Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #27

[liltexans]

I would be medicated. And he’s been calm throughout. Might be his demeanor.

His early statements in this case did not seem calm to me. They came across as angry when he was telling the media that it wasn’t the right time to discuss any abuse Lucas suffered. IMO

 

[Charliegizmo49]

I don't even know how to word - but if they did find some indication in his lungs that he drown - would someone who vomited in their sleep and aspirated show up the same as water in the lungs? Also would it be possible for that evidence to still be there after 3 months?

No. Imo chemical analysis would reveal two entirely separate compounds. They are COMPLETING very complicated tests. There’s no confusion there.

SPELL CHECK.

 

[liltexans]

I didn't listen, but based on everyone's updates, I had the same thought. It's definitely not unusual for someone going through the trauma he's going through to be on some anti anxiety meds.

It’s not a judgment from @Tricia or me. It was just our speculation based on his demeanor and that he was speaking calmly. I agree that anti anxiety medication would be needed. I didn’t mean to imply that it would be a bad thing.

 

[papixee]

I am not sure what the hoopla is about the 10th or 11th, but perhaps there is evidence of an injury that occurred on that date that caused the eventual death. The neighbor saw him on the 11th, along with EG's sons. They indicated he was quiet and withdrawn. Perhaps something from the night before or early that day started his downward spiral. If that's the case, I am sickened even more.

 

[MissMalowe]

From the Nancy Grace Podcast:

Nancy: What do you make of claims of relatives that they had observed your son, Lucas, covered in bruises in the past?

Jonathan: I know of one instance that can be explained; the other ones I'm not too sure but I definitely understand their concern and I also would have that concern.

He articulates his thoughts/answers much better than I previously assumed he would, HOWEVER, does he mean that he NOW understands their concerns because he definitely did not seem to before Lucas's death. In fact, it created a wedge previously. Emily and he were upset with family members and threatened that they would no longer be allowed to see Lucas due to their reporting those concerns to DCF and authorities, correct?

Exclusive: Lucas Hernandez’s father speaks out, no longer supports or believes former girlfriend, Emily Glass

 

[WildcatRunner]

It’s not a judgment from @Tricia or me. It was just our speculation based on his demeanor and that he was speaking calmly. I agree that anti anxiety medication would be needed. I didn’t mean to imply that it would be a bad thing.

My apologies, I wasn't implying you were making a judgment. I was just agreeing with you that it would make sense.

 

[liltexans]

My apologies, I wasn't implying you were making a judgment. I was just agreeing with you that it would make sense.

Don’t apologize! Your post made me realize that I probably didn’t clarify my thoughts very well.

 

[Steelslady]

Riiiiiiight.

So what did he think she was smoking in that bowl of hers- parsley?

 

[WildcatRunner]

I am not sure what the hoopla is about the 10th or 11th, but perhaps there is evidence of an injury that occurred on that date that caused the eventual death. The neighbor saw him on the 11th, along with EG's sons. They indicated he was quiet and withdrawn. Perhaps something from the night before or early that day started his downward spiral. If that's the case, I am sickened even more.

I had a similar thought. We know (with certainty, I'd say) that he could not have passed away on the 10th or the 11th. Perhaps NG just didn't word things correctly to state that something happened to him on the 10th or 11th that led to him passing away. Even then, I still wonder where the info would come from...unless EG admitted to hurting him on that date, I would think it'd would be pretty hard to pinpoint the date of an injury to a living being, a week before death, that was then ALSO left outside for 3 months.
It will be interesting to see what comes from this info, and the accuracy.

 

[PetDetective]

Somebody, please help me. Give me a clue what page to begin the horror movie. I’m really shaking a little bit. I’m afraid to know.

I left off on page 27 I believe. That was last night...

 

[Deleted member 221026]

Okay. Downed that one dry and most of the way on my second. I’m ready to get comfy and begin the show:
“Nightmare on South Edgemoor”

 

[Steelslady]

Or on a hard surface like beat his head into the toilet seat.

Or the bathtub or sink.

 

[liltexans]

So what did he think she was smoking in that bowl of hers- parsley?

I get the feeling he is claiming that he didn’t know she was doing drugs at all. He mentioned a few times that he was away from home a lot for work.

 

[Busylady]

NG asked him about the abuse claims family made and he says one could be explained but the not sure about the other - he understands their concern and he would of been concerned as well. WHAT - you were not concerned then you kept him from the people who reported the abuse.

 

[Steelslady]

Yes!

Wow- many of us said we thought it happened earlier than Friday night or Saturday morning! I was convinced of it and honestly have had an awful time believing it occurred Friday night or early Saturday morning. I wonder about this now........

So, if this is true

What? I thought the LL saw him on the 16th, JH spoke with him on the 15th.

So did Jonathan lie about the Facetime on the 15th and the land lord had the wrong day he saw Lucas? What on earth?

 

[Charliegizmo49]

So what did he think she was smoking in that bowl of hers- parsley?

Maybe she traded herself for meth. She didn’t invite random people there while JH was home. Meth addicts have a way of truly hiding their use. And it’s seriouswhen it’s exposed.

 

[liltexans]

NG asked him about the abuse claims family made and he says one could be explained but the not sure about the other - he understands their concern and he would of been concerned as well. WHAT - you were not concerned then you kept him from the people who reported the abuse.

Yes, there seems to be some revisionist history with some of JH’s new statements.

 

[flute4peace]

NG asked him about the abuse claims family made and he says one could be explained but the not sure about the other - he understands their concern and he would of been concerned as well. WHAT - you were not concerned then you kept him from the people who reported the abuse.

Right - "would have been"? As in now that he knows where bruises come from?

Ugh - never had a drink in my life but strongly considering hitting up Ima for some of hers.


Also - just listened to the WPD's 10am morning briefing, nothing there about Lucas.

 

[WildcatRunner]

So what did he think she was smoking in that bowl of hers- parsley?

This made me laugh. But, I expect he knew there was marijuana being smoked, but maybe not meth.

I had a roommate in college, who I considered a close friend, that was a meth user. She was pretty erratic at times, but I never equated it to hard drug use. It wasn't until some time later (at least a year) after we were no longer roommates, that I found out she was in rehab, and while her behavior did make some sense then, I was still shocked. Drug users can be pretty good at hiding it...especially if he only sees her 10 days a month.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Wow- many of us said we thought it happened earlier than Friday night or Saturday morning! I was convinced of it and honestly have had an awful time believing it occurred Friday night or early Saturday morning. I wonder about this now........

So, if this is true


So did Jonathan lie about the Facetime on the 15th and the land lord had the wrong day he saw Lucas? What on earth?

I don’t know anything that is reliable about FaceTime and date. As much as I thought he was dead before the 16th and said so. I’m going to wait for the best source that being evidence.