Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree with you also. For God's sake, he was a man! He could have stopped all of this if he had WANTED to. When someone slashes your tires (twice) and crawles through your friggin' doggie door, and drives all over the country to be with you, you are either on an ego trip, stupid or wanting the sex!
Just to make sure everyone understands, I believe what JA did was beyond horrible. She deserves the death penalty!!
I'm a little confused. With one clarification, I don't see how anything in my post contradicts what you have said here.
He was an adult. He did have a choice. I think he wanted sex. Perhaps his ego was stroked by having a girl chase him for sex and stalk him. I think he had horribly poor judgment in engaging a crazy stalker in any way. It was a dangerous and ignorant thing to do. I have said that.
People make horrible choices every day. But his horrible choices do not make him less of a victim. And I think a person can engage an abuser and still be abused.
Travis had a choice as to the sex and engaging Arias. But he was still manipulated and abused by her whether he understood that or not. Being manipulated doesn't mean the person lacks choice. It means their weaknesses are exploited to get them to do something for another's benefit.
Here's the clarification though. He could not have stopped the stalking. He could have tried to better protect himself but ignoring a stalker, getting a restraining order and calling the police are often the last things the victims will ever do.
Responses in blue...
Yes, she did. And the circumstances, I assume, are what could possibly mitigate the death sentence. Again, I haven't heard her version of the circumstances yet, but what has been seen so far is not a good sign for her defense.
I am not saying she "done no wrong". She murdered him, no question. I am saying let's not raise TA up on a pedestal of "man of the year" to be worshiped and portrayed as a sexual victim of a woman who controlled him.
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Who is saying he should be worshipped? He's a victim and we celebrate his life. If you don't like that, that's okay, but this is a victim friendly forum. Pretty much everyone has said he was imperfect. But it does seem he was a basically good guy.
And I do indeed feel he was a sexual victim. Even if he enjoyed the sex. Because to him it was just physical pleasure. But IMO, for Arias, it was part of the path to domination and control and eventual destruction. Do you not realize that she promised or inferred sex to him as a way of being invited into the house so she could murder him?
Finally, I keep seeing posters insist that bashing this dead guys character is somehow relevant to a defense of murder. It's not. Unless it is evidence that he battered her or threatened her, it is simply not relevant to any defense.
I think, despite protests to the contrary, that the purpose repeatedly of accusing those who view the victim as a victim and as a basically good person as putting him on a pedestal and worshipping him, is to blame him for his own death and to insinuate that he asked for it. The best analogy I have seen was on here by a person who stated its analogous to pointing out the short skirt worn by the rape victim.
I totally agree with that analogy and I think it's horrible, frankly.
