Jodi Arias Trial Watchers Thread #1

[mrsu]

If you haven't seen these images, I would recommend checking them out here. They are the crime scene photos, but no images of Travis. Shows removed carpet, removed parts of wall, bedroom, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.408333299242818.95565.160510210691796&type=1

 

[gitana1]

Beyond how horrifyingly scary and evil she is through-out the relationship with Travis Alexander. I am just blown away by the fact that she held onto that camera and continued to take pictures during this drawn out, disgusting and truly over kill attack! And yes, I think she purposely held on to it for the very reason that he would know she was taking pictures of him while she killed him, no doubt in my mind!

Looking at TA's hmm my space? I think, I got the impression that he is a bit arrogant but not in a bad way. I wondered if some of what he said on there was really true. Between ms and his blog..wow, what a positive, uplifting, good person he seemed to be. He seemed to have a lot to offer to his friends, family, the world and eventually a lucky woman and future children. Such a true loss!

ETA
http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander



Are the first two true? I don't know. His hang-up on *advertiser censored* tells me that he is one- a virgin, but we knew/were told that and two- that I do not in any way think he initiated any nasty sex talk with her such as the emails, texts and phone. I think it all started with her because she seduced him and she knew that is what men like to hear and she wanted to be everything to him. (not all just saying)

I think he's joking around. Clearly he never won the Nobel Peace prize and I'm sure the headlines would read "GQ Model Murder" if he had ever graced the pages of that magazine!

I wonder why she apparently tried cleaning up some stuff but not others? I mean, she put stuff in the wash (maybe to get rid of evidence) and she obviously mopped up some blood with that towel. But she didn't bother cleaning anything else as evidenced by the incredibly bloody scene. (I read that she 'cleaned' off his body but I don't know if that's true.) So why bother at all?

She was only concerned with getting rid of traces of herself, not of the murder itself. Since she left his body there, she knew he would be found so it would be useless to try to erase all proof he had been killed.

http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander

Travis knew Jodie would be looking over his Myspace/other sites. To me this statement serves a purpose, it is directly aimed at Jodie. The use of the word *advertiser censored*, exact same word used in an email. Wonder if Jodie ever used a webcam?

Also people here who are posting here that Jodie manipulated Travis through sex are insulting to Travis, almost like they are implying that he could not think for himself.

Travis was a thinker and fully capable of making decisions, so what he took a snipe at an ex on social media.

I have said in the past, Travis enjoyed Jodie's company, If not he would have ushered her out or not even allowed her to remain. Clock on the wall says that's about all To imply Travis was a puppet tied around Jodie's finger is insulting to Travis

No one is implying that Travis couldn't think for himself. I think it is insulting to blame the victim. I think it is insulting to claim that a psychopath could be fooled, used or taken advantage of. I think it is insulting to assume we know more than the people who were actually there, witnessing this "relationship".

Have you read what they have described? They described a sinister stalker who creeped everyone out and who Travis wanted to keep away from but who, due to her sexual persistence, and his sex drive, Travis failed to say no to even when he knew he should. "Dildo with a heartbeat" are his words, not mine.

From the article:

Hall testified that Alexander told her that he had had his tires slashed several times, had been sent threatening emails, followed on dates with other women, had his bank accounts broken into, and that Arias snuck through his doggy door and slept on his couch at night. None of these alleged incidents were reported to the police.

I can't believe how psycho she is! That is nuts. IMO

Come on! (sarcasm alert) Didn't you know this is just the response of an angry person to being used? I mean, yeah, it's a little over the top but they BOTH had their problems!

Oh, except Travis did nothing like this. And he never viciously murdered anyone either. Hmmm.

 

[mrsu]

Wound diagrams from http://www.hlntv.com

Anyone good at transcribing these things?

 

[manzana]

If you haven't seen these images, I would recommend checking them out here. They are the crime scene photos, but no images of Travis. Shows removed carpet, removed parts of wall, bedroom, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.408333299242818.95565.160510210691796&type=1

Some things clearly do not add up, many of his friends are estimating between 1-2 hours clean up time. Clearly his closet was neat to perfection....perhaps Jodie was responsible since she was hired for cleaning? However parts look like there was no attempt to clean at all like the sink.

 

[mrsu]

Based on the first photo below from: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...99242818.95565.160510210691796&type=3&theater

The second photo (accidentally snapped during the struggle) from www.hlntv.com appears to be taken right outside of the shower. You can see the angled wall, white door frame, the open glass shower door. And I believe the ceiling light is the one right above the shower.

