state of Arizona--

When I was in college at ASU (yes, that's Arizona State Univ, same school JUAN MARTINEZ my pretend prosecutor boyfriend went to, though he was in law school at that point), I had one date with this guy. It was an okay sort of date--I wasn't into him at all as I was head over heels over someone else who "just wasn't that into me." (heavy dramatic sigh....). Anyway, when date guy dropped me off at my apt door he gave me this long searching look and a kiss goodnight and that was that. I had no intentions of going out anymore with the guy because my heart was elsewhere.

Fast forward several days, it was spring break, about 9am, and I had stayed in AZ. My phone rang. I answer the phone and it's the guy I had the date with a few days before. He had a distinctive deep (radio type) voice, so I knew it was him. Anyway, he sounded either like he was laughing or crying. Then he proceeded to tell me he tried to kill himself the night before and he felt soooo guilty....guilty because he was having erotic dreams about me and was in love with me and couldn't get me out of his mind, blah, blah, blah, more weirdness. He referenced the 'look' he had given me when he brought me home.

< queue music from psycho >

I was all of 19 yrs old, I had no clue how to handle this, did not have the quick/sharp wit and tongue I have now, and I couldn't get off the phone fast enough. I was so scared this dude was going to come to see me. I avoided the phone for the next couple of weeks. This is long before cell phones, and even before answering machines.

About another year or so later I was at a big party and I saw him there. He didn't recognize me! I was so tempted to go up to him and say, "sooo I see you didn't kill yourself...." but I resisted.

Had I known Mr. Juan was nearby I would have run to him for protection! :heartbeat: :heartbeat:

 

[moonbird]

You don't think that this was KY that was there from before she moved back to Yreka in April ?

there, as in, already at Travis'? no.. i do not think it was there already. i think she brought it.. who knows when that bottle was purchased - could be brand new, could be one they'd been using all along. it's clear she took it with her when she left (since it was NOT collected into states evidence) which leads me to believe it was hers, part of her bag-o-tricks, and going to be taken with her when she left.
why bring the KY into the house, and not leave it in the rental car? i believe that she thought there was a very high likelihood that they would be having sex, one.last.time.

 

[Morning Glory]

BBM

Just look at popular music. We would never sing along to songs about men killing or abusing women, but look at the popularity of Carrie Underwood's "Before he Cheats" or Miranda Lambert's "Gunpowder and Lead." Violent women get a pass, because "he probably deserved it." It is firmly engrained in our society, and it needs to change.

Right, and the stereotype that women are always motivated by love, which is "acceptable" and empathized with. If a woman consents to or offers sex outside of a relationship to try and coax a man into one, it's not manipulation, it's love. If a man takes advantage of said freely-offered sex, he's a user, jerk, et cetera.

 

[SusieD]

:what:

I saw the KY on the bed but I must have missed that she bought it for this trip. Is it in the receipts ? She brought KY with her on this trip ? Maybe she had special plans for Ryan.

I remain convinced that she left Yreka planning to kill Travis and that she never planned to be at his house so long.

The thing Jodi didn't figure into her plans was sleep. I think she had been on the road some 20 hours before she got to TA's. That's why she was at the house that long, she was exhausted.

She still had 11 hours to go to get to Ryan's after the murder. Of course she was fueled by murdurous adrenaline for that leg.

 

[thefragile7393]

I'm not home and haven't ever listened to the radio show. Are these archived?

Yes, at blogtalkradio.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I've been watching everyday but I guess I somehow missed the testimony about "3 hole wonder." Does anybody know when that was?

 

[Xavier]

Yes.
Not to my knowledge. He was writing a book though.
Income listed on Myspace $100-150k. (I seem to remember seeing $10k a month elsewhere so that would be consistent.)
And no. No college.

FWIW in testimony it's been alluded to that Travis was having financial problems. This really hasn't been explained to my satisfaction. If it was true, for how long, how deeply in debt was he, how much could be attributed to Jodi's incessant neediness, etc.

