***Jury Recommends DEATH for Mark Sievers*** Penalty/Sentencing Phase

[Oregonmama]

He'll get LWOP. One appeal and done. Better for family of Theresa. And no DP activists to take his case.

And i don't think his family should see the girls as early on Bonnie was doing the sneaky stuff with them for Mark to get messages. If they still believe in his innocence, or that he was JUSTIFIED in doing it to 'protect the girls' , they will play that up to the girls AND talk bad about their mother.

Supervised visitations will probably happen re the paternal side. They have an outside agency that is facilitating things. IMO

 

[Gardenista]

He'll get LWOP. One appeal and done. Better for family of Theresa. And no DP activists to take his case.

And i don't think his family should see the girls as early on Bonnie was doing the sneaky stuff with them for Mark to get messages. If they still believe in his innocence, or that he was JUSTIFIED in doing it to 'protect the girls' , they will play that up to the girls AND talk bad about their mother.

I didn't know about the sneaky stuff she was doing to get them messages. Today makes much more sense after hearing that.

 

[Oregonmama]

I didn't know about the sneaky stuff she was doing to get them messages. Today makes much more sense after hearing that.

Mark was speaking German on the phone and writing letters in German to the girls. Bonnie's monitoring of the phone calls was taken away.

 

[BeachSky]

CTV reporter said there has been no letter submitted from Marks daughters.

 

[beach]

Well LWOP or DP are the only options available.

Correct. I can honestly say I don’t care. I want the jury to do whatever they are comfortable living with. I’ve been on a jury with high stakes so I totally understand the weight of making this decision. I predict it will be LWOP but who knows.

One reason it doesn’t matter to me is because to someone like Mark, LWOP is every bit as severe a punishment as death. This isn’t Jimmy Rodgers ( “in Missouri that’s 15-20 and I’m okay with that”). Prior to the guilty verdicts being read, Mark seriously thought he was headed home in a few days. He truly believed that. He thought that was going to be his last week he would be incarcerated. He appears to still be processing the permanence & gravity of his situation.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Well LWOP or DP are the only options available.

Thank you for the correction ... I thought I read somewhere up thread there was a possibility of LWP ? which I thought did not make sense - but this is in Florida.

 

[Scalex]

Correct. I can honestly say I don’t care. I want the jury to do whatever they are comfortable living with. I’ve been on a jury with high stakes so I totally understand the weight of making this decision. I predict it will be LWOP but who knows.

One reason it doesn’t matter to me is because to someone like Mark, LWOP is every bit as severe a punishment as death. This isn’t Jimmy Rodgers ( “in Missouri that’s 15-20 and I’m okay with that”). Prior to the guilty verdicts being read, Mark seriously thought he was headed home in a few days. He truly believed that. He thought that was going to be his last week he would be incarcerated. He appears to still be processing the permanence & gravity of his situation.

I agree. Vinnie Politan kept arguing with lawyers on CTV saying that the jury isn’t responsible for his death, they are just following the law, so they shouldn’t feel responsible for any of it. But I do think regardless some of them will still carry a burden of their decision with them, no matter what.

 

[msboo]

I’m for the DP, would be a real ‘psychological SLAP’ in the face for him. BUT considering how long he’d sit on DR with appeals, possible activist groups speaking up for him, not to mention a tasty last meal of his choice... LWOP seems to be a more miserable ongoing time among the general population perils he will face.

I liked what the state’s Hunter said about how Mark was “super dad” and would “do anything to protect his children”.... as I’m remembering Mark’s conversation with CWW about how the girls would be in danger if TS took the girls and left him. Yeah... MS sure would “do anything to protect his children”, even kill their mom if necessary.

 

[human]

That is good news that there is no letter from the daughters.

 

[Scalex]

Thank you for the correction ... I thought I read somewhere up thread there was a possibility of LWP ? which I thought did not make sense - but this is in Florida.

Probably if he had received a lesser included charge like 2nd degree murder, etc.

 

[human]

That is good news that there is no letter from the daughters.

 

[Brooke]

I hope they don’t go there. He lost custody of his girls for a good reason. He was denied jail visitation for good reason. His brother lost his petition for guardianship for good reason. The family court records concerning all those hearing are sealed but, suffice it to say, it would be the height of hypocrisy for him to attempt to paint himself as a good father.

Indeed.

A good father does not murder the mother of his children.

 

[TTF14]

I’m for the DP, would be a real ‘psychological SLAP’ in the face for him. BUT considering how long he’d sit on DR with appeals, possible activist groups speaking up for him, not to mention a tasty last meal of his choice... LWOP seems to be a more miserable ongoing time among the general population perils he will face.

I liked what the state’s Hunter said about how Mark was “super dad” and would “do anything to protect his children”.... as I’m remembering Mark’s conversation with CWW about how the girls would be in danger if TS took the girls and left him. Yeah... MS sure would “do anything to protect his children”, even kill their mom if necessary.

Yes, the psychological slap in the face is why I hope they come back with death. I think they will.

 

[Oregonmama]

Yes, the psychological slap in the face is why I hope they come back with death. I think they will.

I am hoping for that too

 

[MsJosie]

I don’t think the girls have had any visitation with dads family since he lost contact privileges. I remember way back the Judge halted calls and all visits because of coded words/letters, German spoken and written with the help of grandma. this was with an outside monitoring service. There might be monitored calls with MS mom again but she may have to apply etc since she violated the trust and rules earlier.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I find it very interesting that Marks father was a veternarian. Explains the plausibility of one of the tips in Ronnie Bolins disapearance.

Where can I find more information?

Here is the Link at WS:

MO - Ronnie A Bolin, 33, Jefferson County, 8 July 1996


I need to read this thread myself to see the connection between CWW and RB's disappearance.

Quick question?

Was MS living in Missouri at the time RB went "missing" ?

TIA

 

[katydid23]

Juror was googling jury rules. Came across a website with JRR on it. Closed webpage immediately.

I don't think jurors are supposed to google anything, until trial is over.

 

[Oregonmama]

Jake Allen‏Verified account @Jake_Allen19 9m9 minutes ago
We heard from one state witness and four defense witnesses in the penalty phase of the #SieversTrial today.

Both sides have rested and closing arguments will begin after lunch then jurors will be sent to deliberate.

#SieversTrial

 

[Oregonmama]

Jake Allen‏Verified account @Jake_Allen19 22s22 seconds ago
Court is back in session. The judge is going to walk through the jury instructions with the attorneys before the jury is brought back out.

 

[Oregonmama]

Jaclyn Bevis‏ @jbevis10 3m3 minutes ago


Both sides requested about 30-45 minutes for their closings. That'll begin after a brief break. (If you're following at home and have been for some time, you know our breaks are never that brief.) #trialtweets #TeresaSievers #MarkSieversPenaltyPhase #NBC2CourtCoverage