I think the last photo of Travis sitting in the shower was taken thru the glass shower door.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Can anyone tell me what that is lying on the ground several feet away from the blood soaked carpet? It looks like a tie back that is used on curtains or some other soft rope material?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/03/jodi-arias-murder-trial-gruesome-crime-scene-pics

it is showing @1:37

Several posts have shown Travis close up in the shower right before he was attacked. There looks like there are two spots behind TA's right ear. One at the top and one towards the bottom on the tiles behind his right ear. Is that blood or droplets of water that look very dark for some reason?

 

[HarvestMoon]

The crime scene photos and 911 call, etc. are at his FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis

Okay, from reading on the Facebook site: Jody had a boyfriend who she was with for 4 years. Apparently they bought a house together, and he had a young son. Wonder what this guy has to say about her ?

 

[Melanie]

Just in case anyone missed it:


The trial will not be in session on Friday or Monday. The trial will resume on Tuesday.

 

[mrsu]

Can anyone tell me what that is lying on the ground several feet away from the blood soaked carpet? It looks like a tie back that is used on curtains or some other soft rope material?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/03/jodi-arias-murder-trial-gruesome-crime-scene-pics

it is showing @1:37

Several posts have shown Travis close up in the shower right before he was attacked. There looks like there are two spots behind TA's right ear. One at the top and one towards the bottom on the tiles behind his right ear. Is that blood or droplets of water that look very dark for some reason?

They are water droplets and the dark area is from the shadow of the camera flash.

 

[Melanie]

Can anyone tell me what that is lying on the ground several feet away from the blood soaked carpet? It looks like a tie back that is used on curtains or some other soft rope material?

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/03/jodi-arias-murder-trial-gruesome-crime-scene-pics

it is showing @1:37

Several posts have shown Travis close up in the shower right before he was attacked. There looks like there are two spots behind TA's right ear. One at the top and one towards the bottom on the tiles behind his right ear. Is that blood or droplets of water that look very dark for some reason?

Are you talking about this photo? Yes, it looks like some kind of black roping IMHO.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I know that defense attorney thinks the million dollar question is what drove Jodi to have to defend herself to such a degree. I give any explanation from Jodi about that two bucks because it will be a big, fat lie with a sprinkling of smoke and mirrors (aka further defaming the dead victim).

Nah, for me the million dollar question is will Jodi Arias testify on her own behalf?

I imagine JA would be pushing hard to take the stand, thinking her intelligence and charm would turn everyone within earshot of her to be smitten and demand her freedom immediately! I feel for her attorneys.

I hope she takes the stand.

 

[popsicle]

Are you talking about this photo? Yes, it looks like some kind of black roping IMHO.

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those are his sandals

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just in case anyone missed it:


The trial will not be in session on Friday or Monday. The trial will resume on Tuesday.

:seeya: Thank You ... I have been trying to find a "live feed" and could not find anything ...

Next time, I will come here to WS first to see what's going on before I "waste time" looking ... lol !

:seeya:

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

They are water droplets and the dark area is from the shadow of the camera flash.

Thought that may be water droplets, thanks.

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/03/jodi-arias-murder-trial-gruesome-crime-scene-pics

start at @1:27. What I am asking about isn't the dark blur shown at @1:30. I am asking about the item in front of the master closet on the ground at 1:27. It looks like a coil of some soft material rope or a flip flop with the same material next to it?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just out of curiosity, and for the sake of conversation since we don't have court until Tuesday, is there anyone here who believes she did this in self defense? I don't mean do you think she might get off because the jury will buy her story, but does anyone truly believe she did this because TA abused her?

:seeya:

BBM: :nono: Nope :nono: ...

She is one cold, calculated killer ... this was pre-meditated murder, IMO ...

I watched a portion of the trial yesterday, and she gives me the "willies" ... just like CA ! They both think they are "something" but the ONLY thing they both are are cold-blooded murderesses ... MOO!

:moo:

 

[Chanler]

Several thoughts, delivered almost randomly:

Travis' derogatory remarks about Jodi display stupid jealousy and emotional pain, not dominance. His statement that she regarded him as nothing more than a dildo with a heartbeat is a statement of weakness and hurt. To me, this sounds like the volatile exchanges in the midst of a breakup.