If TA had financial issues, then how could he afford to pay Mimi and his way for the upcoming trip?

TA's roommate Zack never said anything yet about financial issues...you'd think that would've been possibly brought up?

 

[Pink Panther]

So........ I re-watched the interview again from trial date 8. What really struck me is that Jodi was asked at least 4 times if Travis knew she was coming and she never answered the question as far as I could tell.
1. So, did he know you were coming? JA went on about talking to Ryan, blah, blah, blah.
2. Why did you go the other way, why did you go and see Travis, did he know you were coming? Very long pause and only answered "This is hard."
3. Did you talk enroute to Pheonix? Yes, briefly, but my battery was dying, blah, blah, blah, I love to take pictures and delete them, blah, blah.... I was talking to see John Dixon, maybe going to see him in SanDiego.
4. So, did he know you were coming? Long pause - change subject, started asking about her family.

Am I nuts or didn't she talk on the stand about her conversation and Travis begged her to come see him why she was driving?

She played a different tune on her 48 hours spotlight. She was quite clear there that they had talked on route and that they had agreed that she would "swing by" on her way...

 

[moonbird]

If TA had financial issues, then how could he afford to pay Mimi and his way for the upcoming trip?

TA's roommate Zack never said anything yet about financial issues...you'd think that would've been possibly brought up?

Travis won the trip to Cancun, +1, through PPL

 

[BritsKate]

If TA had financial issues, then how could he afford to pay Mimi and his way for the upcoming trip?

TA's roommate Zack never said anything yet about financial issues...you'd think that would've been possibly brought up?

Indeed, hence not described to my satisfaction. IIRC a couple of people were asked about it - Mimi and Lisa, maybe? I'm not sure. I believe Zach and Enrique must have covered quite a bit of the mortgage with rent too. No great detail has ever been provided...gotta say, one doesn't have to stretch far to presume Travis was a lot more financially solvent than Jodi though. I've wondered if mentioning Jodi lending Travis money isn't some inane attempt at showing evidence of financial abuse consistent with domestic violence. I don't know why else they would pursue it.

It's my understanding though the trip to Cancun was covered by PPL.

 

[bobloblaw]

I hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if the defense tried to use this as evidence of abuse, hair pulling.

Ya, I think you nailed it! Good one.

 

[Pink Panther]

:what:

The thing Jodi didn't figure into her plans was sleep. I think she had been on the road some 20 hours before she got to TA's. That's why she was at the house that long, she was exhausted.

She still had 11 hours to go to get to Ryan's after the murder. Of course she was fueled by murdurous adrenaline for that leg.

I'm not sure about anyone else here who may have encountered a psychopath but the one I had the misfortune of knowing required very, very little sleep. And when he did want to sleep, he fell asleep as soon as his head hit the pillow. He also woke up immediately when his alarm went off. (Often without.) For years and years.

moo

 

[MaryAnn]

i agree, they seem to be hoping 1 juror will sympathize , much like betty broderick's 1st trial, which ended up hung jury, smearing the dead victim and feeling sorry for betty ,, however, i see no abuse in this case, so how could even 1 juror be swayed into feeling sorry for her?[/QUOTE]

BBM
I agree but did you see the guy that's supposedly just concerned because he had a sister that was abused and he's taking it upon himself to cheer her up by visiting her weekly. He doesn't know her from atom. He was on JVM or NG, but it takes only one.

I'm convinced she won't get death, but at least hoping for LWOP.

As far as I'm concerned she should have left him if she didn't like how he was treating her. PERIOD!! She's a murderer!!

 

[Truth Detector]

I've been watching everyday but I guess I somehow missed the testimony about "3 hole wonder." Does anybody know when that was?

It has been referred to by Kirk Nurmi multiple times throughout JA's testimony.

When I say multiple, I mean at least a half-dozen or so by now.

Usually he's asking her if other men have referred to her that way, or something like "Was that the time Travis called you a..." or "Did you like it when Travis called you a...", or "How did it make you feel when Travis called you a..." etc.