I am still not convinced that the gun was not the first weapon used. The murder scene was bloody and messy, and things were moved during the dragging and cleanup. A few months ago, my brother-in-law had a very severe bleeding incident (he's still in the hospital). I haven't seen the house, but my sister told me that the blood flowed and dripped in very unexpected ways. (The police who arrived with the EMS crew told her that it looked like a homicide scene.)

My thoughts about the gun are influenced by what seems to have been Jodi's planning. To murder her much larger victim, a gun makes much more sense than a knife. All that said, we will probably never know.

 

[MsCharlieChan]

Agree,.
I haven't followed as closely and avidly as most of you, but I believe they were working off of each other's psychological needs. Jody WAS using her sexuality to "snag" Travis....and she wanted that relationship as a long term thing. So much so she converts to his religion. Travis knew all of that, imo, yet continued to use her for the sex...tho he had even told her he wasn't serious, broke up and started dating other women. She hung on....he didn't end it..so she kept thinking there was chance. You walk away.....very far away. It was obvious to him she had some serious issues, yet he still allowed her in his presence.

I so agree! I suspect his narcissism was greater than hers, though. I believe he saw himself as incredibly successful and the ultimate catch for some lucky woman. I've known arrogant charmers like him. They "joke" about how good looking they are. You often see these hams posed in picture after picture -- kind of like Travis...

Enter Jodi, the aspiring photographer, with the camera...

Something tells me that in Jodi's mind, it was her evil little joke to take FINAL pictures of Mr. Pretty Boy. Like, he always just loved when she took photos of "His Highness," so why aren't you smiling now, sexy-pants??

As a hobby photographer myself, I just don't understand her thinking about leaving the camera behind. We photographers love the pictures we snap so much, I'd think a first (crazy) impulse of Jodi's would be to secretly have these "works of art" in her possession.

But smartly, she didn't try to hold onto these as twisted "keepsakes"... She did the ONLY thing that could be dumber: she left the camera behind!?!

If she was smart enough to take the GUN and bury it in the desert or whatever, why wouldn't she do the same with the camera?! This is one of the greatest mysteries of all time.

What would possess her to leave the camera behind? ... Did she subconsciously WANT to get caught?

If it weren't for leaving the camera behind, Jodi would have a chance of wrigglng out of this, just like Casey Anthony did.

 

[HarvestMoon]

I know that defense attorney thinks the million dollar question is what drove Jodi to have to defend herself to such a degree. I give any explanation from Jodi about that two bucks because it will be a big, fat lie with a sprinkling of smoke and mirrors (aka further defaming the dead victim).

Nah, for me the million dollar question is will Jodi Arias testify on her own behalf?

I imagine JA would be pushing hard to take the stand, thinking her intelligence and charm would turn everyone within earshot of her to be smitten and demand her freedom immediately! I feel for her attorneys.

I hope she takes the stand.

Will not take the stand. They never do.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Ahhhhh flip flops thank you.

I'm grasping at anything that would show a tied up defenseless Travis because that would be so much easier to believe that a adrenaline packing, first stab wound to the heart JA.

I saw in the autopsy that Travis's hand had two defense wounds. None on either of his arms. I assume he was too weak to put up much resistance.

Correct me but LE says that Travis was at the sink coughing up blood. That only happens if stabbed in the heart, lungs or mouth. If you are cut ear to ear with the carotid artery opened all blood spills out of this wound, not from the mouth. Correct?

So she gets that one awful stab wound to the heart while he is in the shower and he stumbles out of the shower over to the sink where she goes ape$hit and stabs the hell out of his back, he crawls out to the hallway, she flips him over, cuts him from ear to ear, drags him back to the shower (making clean up easier for her with water) but the poor guy is still making funny noises so she shoots him in the head.

I don't care if he called her the names she claims he did. NO words will justify what happened to Travis Alexander.

 

[trigger]

I would really like to read those E-mails. talk about interesting.

I'm sure his friend Taylor Searle will tesify at the trial because Travis called him and told him that he just sent her a nasty email.

Here what his friend wrote...

There were several other similar incidents leading up to about a week prior to his death, when Travis caught Jodi hacking into his Facebook account, according to the police report. By this point, Travis had had enough and told her he wanted her out of his life.

“They had a chat where he tore her apart,” Searle says. “He called me the next morning and read to me what he said to her. I said, ‘Aren’t you afraid she’s going to hurt you?”

A week later, Travis Alexander was dead.
Read more

http://www.timespublications.com/aug10-feature1.asp